lotofwind said..
Had no choice, made the most of the situation.
Should I have sat at home all day complaining about it on forums?

kiterboy said..




But noone gave a crap about 'Protecting the vunerable TM' when they were dropping off to the tune of 4k a year in Aus, from the flu prior to 2020.

So why is it such a priority now that experimental treatments need to be mandated?

lotofwind said..
Had no choice, made the most of the situation.Should I have sat at home all day complaining about it on forums?

FormulaNova said..




No, I have no problem with you doing this. It is your health choice after all.

I guess the only problem I have with it is the logic. If it fails, how would you discern it from just random chance? If it works, how would you discern it from random chance?

If you were to have symptoms and they went away straight away, was it your treatment or the way your body would have reacted anyway? Worst, what if it somehow impaired your body's immune response? Not likely, but you would never be able to know.

That Doctor McCullough though went on about, waffled if you will, about these sorts of treatments, and then got Covid himself. I wonder what went wrong there?

Stick with the eye-of-newt. It has the runs on the board.

FormulaNova said..














No, I have no problem with you doing this. It is your health choice after all.

I guess the only problem I have with it is the logic. If it fails, how would you discern it from just random chance? If it works, how would you discern it from random chance?

If you were to have symptoms and they went away straight away, was it your treatment or the way your body would have reacted anyway? Worst, what if it somehow impaired your body's immune response? Not likely, but you would never be able to know.

That Doctor McCullough though went on about, waffled if you will, about these sorts of treatments, and then got Covid himself. I wonder what went wrong there?

Stick with the eye-of-newt. It has the runs on the board.

eppo said..







Honestly dude you must have a severely high opinion of yourself, plus an extreme bias when you listen. I've already once corrected you about Peter Ms podcast and I can't be bothered doing it again regarding your statement regarding iodine and him getting covid - "so what went wrong". If you listened with neutral ears you wouldn't have any basis to say this whatsoever. Completely unrelated.


we are all still running around with masks that have been disqualified as useful, been put in lockdowns, forced to take a vaccine that has no treatment trials nor fda approved - with total indemnity for big pharma - and you mention discerning random chance from diagnostic surety of taking iodine.

we are in one big fcking random experiment dude.


The entire shenanigans is just spinning the wheel and see what the hell happens - whilst the spin doctor narrators take everyone on a wild ride with it.


and your incessant disqualification of a good diet / healthy living as a means to bolster your natural immunity to fight covid and any infection for that matter is intuitively outrageous. Especially when one of the major co morbidity factors for those dying from covid is obesity. Which funny enough is the major factor for dying of most diseases.

eppo said..
Ah good on ya for listening. I encourage others to listen as well. He actually said omicron is far more infectious than delta but has far less consequences - not as destructive a delta. He thinks it could be an evolutionary mistake on behalf of the virus but time will tell. It seems we all listen (including me) with our own bias glasses and ears on.

all still running around with masks that have been disqualified as useful, been put in lockdowns, forced to take a vaccine that has no treatment trials nor fda approved - with total indemnity for big pharma - and you mention discerning random chance from diagnostic surety of taking iodine.
we are in one big fcking random experiment dude.


whiles I don't agree with any of the mitigation measures in place, it's a bridge too far to suggest it's a "random" experiment. There's some awesome minds working on this (admittedly most got it all wrong) , the vaccines do elicit antibodies, new variants just mean a further delayed immune response which has gotten so far it's almost worthless, I can't find a good paper on it but Quercetin (40mg in an onion; great source) homeostasis is suggested block virus cell entry and replication. The only reason to stick with the vax is it's too hard to get people to eat well (cue FN) . And the masks offer so little benefit that the benefit can't be proven outside a lab but that's not to say no benefit. And I can assure you that severe lockdowns can reduce transmission, they're just far too damaging to society to ever be worthwhile.
So there's some great science in it, just being very poorly applied by a bunch of numpties to serve the will of other inferior specimen.

evlPanda said..

Lockdowns were an attempt to slow the spread and especially the variations, dude.

The first wave of The Spanish Flu weren't so unusual and affected the old and/or the sick.

The second wave, and we still don't know why, affected mostly healthy people in their twenties.

"Unusually, the Spanish flu affected healthy young adults much more than its usual targets: children, the elderly or those with weakened immune systems." - www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/influenza-pandemic

It looks like the virus is mutating itself into weaker variations, like Omicron, so that's good. But while it's still living in everyone and partying and ****ing other diseases they have in them at the time we'll get variations. There'll be a a few more yet.

Also, not locking down doesn't work either; everyone gets sick. Even this week in Sydney plenty of shops have notices that they are shutting down simply because too many of their staff are too sick to work. Everyone remaining is overworked. After what, two weeks of this outbreak?

i.e. you'll be locked down anyway, and sick as a dog.

Personally I think NSW didn't lock down hard and fast enough. It seemed like everyone was screaming to do so. If we did when that last Delta outbreak started we could have locked down for a couple of weeks instead of what we had to in the end. Like, d'uh. The guv'ment sort of did a half-arsed job, and ended up in this odd, in-between place, where we locked down really ineffectually, for a very long time.

...

On a different, perhaps, happier note: Seems long term effects of COVID-19 include brain damage.

Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19
www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext

Especially in men:

Brain injury, endothelial injury and inflammatory markers are elevated and express sex-specific alterations after COVID-19
jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12974-021-02323-8

You lose your sense of taste and smell not because your nerves are ****ed up, but because your brain is. Just what we need; more dumberer people.

TonyAbbott said..
NSW numbers seem to have steadied a little for now

What will the peak numbers per day be for nsw?

airsail said..




People are giving up getting tested, so case numbers will drop, what's the point now. If you get tested and found to be positive you have to isolate for an extended period even if mild symptoms. If you found not isolating $5000 fine.
So, don't get tested and stay home until you feel better, just like a cold.

airsail said
People are giving up getting tested, so case numbers will drop, what's the point now. If you get tested and found to be positive you have to isolate for an extended period even if mild symptoms. If you found not isolating $5000 fine.
So, don't get tested and stay home until you feel better, just like a cold.

lotofwind said..
The only place people seem worried and talking about it now is the unvaxed few on here, I can understand your fear I guess

lotofwind said..
Well they are spending days and days searching for magic home remedies and researching youtube and twitter for help.
I dont think anyone would do that if they weren't worried.
If they weren't worried they would be out enjoying life, not talking about it non stop on the interwebs?

lotofwind said..
Oh sorry, must have been thinking of someone else, I thought it was you researching and experimenting with Iodine experiments to beat covid.
Couldnt be bothered going back pages to see who it was researching for home remedies, sorry for the mix up.

lotofwind said..
lol, so it was you that was worried about catching it and looking for cures.
You sound like you are fit so dont worry about researching cures and stressing about it, just carry on enjoying life. No covid in WA anyways.

Winds up, time to hit the water, see ya

Flying Dutchman said..



I'm not sure why doing a harmless Iodine remedy triggers you so much? You don't even know what's in the vaccines because the pharmaceuticals won't publish the ingredients but you're happy to inject it.

My health condition is excellent. When I go to the MDs and they do the blood tests they ask me what my diet is because all the parameters are perfect.

No smoking, no alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, 99% plant based diet, only drink water, coconut water and home made juices.

So I find some compelling evidence to show that a 1% Providone Iodine solution can help limit virus symptoms.

You should be encouraging people making such a commitment to health rather than ridiculing them.

Flying Dutchman said..



I'm not sure why doing a harmless Iodine remedy triggers you so much? You don't even know what's in the vaccines because the pharmaceuticals won't publish the ingredients but you're happy to inject it.

My health condition is excellent. When I go to the MDs and they do the blood tests they ask me what my diet is because all the parameters are perfect.

No smoking, no alcohol, no coffee, no drugs, 99% plant based diet, only drink water, coconut water and home made juices.

So I find some compelling evidence to show that a 1% Providone Iodine solution can help limit virus symptoms.

You should be encouraging people making such a commitment to health rather than ridiculing them.

lotofwind said..
Well they are spending days and days searching for magic home remedies and researching youtube and twitter for help.
I dont think anyone would do that if they weren't worried.
If they weren't worried they would be out enjoying life, not talking about it non stop on the interwebs?

Paradox said..












I have no problem with the initial efforts to reduce spread until we knew more and hospital capacity could be increased. As initially proposed to flatten the curve. What happened in Australia was most governments pursued a zero covid approach and did nothing to hospitals whatsoever. Qld is a great example of that, it's hospitals are in even worse condition than when covid started despite no cases.

It's the subsequent efforts to pursue zero covid through lockdowns (262 days of lockdowns in Melbourne) and the ongoing mandating of vaccines, masks and closure of schools with no real science behind it. The stats of places like Florida that did none of these things can't be argued with. They made no difference in the end.

nypost.com/2021/10/28/florida-gov-ron-desantis-has-shown-how-to-handle-covid-19/