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Carantoc said..

chrispy said..
We don't like is about 30 years too late ...took all you kooks to be convinced by peeps who are continually being debunked to finally believe we are being screwed lol

30 years ?

So prior to 30 years ago everything was dandy and the truth shone through but then 30 years ago something happened and it has been lies ever since ?

Mmmm intriguing. 30 years ago. 10th January 1992. So what happened ?

10th January 1992 - 8th Soap Opera Digest Awards - Days of our Lives wins best soap. Mmmm doubt that was the trigger of anything much.

Otherwise not so specific, lets just go 1992 in general :
Bill Clinton elected POTUS
Paul Simon tours South Africa
Cold War is officially declared over
Carter USM release the Love Album
Pakistan in the Cricket World Cup
Denmark win UEFA Euro 1992
CoE allows women to become priests
The EU is born
Windows 3.1 was released, supporting up to 16 colours
....

gonna have to give us some clues as to what happened....

I mean it can't have a been a general eroding of our freedoms around that time, 'cause that only started in 2021 when NZ banned cigarette advertising to 16 year olds.

Lol

You really are in a rabbit hole

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chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

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snoidberg said..
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**** like this is the new propaganda spouted by the evangical conspiracist ...and the kooks just deep throat it all

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chrispy said..

Harrow said..

chrispy said..
Censorship ? Of banning outright lies?

So we shouldn't have been told that the vaccine would stop the virus spreading? Is that your point?

The vaccine was to stop major disease and to slow the spread ...is that what you meant ?

No, my point is that there were statements made by government authorities that vaccination would prevent you from catching COVID. We now know that is clearly not the case and the messaging from the government has been altered accordingly.

So, the question now is what don't we know about the long term effects of mandated booster shots repeated at short intervals?

With the reported daily case numbers being in the tens of thousands, which means the actuals would be well in excess of 100,000 per day since many cases are either asymptomatic or unreported, the vaccination seems to be doing very little to stop the spread. Therefore, should people be forced to take it?

I agree with most of that .

Yet the Vax was mainly to stop severe disease ,just like the flu shot ...

to stop spreading it ,scientists said that it will minimise the spread

Nobody should be forced to take it,I have never said people should ...I have said people are idiots for believing debunked kooks over proper science though

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myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

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Flying Dutchman said..
Looks like the discussion is over. We are 30 years too late. Just get jabbed kooks.

The only kook is you with idiot reply .

Sad how you missed the rest of what I said and came up that crap

But that is the c nut narrative

I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

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TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job.

Lol, I read a lot ...says every ****

Gp are not allowed to give false advice

So you stick to your dishonest narrative

He says we should trust our doctors lol...but you have also said no doctors should be trusted

Nek minnut

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TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

.

If your GP was one of those people that believe that Ivermectin is the way to avoid Covid, and you believed them and took it, and still got Covid, and worse, got a severe case, would you be angry?

GPs are human and can get things wrong too. Do we leave it up to the individual GP to play with your life with their theories, or do we make them follow the established advice?

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myscreenname said..

TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

Wog

Funny, my grandmother used to use that word in the sense of a cold or flu. It turns out that it was common usage as well.

.. but we all know you are talking about Lex Marinos and all his mates.

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myscreenname said..

TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

Wog

Oi farken ...lol

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TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

This is absolutely accurate.
You ALL know that doctors have had their autonomy taken away from them in regards to the advice they can give in regards to the experimental jab.

They either fall in line with the 'established' advice, or lose their licence.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.

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chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

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kiterboy said..

TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

This is absolutely accurate.
You ALL know that doctors have had their autonomy taken away from them in regards to the advice they can give in regards to the experimental jab.

They either fall in line with the 'established' advice, or lose their licence.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.

This is correct.
Today the head of immunology told me he's unable to grant a permanent exemption to the vaccines even though my heart condition was caused by a vaccine (one would think that a contraindication or at least grounds for informed disconsent) and that the other two vaccines would likely exacerbate the injury. He assured me these mandates aren't helping.
The head of immunology is required to take his queues from one of McGowan's pen pushers. And with the inability to draw a full breath I'm required to ask permission to work to feed my kids.

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kiterboy said..

chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

Lies again ...

Astra started the with the intention of not making a profit ..but stick with your dishonest narrative lol

Or even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

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psychojoe said..

kiterboy said..

TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

This is absolutely accurate.
You ALL know that doctors have had their autonomy taken away from them in regards to the advice they can give in regards to the experimental jab.

They either fall in line with the 'established' advice, or lose their licence.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.

This is correct.
Today the head of immunology told me he's unable to grant a permanent exemption to the vaccines even though my heart condition was caused by a vaccine (one would think that a contraindication or at least grounds for informed disconsent) and that the other two vaccines would likely exacerbate the injury. He assured me these mandates aren't helping.
The head of immunology is required to take his queues from one of McGowan's pen pushers. And with the inability to draw a full breath I'm required to ask permission to work to feed my kids.

Bs

I asked my gp if I could get an exemption. He said I could do that if it was the correct thing to do

You kooks lie more than politicians

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psychojoe said..

Bs

I asked my gp if I could get an exemption. He said I could do that if it was the correct thing to do

You kooks lie more than politicians

Ok. I've got a GP appointment booked for the 20th but if yours knows something mine doesn't I'll gladly seek a second opinion. What's his number?

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chrispy said..

kiterboy said..

chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

Lies again ...

Astra started the with the intention of not making a profit ..but stick with your dishonest narrative lol

Or even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

So you disagree that corporations run smear campaigns against their competitors?

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chrispy said...
even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

Gee, that 'meme' was quite a while ago, yet seems to have really affected you.
Here bud, try calling these these guys, they should be able to help you www.lifeline.org.au/
Ph: 13 11 14

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chrispy said..

kiterboy said..

chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

Lies again ...

Astra started the with the intention of not making a profit ..but stick with your dishonest narrative lol

Or even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

No, no, no. You have got it wrong.

When important to the story someone is trying to tell, it was because there were blood clotting issues. (seemingly an issue with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is very similar to the AZ one). Remember 'vaccines are dangerous'.

But when it is required, the story is always going to be a conspiracy. Pfizer was clearly making up all that stuff to try and sell more of their vaccines... the same vaccines that they are flat out keeping up with supply.

If Astra Zenica was still being used commonly here, it would be an outrage, but if not, it would be a conspiracy. With logic like that, its easy being a conspiracy nut.

If I remember, the issues with AZ blood clotting were reported heavily in the media because that is all that our federal government had signed up to. They bet on one horse and ignored Pfizer. Moderna wasn't yet available either as far as I remember. Hence no reports at the time about Pfizer or Moderna issues.

Logic? No, it's more fun believing in conspiracies, and easier to tell with memes.

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psychojoe said..

kiterboy said..

TonyAbbott said..
I read a lot of people giving the advice to not trust what they read on the internet and if they are not sure about getting the vaccine they should speak to their gp.....

Gp's and all health professionals are not allowed to give any other advice other than pro-covid vaccine advise by order of the AMA with the threat of being de-registered by AHPRA.

Doctors have been banned from using their knowledge and experience to individualise their patients care in regards to covid. They can not offer any medications that may keep their patients out of hospital and alive. Even when those medications have zero side effects.

Covid vaccines may be good for many but there are many other treatments that are having reasonable results.

Considering how many vaccinated people are being hospitalised and dieing, it's time to try something else, it's time to free up the doctors to do their job. We have to be able to trust our doctors are giving us the best advice for us as individuals.

This is absolutely accurate.
You ALL know that doctors have had their autonomy taken away from them in regards to the advice they can give in regards to the experimental jab.

They either fall in line with the 'established' advice, or lose their licence.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.

This is correct.
Today the head of immunology told me he's unable to grant a permanent exemption to the vaccines even though my heart condition was caused by a vaccine (one would think that a contraindication or at least grounds for informed disconsent) and that the other two vaccines would likely exacerbate the injury. He assured me these mandates aren't helping.
The head of immunology is required to take his queues from one of McGowan's pen pushers. And with the inability to draw a full breath I'm required to ask permission to work to feed my kids.

I read some of what you write and assume that you work in some interesting function or role, but then you get 'cues' wrong and I change my mind.

I am still curious as to why you seemingly went on a trial for some vaccine when you seem to be so against all of the vaccines around.

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FormulaNova said..

chrispy said..

kiterboy said..

chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

Lies again ...

Astra started the with the intention of not making a profit ..but stick with your dishonest narrative lol

Or even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

No, no, no. You have got it wrong.

When important to the story someone is trying to tell, it was because there were blood clotting issues. (seemingly an issue with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is very similar to the AZ one). Remember 'vaccines are dangerous'.

But when it is required, the story is always going to be a conspiracy. Pfizer was clearly making up all that stuff to try and sell more of their vaccines... the same vaccines that they are flat out keeping up with supply.

If Astra Zenica was still being used commonly here, it would be an outrage, but if not, it would be a conspiracy. With logic like that, its easy being a conspiracy nut.

If I remember, the issues with AZ blood clotting were reported heavily in the media because that is all that our federal government had signed up to. They bet on one horse and ignored Pfizer. Moderna wasn't yet available either as far as I remember. Hence no reports at the time about Pfizer or Moderna issues.

Logic? No, it's more fun believing in conspiracies, and easier to tell with memes.

Yeah, good one. Create your own narrative to suit your small minded arguement.
Sure, there were no Pfizer related negative effects until AFTER the aus gov signed up with them.

There is no way Pfizer could have financally suppressed their own negative effects while having their competitor's highlighted in the media.

How did I go? Did I get it right according to your twisted view?

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FormulaNova said..
I am still curious as to why you seemingly went on a trial for some vaccine when you seem to be so against all of the vaccines around.

And there you go again getting it all wrong.

You very obviously don't know anything about the experimental jabs, as opposed to proven vaccine technologies.

It is impossible to get a medical exemption for any or all covid vaccines.

In the rare case someone could get an exemption for one vaccine, they would still be required to get one of the others.

I believed that natural immunity is not able to be recognised in Australia by Australian doctors. Though this Novak debacle highlighted a possibility to a 6 month exemption only for those rare people with serious covid problems. This would be a one time only 6 month exemption, though I expect this mandate loophole to be closed now.

Even if you could find a doctor to give you an exemption, the approval of the exemption sits with a state government health bureaucrat. Which it will not be approved. The doctor will also be reported to ahpra for investigation into whether they should still be a registered doctor.

Exemptions exist is theory only.

Why would they give an exemption for natural immunity to a guy who had had covid twice?

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
Why would they give an exemption for natural immunity to a guy who had had covid twice?

Hah, good point! Either natural immunity works and he lied about getting it, or it doesn't work, so he is not protected enough to protect the citizens of Australia.

Another article pointed out that he hadn't made any other attempt to get vaccinated before he 'caught Covid in December' so what was he hoping for at that point in order to get into the Australian Open? Was he relying on catching Covid to get approval at that point? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

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kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..
I am still curious as to why you seemingly went on a trial for some vaccine when you seem to be so against all of the vaccines around.

And there you go again getting it all wrong.

You very obviously don't know anything about the experimental jabs, as opposed to proven vaccine technologies.

Well, why don't you enlighten me. I like to learn and get very cross when I am wrong even though it happens a lot.

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kiterboy said..

FormulaNova said..

chrispy said..

kiterboy said..

chrispy said..

myscreenname said..

chrispy said..
I'm a wog and I am not anti vax

Oh crap.... maybe I have to look at the numbers some more.

Anyone in your family anti vaxxers?

No, yet I know c nut kooks of every race

Funny how people get sucked in by slick marketing and memes

The c nuts say it is about big pharma making money ..the Astra mob made no profit out of it

Yet they are following self proclaimed experts who are making how much coin out of their gullibility

Even old Pauline Hanson has worked out how stupid these kooks are and is running with the narrative that tickles their righteousness in order to keep her free ride going ..now that is really being conned

The Astra mob didn't make money because Pfizer launched a smear campaign against them to discredit their experimental jab in favour of their own.
Whilst there were averse effects happening from all the experimental shots, for a while there, all the msm was reporting on was the clotting issue from Astra Zeneca.

This corporate sponsored narrative to discredit competitors happens all the time in the media.

And of course you know that Pfizer tried to buy out Astra Zeneca not that long ago, to eliminate a competitor, but Astra Zeneca old them to GF. So you know there is bad blood there.

Lies again ...

Astra started the with the intention of not making a profit ..but stick with your dishonest narrative lol

Or even better make another meme of me because you are a snowflake who let's me live in your head rent free .... mwa mwa mwa kiteyboi

No, no, no. You have got it wrong.

When important to the story someone is trying to tell, it was because there were blood clotting issues. (seemingly an issue with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is very similar to the AZ one). Remember 'vaccines are dangerous'.

But when it is required, the story is always going to be a conspiracy. Pfizer was clearly making up all that stuff to try and sell more of their vaccines... the same vaccines that they are flat out keeping up with supply.

If Astra Zenica was still being used commonly here, it would be an outrage, but if not, it would be a conspiracy. With logic like that, its easy being a conspiracy nut.

If I remember, the issues with AZ blood clotting were reported heavily in the media because that is all that our federal government had signed up to. They bet on one horse and ignored Pfizer. Moderna wasn't yet available either as far as I remember. Hence no reports at the time about Pfizer or Moderna issues.

Logic? No, it's more fun believing in conspiracies, and easier to tell with memes.

Yeah, good one. Create your own narrative to suit your small minded arguement.
Sure, there were no Pfizer related negative effects until AFTER the aus gov signed up with them.

There is no way Pfizer could have financally suppressed their own negative effects while having their competitor's highlighted in the media.

How did I go? Did I get it right according to your twisted view?

Who cares whether there was any Pfizer related effects. At that point in time, in Australia, there was a huge impact on our vaccination rollout because it was just AZ and the articles in the media here were naturally talking about AZ. No point talking about Pfizer if our government hadn't bought any, and according to the news reports at the time, had even ignored calls from Pfizer representatives about getting in line to buy them.

Read it simply, we hadn't bought and didn't have any intention at that point in time to buy anything other than AZ. Which is why the press went to town on AZ side-effects.

From day one it was meant to be a non-profit vaccine, but its unfortunate that the side-effects put almost everyone off of using it.

YOUR ANZAC ANCESTORS ARE SO PHUKING ASHAMED OF YOU
AND NOW THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GODDAMN KIDS

My ANZAC ancestors took their typhoid vaccine without bitching about it even though it had a 10% case fatality rate, then went and fought the germans.

guess we have different backgrounds.