Got mine today too still waiting on mast though.

Hadou was clear in his review that it does not match the speed & looseness of the 980 but that they complement each over very well.

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toppleover said..
Thanks to SurfFX for the speedy delivery - pic below of my new 1095 next to me ol faithful 980

As someone said somewhere......"High aspect dihedral is a real thing"

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Stingersup said..
Ride report please
If it can match the 980's speed and the 1210's glide it will be a winner.

Will take her for a spin tomorrow morning & will hold off commenting until I've got a few sessions on her, have heard that the 1095 is not as forgiving as the 980 & 1210 but once you get it dialled .

Also read that it can match the speed of the 980 & glide of the 1210, hard to believe so it's going to be interesting, hope my skills are good enough but may take some time.

I've heard everything about this wing... Expecially about the speed stall.

As usual I guess the best way to know for sure is to try yourself, which I'm going to do soon.

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frenchfoiler said..

toppleover said..

Stingersup said..
Ride report please
If it can match the 980's speed and the 1210's glide it will be a winner.

Will take her for a spin tomorrow morning & will hold off commenting until I've got a few sessions on her, have heard that the 1095 is not as forgiving as the 980 & 1210 but once you get it dialled .

Also read that it can match the speed of the 980 & glide of the 1210, hard to believe so it's going to be interesting, hope my skills are good enough but may take some time.

I've heard everything about this wing... Expecially about the speed stall.

As usual I guess the best way to know for sure is to try yourself, which I'm going to do soon.

Also report can be different weither you try on wingding or surf foiling, which is definetly not the same.

I've used it surf foiling for the past couple of days with a flat unifoil 13" tail. Previous wings are unifoil 190 and a modified unifoil 210 (4cm taken out the middle of each side of the wing a la Rob von piros- ends up like a better turning 190). For me the turning, speed and control was instant and I loved it. Everything is a bit faster. The pumping also is faster and the connection turns can feel more fun than regular turns. It's true that the technique is harder for pumping. On the first connection it's easy enough and it pumps fast... you feel like it will pump for ever.... but as you come out of the second and third wave with less energy and your pump deteriorates from high, fast little taps to a tired up/down slow pump then it sometimes catches you out. At 70kg in neoprene I can dig it out of a hole and recover a slow pump... but only on the first connection... on the second or third my technique needs to be good or i'm too tired. I should add that I'm still playing around with shims and mast position. For the minute I think no tail shim because it's a long fuse (lots of leverage) so I want as little drag as possible to keep pump speed high. Ive always used shims in the past because they seem to help low speed pumping... but this one likes to go fast. Probably my technique needs to change a bit as I'm used to slower wings with more lift and really short fuselages. This one is the opposite

The one area where this wing surprises in relation to connecting waves is glide. There's been a couple of times I've come off a wave with no intention of connecting a wave but it's just glided so far that I caught a breath and changed my mind. Likewise I had one where I thought i was too gassed to connect a wave and stopped pumping.... but then it just kept on gliding and i connected anyway.

Anyway, i probably went on about stall speed/pumping too much but that seems to be what people are wondering. In terms of on the wave itself it's great. High speed with really good turning and rolls really well for cutbacks etc.

Right now I'm only interested in using this wing. Connection of 5 waves wont happen for me again for a while until my technique/cardio gets better..... but 2-3 is easy enough and I'd rather that at high speed for the sensation.

Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

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Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Hey mattllew, thanks for sharing you thoughts...have you ridden the 980 or 1210 & could compare to 1095 ?

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

I haven't tried any other Takuma's but I did try with and without shim yesterday. I think there was bit more control in a cutback with a shim. It absolutely ripped turns either with or without shim to be honest so I was just playing around with shims to see which would maximise the pump.. But it turns out it was my technique that needed adjusting. I discovered today that with that long takuma fuse I needed to pump more from the back foot. It's pumping fantastic for me now so I'll try a shim again next time.

I should add that I'm using a 13" Unifoil flat tail which has wider tips than the takuma 178 so probably has more surface area/downforce anyway

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mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

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Hwy1North said..

toppleover said..

mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

For me positive means more lift & negative less lift but each to their own.

First impressions of 1095/178 prone, wow! really fun wings.

Typical Kujira feel, heaps of glide/pump and turns great - you can really notice the dihedral on this new wing as it rolls over into a turn so easily. I think it might turn as good or better than the 980 & it has the glide/pump of the 1210 but not the low end of the 1210. Also a more gradual lift than both 980/1210 & feels faster.

Only early days & still need to get it dialled in but super stoked definitely exceeded my expectations

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toppleover said..

Hwy1North said..

toppleover said..

mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

For me positive means more lift & negative less lift but each to their own.

First impressions of 1095/178 prone, wow! really fun wings.

Typical Kujira feel, heaps of glide/pump and turns great - you can really notice the dihedral on this new wing as it rolls over into a turn so easily. I think it might turn as good or better than the 980 & it has the glide/pump of the 1210 but not the low end of the 1210. Also a more gradual lift than both 980/1210 & feels faster.

Only early days & still need to get it dialled in but super stoked definitely exceeded my expectations

First try on the 1095/178. I didn't use the shim plat, only on small shim with stab.
I'm really used to Unifoil Hyper 150 and 170 which I really like for surf foiling.

Compare to Lift 120 or Army 925, the 1095 felt more like the Unifoil : gradual lift, stable and front foot pressure, but faster than Unifoil. The low end not as good as Unifoil but still much better than the Lift and Army. Also I think with more time on it I will get used to it no problem.

Turning is really good, good control at hight speed.

The Glide is amazing.

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frenchfoiler said..

toppleover said..

Hwy1North said..

toppleover said..

mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

For me positive means more lift & negative less lift but each to their own.

First impressions of 1095/178 prone, wow! really fun wings.

Typical Kujira feel, heaps of glide/pump and turns great - you can really notice the dihedral on this new wing as it rolls over into a turn so easily. I think it might turn as good or better than the 980 & it has the glide/pump of the 1210 but not the low end of the 1210. Also a more gradual lift than both 980/1210 & feels faster.

Only early days & still need to get it dialled in but super stoked definitely exceeded my expectations

First try on the 1095/178. I didn't use the shim plat, only on small shim with stab.
I'm really used to Unifoil Hyper 150 and 170 which I really like for surf foiling.

Compare to Lift 120 or Army 925, the 1095 felt more like the Unifoil : gradual lift, stable and front foot pressure, but faster than Unifoil. The low end not as good as Unifoil but still much better than the Lift and Army. Also I think with more time on it I will get used to it no problem.

Turning is really good, good control at hight speed.

The Glide is amazing.

Does it turn better than the others or same ?

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kobo said..

frenchfoiler said..

toppleover said..

Hwy1North said..

toppleover said..

mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

For me positive means more lift & negative less lift but each to their own.

First impressions of 1095/178 prone, wow! really fun wings.

Typical Kujira feel, heaps of glide/pump and turns great - you can really notice the dihedral on this new wing as it rolls over into a turn so easily. I think it might turn as good or better than the 980 & it has the glide/pump of the 1210 but not the low end of the 1210. Also a more gradual lift than both 980/1210 & feels faster.

Only early days & still need to get it dialled in but super stoked definitely exceeded my expectations

First try on the 1095/178. I didn't use the shim plat, only on small shim with stab.
I'm really used to Unifoil Hyper 150 and 170 which I really like for surf foiling.

Compare to Lift 120 or Army 925, the 1095 felt more like the Unifoil : gradual lift, stable and front foot pressure, but faster than Unifoil. The low end not as good as Unifoil but still much better than the Lift and Army. Also I think with more time on it I will get used to it no problem.

Turning is really good, good control at hight speed.

The Glide is amazing.

Does it turn better than the others or same ?

I need to use it more, but it seems that it turns better, hold big carve but also seems to pivot very well.

Tomorow I will get another try.

But for a first try, I like it, it makes me think I could easily use only this one and sell my other foils.

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toppleover said..

Hwy1North said..

toppleover said..

mattllew said..
Update: okay I figured out the pump now.. It's just more of a back foot pump with its long fuselage compared to the short fuselages and liftier front wings I'm used to. You can really weight your back foot and it just accelerates without collapsing. It really is something special

Regading shims at the rear wing, both mister bennitts & mike pedigo are positive shimming their KJ1095's 1 deg & 0.5 respectively for more lift/front foot pressure for better turning.

So confused on positive vs. negative tail trim terminology. Wish it were trailing edge up vs down in relation to the front foils lifting side, or simply a washer at the back screw.... According to the video at 2:00 positive shimming a Takuma is trailing edge down, and that makes less lift, but more speed. So it should make that more back foot? But I've found that with a KD tail which mounts in a more trailing edge up (negative?) that it's very back foot until I add 1.5 mm of rear screw shim (positive?) But if we were talking Axis, then positive has the opposite effect?

For me positive means more lift & negative less lift but each to their own.

First impressions of 1095/178 prone, wow! really fun wings.

Typical Kujira feel, heaps of glide/pump and turns great - you can really notice the dihedral on this new wing as it rolls over into a turn so easily. I think it might turn as good or better than the 980 & it has the glide/pump of the 1210 but not the low end of the 1210. Also a more gradual lift than both 980/1210 & feels faster.

Only early days & still need to get it dialled in but super stoked definitely exceeded my expectations

Totally agree w this have and 3 sessions on it and it's gonna be great. Def true wthe back foot pump and letting it glide out it actually slows down the cadence and it goes fast.
Less cardio when you get it going , but you have to more gentle than the 1210 digging out of the hole. I'm using a .5 degree shim on the front of the stab same as Erik and Pedigo- got to try Erik's and had to get one. Gonna be fun!

Keen to hear from wing foilers whether you think the 980 still has its place in a 2 wing quiver with the 1095 or whether it's best to pair with the 750 ?

took out the 1095 today with the 178 tail for a prone. no shim. ive towed with the 980 before a few times but im coming off gofoil gear. wow. this thing is f@#$n amazing. i was going to compare it to the pnl185 but that thing is like trying to stand on top of a moving train covered in vaseline compared to this thing. id say its just as fast and 17 times more stable. take offs are incredibly easy and stable, turn wise it doesnt turn as hard as a GL140 but the smoothness with which it did turn when pushing it pretty hard tells me that i can probably take it a fair bit further. pumping was great but i want to shim it up to see if i can get off the back foot reliance people are talking about here. im going to have to work out how to slow down, ive seen some guys doing little check turns, before coming back in to turn on sections cos this thing is that fast im a little sheepish at this point. couple of times i just went stragith over the back of it going f@# that way too fast. Cheers takuma!

Well it's just getting better and better the more I use it. Used it in medium sized clean waves last week and today tiny clean and glassy 1 footers. It surprised me today. no real reason for me to grab the Unifoil 190 in those conditions (or think about purchasing a 1210). It did everything I wanted it to and more although I may not have felt like that if my first session on it was in tiny conditions. It definitely takes a couple of sessions to get in tune with it. but it seems to hook everyone from the very first session with at least one moment of magic.

At 70kg I suspect there's still a place for a bigger wing in choppy conditions with lots of whitewater. I guess I'll find out if the 1095 can cope with crappy conditions at some point. but it's freezing here at the moment so I'm unlikely to go out in onshore mush til it warms up.

Any more information on the 1350???

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Any more information on the 1350???

There is no 1350 at this point. If they have played with a 1350, they were protos & not in production so I wouldn't hold your breath.

Yeah Takuma has a much slower release pace, unlike Axis/Armstrong. I wouldn't expect anything until mid-year.

a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

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a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

Hey Adam, just to clarify - thick side of shim under the front or back bolt of stab & what board are you on also prone/sup other?

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adamscianniman said..
a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

I'm about four or five sessions in on 1095 and I've tried a .5? shim under the front screw. At the recommendation of the progression Project I took one of the blue Armstrong shims .5? and chopped it at the thickest point where the hole is and put it under the front screw for slightly more lift at 89 kg and it seems to work well I still need to continue dialing the pump but it does seem to favor slightly more back foot and a slower cadence.
I also have the Go Foil stuff and I'm digging that as well but yes the pump cadence slower Than the 1210/Go Foil (gt1250/rs1150 14 and 12 FTS)seems to dig out of the hole better at slower speeds easier to use. It's fun to have them both -I prone surf. Pretty amazing how the 1095 rolls over instantly and carry speed through carves and turns.

I wanted two set ups that were somewhat similar especially the 1210 versus the GF. Very easy to switch between the two but the 1095 seems to be its own animal and it's a fun one let us know how it goes with the shim situation! I'm looking forward to learning more on 1095 myself!

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a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

I guess it also depends on your mast : alu ou carbone, those have different angle.

I have alu mast and put a 0.5 shim in front of the front screw of the rear wing. I lke it this way but need to try others combo and see how it goes. Such as base plat shim but also moving forward the mast. Right now it is at 20cm from the tail on my 4'3.

Seems like Adam put forward on his box. He said he uses plat shim but I think because his board has a bit of rocker, and he put a 0.5 shim on the rear as well.
"I shim the stab -1 (front bolt) and shim the base plate 1 degree (back bolt)"

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toppleover said..

adamscianniman said..
a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

Hey Adam, just to clarify - thick side of shim under the front or back bolt of stab & what board are you on also prone/sup other?

hey mate i was shimming to increase lift so fat side under front bolt (im pretty sure). pitching tail down to push front wing up. thats the way i always remember it. i know the takuma shims only let you go the other way, pitch tail up, because of the way the shim is shaped, it only goes on 1 way, im pretty sure that reduces lift. i have some 3d printed shims that can be put on either way. i tried the mast shim off the helium today in pretty good waves and no tail shim and it felt so good. i havent ever shimmed to reduce lift but since the takuma shims only go that way, maybe they are kind of recommending you dont shim the tail the way i did it (more drag, increase lift). getting closer to the feel i like though. i heard someone say that they have been using the takuma shims and it makes the pump better. coming off the go foil stuff i dont really understand how less lift can make you pump better but im sure its just cos i dont understand foils taht well ha ha. perhaps its cos they go faster or maybe it reduces stall speed or something.

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db541 said..

adamscianniman said..
a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

I'm about four or five sessions in on 1095 and I've tried a .5? shim under the front screw. At the recommendation of the progression Project I took one of the blue Armstrong shims .5? and chopped it at the thickest point where the hole is and put it under the front screw for slightly more lift at 89 kg and it seems to work well I still need to continue dialing the pump but it does seem to favor slightly more back foot and a slower cadence.
I also have the Go Foil stuff and I'm digging that as well but yes the pump cadence slower Than the 1210/Go Foil (gt1250/rs1150 14 and 12 FTS)seems to dig out of the hole better at slower speeds easier to use. It's fun to have them both -I prone surf. Pretty amazing how the 1095 rolls over instantly and carry speed through carves and turns.

I wanted two set ups that were somewhat similar especially the 1210 versus the GF. Very easy to switch between the two but the 1095 seems to be its own animal and it's a fun one let us know how it goes with the shim situation! I'm looking forward to learning more on 1095 myself!

nice! the shim i used was a 1.5 so maybe a .5 might be more appropriate. will report back once ive tried. wanna get a few in with just the mast shim though. we were dock starting the 1440 and getting really long pumps out of it and it helped dial the takuma style pump a bit more. definitely alot different. coming from go foil i was massively overpumping at the start and wasting so much energy.

cheers!!!

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frenchfoiler said..

adamscianniman said..
a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

I guess it also depends on your mast : alu ou carbone, those have different angle.

I have alu mast and put a 0.5 shim in front of the front screw of the rear wing. I lke it this way but need to try others combo and see how it goes. Such as base plat shim but also moving forward the mast. Right now it is at 20cm from the tail on my 4'3.

Seems like Adam put forward on his box. He said he uses plat shim but I think because his board has a bit of rocker, and he put a 0.5 shim on the rear as well.
"I shim the stab -1 (front bolt) and shim the base plate 1 degree (back bolt)"

awesome thanks for that.

yea a combo like that could definitely be appropriate. the 1.5 tail shim just killed the turn and thats not something i want to do with this thing cos it turns so well! also it pumps so good!

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adamscianniman said..

toppleover said..

adamscianniman said..
a few rides in now on the 1095. currently running 178 tail. i shimmed the tail for more lift today with a 1.5 degree shim (not the takuma one i have custom ones i cant remember where i got them). the pump is beastly BUT its really stiffened up the turning. which i knew it would do. but i was hoping it didnt stiff it up this much. im gonna try a mast shim tomorrow with no tail shim and see how that goes. i noticed with the pump that i really had to slow it down compared to the go foil stuff i was riding before. with go foil i found really fast shallow stabs was the best pump. the 1095 seems to like slower pumps where you milk the glide a bit more and rip your hips forward and stand up straight to get that glide. was a nice feeling. might have just been the shim i had in today though.

Anyone stuffed around with tuning the 1095 yet? anyone experimented with reducing the lift with tail shims? interested to know how that feels. i have a sneaking feeling that no tail shim with a mast shim to increase lift might give me the happy medium im after. but ive never mast shimmed so i wont know till i try it.

cheers!

Hey Adam, just to clarify - thick side of shim under the front or back bolt of stab & what board are you on also prone/sup other?

hey mate i was shimming to increase lift so fat side under front bolt (im pretty sure). pitching tail down to push front wing up. thats the way i always remember it. i know the takuma shims only let you go the other way, pitch tail up, because of the way the shim is shaped, it only goes on 1 way, im pretty sure that reduces lift. i have some 3d printed shims that can be put on either way. i tried the mast shim off the helium today in pretty good waves and no tail shim and it felt so good. i havent ever shimmed to reduce lift but since the takuma shims only go that way, maybe they are kind of recommending you dont shim the tail the way i did it (more drag, increase lift). getting closer to the feel i like though. i heard someone say that they have been using the takuma shims and it makes the pump better. coming off the go foil stuff i dont really understand how less lift can make you pump better but im sure its just cos i dont understand foils taht well ha ha. perhaps its cos they go faster or maybe it reduces stall speed or something.

I'm no expert either but from my understanding by shimming for less lift (Takuma shims), there is less drag so in theory you should have a bit more glide/pump but at the expense of turning.

I've been riding my Kujira's prone shimmed for less lift for a while now but recently started to shim the other way (-0.5) & have noticed a big improvement on turning (especially the 1210 - the 980 I've found has always turned well even with the +1.5 Takuma shim).

The 1095 with 178 stab shimmed at -0.5 seems from my limited experience on it to roll over into a turn easier than the 980 but doesn't hold or feel as solid through the turn but I've only ridden it about 4 times in crappy conditions so looking forward to getting more time on it.

Finally got my hands on the Kujira 1095 after seeing Adam and Erik feedback.

TLTR : Turns like the 980, pumps like the 1210 if at speed. It's a clear next step in the evolution of the kujira range!

Long version :
- Turning and wave play : Turns like the 980, except if in a tight corner (small hollow wave), then you still feel the wide span. Breaching feels at least as good as the 1210, also super stable in foam hits.
- Pumping and stall : Pumps like the 1210 when at speed in terms of energy input, might get better with more sessions. If the speed is too low then the pumping is quite inefficient, the optimal cruising speed for pumping (minimum energy input per pump) is much higher than the 1210. For a high aspect wing, the stall speed is quite low and it has a very forgiving behavior, with early signs of partial stall when pushing too hard on it at low speed (more forgiving than the armstrong high aspect).
- Role in the range : Can replace the 980 and 1210 for proning on most days. I would still prefer a 980 if there is no pumping and it's a firing pointbreak, because it would be breaching less on hard turns and feel more compact. I would still prefer the 1210 in very low power waves where the average speed is quite low, also true for the 1440 if the conditions have no size nor power at all.
- Settings that feel right : On the aluminum mast and fuse, no shim on the plate, +0.5 degree shim on the 178 tail (higher AOA). I tried the custom short fuse that I usually run on the 1210, it felt great for turning but a bit draggy on the pumping.