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Brent in Qld said..
No issue, you wish to see greater control of information that is publicly released about Covid-19. I'm glad I read the statement correctly.

Any other restrictions you would like to see imposed for the public while you are on a roll?

If you think that is about greater control rather than greater transparency, well buddy, you have major comprehension issues.

So what you would prefer is hearing about all the people having the sniffles as opposed to knowing what the stats are for actual serious cases?

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Imax1 said..
Brent , be careful , these guys are experts , it's what they do , your getting sucked into their wormhole .

Never really been known for being careful but appreciate the concern Imax1. And yes, expert sucky wormholers...

Looking to invest in covid.

Where do I catch covid?How much covid will there be by end of year do you think? What's a good amount of covid to catch?


I've heard that whales are manipulating covid. Is this true?

This is an expert who has written a book which is opening up ears and eyes worldwide.

Its a scathing attack on Fauci and his cohorts.

Fauci will not take it to court and the book will be revered in the future. Providing Schwab and his cohorts don't win their battle for complete control.

$2.90 on Kindle

"The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how "America's Doctor" launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies."

Wow, with material like this being written about him, why would he not take the author to court?

Found it, one of Kiterboy's better efforts

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japie said..
This is an expert who has written a book which is opening up ears and eyes worldwide.

Its a scathing attack on Fauci and his cohorts.

Fauci will not take it to court and the book will be revered in the future. Providing Schwab and his cohorts don't win their battle for complete control.

$2.90 on Kindle

Amazing book!
Have been following Robert F Kennedy long before this covid scam, he will be looked back on as a hero.

And if people are not awake yet to what is going on, i'm afraid there's no hope for them.

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snoidberg said..

And if people are not awake yet to what is going on, i'm afraid there's no hope for them.

Well you might as well stop preaching to us then.

open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz?si=0fm_mmwSQbeG3DZ3L--S4g


if you want a balanced point of view to what's really going on do yourself and your families a listen above.

as said before there aren't many as qualified and experienced as this guy both academically (published peer reviews papers) and in practise in the world. A true medical scientist looking at the data and who has been treating covid patients since the beginning.

In the end he doesn't really buy into conspiracy theories but highlights just basic ineptitude. It will give you a good insight into where the current science is at right now. Still a lot of questions need answering.

ps good luck trying to argue against any of this guys point of views - none of the other leading scientist can't nor are brave enough to try.

yeah i think most scientists have better things to do then argue with crazy people. But for the record, a summary of this clown is available here.

sciencebasedmedicine.org/depopulation-by-covid-19-vaccines/

handy hint: if someone uses the phrase 'depopulation agenda' they are a crackpot. will save you a lot of time on youtube.

In order to establish the truth in ANY circumstance it is essential to listen to both sides.

Absent this central principle the justice system would be utterly useless.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out. The side that uses censorship and ad hominem tactics is suppressing the truth.

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
yeah i think most scientists have better things to do then argue with crazy people. But for the record, a summary of this clown is available here.

sciencebasedmedicine.org/depopulation-by-covid-19-vaccines/

handy hint: if someone uses the phrase 'depopulation agenda' they are a crackpot. will save you a lot of time on youtube.

This clown is the most published medic in the field of cardio-renal medicine.

Two years ago he he had an impeccable reputation. Today he's a clown because he insisted on treating sick people when the bureaucracy insisted there was no treatment.

And he, amongst thousands of others, proved the bureaucracy were lying.

I reckon the people whose lives he saved would have a different view.

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..
yeah i think most scientists have better things to do then argue with crazy people. But for the record, a summary of this clown is available here.

sciencebasedmedicine.org/depopulation-by-covid-19-vaccines/

handy hint: if someone uses the phrase 'depopulation agenda' they are a crackpot. will save you a lot of time on youtube.

Dear me, you guys really really have lost the reasoned plot.

If you took the time to listen to a 3 hour articulated nuanced conversation you may in the end feel like the clown yourself. In such a long verbal conversation you can't hide your "clownness".


A highly intelligent, highly published, extremely driven medical professional who actually treats covid patients, which includes vaccinated and non vaccinated people.

and he's anything but an anti Vaxer.But highlights the issues surrounding the entire approach to covid which in the end has and is costing lives.


just good science and an informative person to listen to.

Hmmmm....

Dr Coatsworth said there should be less focus on cases numbers and more on hospitalisation rates.

One of Australia's most notable doctors and the country's former deputy chief medical officer has furiously hit back at some medical commenters, branding them as "irresponsible" and "increasing fear among the Australian population" around Omicron.

Speaking on ABC News on Thursday evening, Dr Nick Coatsworth also strenuously denied that he said Australia should let Covid-19 "rip".
The infectious diseases specialist, who was the face of the federal government's vaccine program, said that he wasn't unduly alarmed by surging numbers of cases in Victoria and New South Wales.
He said "of course" there should be concerns about Omicron but "the answer is not snap lockdowns, the answer is not increased restrictions for COVID-19. The answer is a booster blitz".

www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/dr-nick-coatsworths-omicron-fury/news-story/dde0189168861a0aa43c7b431eca49da

Memes. I need memes.

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eppo said..

Dear me, you guys really really have lost the reasoned plot.

If you took the time to listen to a 3 hour articulated nuanced conversation you may in the end feel like the clown yourself. In such a long verbal conversation you can't hide your "clownness".


A highly intelligent, highly published, extremely driven medical professional who actually treats covid patients, which includes vaccinated and non vaccinated people.

and he's anything but an anti Vaxer.But highlights the issues surrounding the entire approach to covid which in the end has and is costing lives.


just good science and an informative person to listen to.

if he took the time to do just *one* large scale double-blind randomised clinical trial then i would have all the time in the world to listen to him.

Previous link was not a detailed summary but halfway down summarises this esteemed doctor.

sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-covid-19-vaccine-holocaust-the-latest-antivaccine-messaging/

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japie said..

This clown is the most published medic in the field of cardio-renal medicine.

Two years ago he he had an impeccable reputation. Today he's a clown because he insisted on treating sick people when the bureaucracy insisted there was no treatment.

yes. And if he had stayed in the field of cardiology he would still have an excellent reputation. Instead he has moved into a field he has no specialisation in and made unsubstantiated claims that can't be verified.

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FormulaNova said..
Memes. I need memes.

No, this is great! Bitcoin and the Covid response. I know a bit about Bitcoin, but I'm/we're still learning about the sheepies response to Covid.

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CH3MTR4IL5 said..

eppo said..

Dear me, you guys really really have lost the reasoned plot.

If you took the time to listen to a 3 hour articulated nuanced conversation you may in the end feel like the clown yourself. In such a long verbal conversation you can't hide your "clownness".


A highly intelligent, highly published, extremely driven medical professional who actually treats covid patients, which includes vaccinated and non vaccinated people.

and he's anything but an anti Vaxer.But highlights the issues surrounding the entire approach to covid which in the end has and is costing lives.


just good science and an informative person to listen to.

if he took the time to do just *one* large scale double-blind randomised clinical trial then i would have all the time in the world to listen to him.

Previous link was not a detailed summary but halfway down summarises this esteemed doctor.

sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-covid-19-vaccine-holocaust-the-latest-antivaccine-messaging/

I am seriously interested as to how anybody should go about doing a randomised double blind clinical trial.

Any doctor who takes their Hippocratic oath seriously would be faced with a moral issue. Who do you deny the treatments?
Don't you think that there would be legal ramifications if some those who were in the control group should die?

Another question. It became very obvious very early that vitamin D deficiency plays a large role in the mortality outcome of the disease. As it does in most respiratory illnesses.

Why was the global population not carpet bombed with this information?

Why didn't government issue free vitamin D which is as cheap as?

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FormulaNova said..
Memes. I need memes.

No, this is great! Bitcoin and the Covid response. I know a bit about Bitcoin, but I'm/we're still learning about the sheepies response to Covid.

What's there to know about Bitcoin? Just a string of noughts and ones floating about the internet. Covid - that's life on earth, way more complex.

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japie said..

This clown is the most published medic in the field of cardio-renal medicine.

Two years ago he he had an impeccable reputation. Today he's a clown because he insisted on treating sick people when the bureaucracy insisted there was no treatment.

yes. And if he had stayed in the field of cardiology he would still have an excellent reputation. Instead he has moved into a field he has no specialisation in and made unsubstantiated claims that can't be verified.

He is a practicing doctor.
Please explain to me the rationale behind rigidly confining a practicing doctor to his field of expertise?

Are doctors who specialise expected to shelve previous experience when confronted with a patient who is not suffering from an ailment which falls under their specialty?

Also could you direct me to refutations of his published literature on Covid treatment?

Scientific refutation please. Not opinion pieces.

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Ian K said..

What's there to know about Bitcoin? Just a string of noughts and ones floating about the internet. Covid - that's life on earth, way more complex.

I think we agree.

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japie said..

I am seriously interested as to how anybody should go about doing a randomised double blind clinical trial.

?

I think the point of these trials is to find if a particular treatment is effective. Not to withhold a known working treatment from someone.

The double-blind bit is to make sure the doctors and nurses don't know, so that they can't accidentally influence the outcome. This would include the risk of letting someone die... but at that point you don't even know if the treatment is effective, so its not like you are consigning anyone to die.

I thought the antivaxer, gov. world de-population conspiracy theory thread got locked ? 3 times ? months ago ?
Did the CT crew get banned from facebook and twitter, now returning to try again with their propaganda.

They remind me of the religious people that come knocking on your door trying to convert you to their beliefs.

I agree, the point of trials is to figure out what is and isn't effective.

Double blind trials however necessitate withholding the medicine from a section of sick patients which is where the ethical consideration intervenes. If that were the only way to establish the fact then it could be argued otherwise. But they are not.

There are now so, so many trial results available which show irrefutable evidence that quite a large array of medicines are effective. Nearly all of them are used in conjunction with others.

All of them are already used widely and none have any safety issues. There are state and provincial health officers around the world who have gone against the WHO advice and used them to the great benefit of the population.

Tell me this. If you faced the situation where you were a confirmed Covid patient who was beginning to feel decidedly ill and you were examined by a professor of medicine who said to you that there is a protocol which he has been using successfully and safely would you refuse it?

And what is more pertinent how would you feel if you knew that said professor had been using a successful protocol but in your case he decided to withhold that information from you and you were to find out about it?

Assuming you lived that is.

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japie said..
I agree, the point of trials is to figure out what is and isn't effective.

Double blind trials however necessitate withholding the medicine from a section of sick patients which is where the ethical consideration intervenes. If that were the only way to establish the fact then it could be argued otherwise. But they are not.

There are now so, so many trial results available which show irrefutable evidence that quite a large array of medicines are effective. Nearly all of them are used in conjunction with others.

All of them are already used widely and none have any safety issues. There are state and provincial health officers around the world who have gone against the WHO advice and used them to the great benefit of the population.

Tell me this. If you faced the situation where you were a confirmed Covid patient who was beginning to feel decidedly ill and you were examined by a professor of medicine who said to you that there is a protocol which he has been using successfully and safely would you refuse it?

And what is more pertinent how would you feel if you knew that said professor had been using a successful protocol but in your case he decided to withhold that information from you and you were to find out about it?

Assuming you lived that is.

I think the better question would be:

What if you had covid and were getting worse everyday and the doctor says to you "Well you're vaxxed but it's not working, so it looks like you'll die"; would you be happy to accept that or would you be asking for something else, anything else to try?

Or would you still say "Hurr hurr, don't gimmie none of dat horse de-wormer"?

No to the horse de-wormer, as you would be stupid to take.
Id go for the intravenous bleach, it works on Youtube.