Yep the 1150 on the ding is pretty awesome. It is super versatile.
Hilly you got the best of both running the 6.5 Ped.

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RichJam said..
Yep the 1150 on the ding is pretty awesome. It is super versatile.
Hilly you got the best of both running the 6.5 Ped.

The longer and smaller tail speeds it up and gives a bit more stability. Great package.

It is a bit off topic but i follow the progression project podcast... And i am a bit disapointed because they always talk about new design and they are really deep into tech talk... But they never mention the go foil step design... Or the quality of the 1.5 mast... Whereas i am sure the RS Line has totally its place considering performance prone foil and bullet proof design... with a really stiff and durable mast compared to takuma ****ty design... Or heavy and slow axis mast...

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Clemop said..
It is a bit off topic but i follow the progression project podcast... And i am a bit disapointed because they always talk about new design and they are really deep into tech talk... But they never mention the go foil step design... Or the quality of the 1.5 mast... Whereas i am sure the RS Line has totally its place considering performance prone foil and bullet proof design... with a really stiff and durable mast compared to takuma ****ty design... Or heavy and slow axis mast...

I loved the PP podcast early days, then found it got so deep into tech talk and details on riding aspects that don't interest me, kind of lost the stoke. Endless jabber about brands, models, acronyms, and numbers I have no connection with, my eyes glaze over -- it's a good indicator for just how boring and painful it must be for our spouses and non-foiling friends .

It is interesting how GF isn't a part of their world at all. I suspect it is because of how quickly PP advanced into high performance -- even if they tried out the early GF models, they quickly outgrew them. I bought my early GF gear relatively cheap from Hawaii, as GF owned the market there, then lost their virtual 100% market share by being slow to offer HA models. The Kauai guy I bought from said at the time everyone had GF and you literally couldn't give away GF stuff, which was the only reason he was willing to ship for a craigslist deal. So...for PP, I am guessing GF was seen as irrelevant, and hasn't yet come back into being worthy of considering. From a brand management perspective, I'd say GF pooped the bed in a pretty colossal textbook example.

There are 2 guys who won't go on PP...Alex Aguera and Army Armstrong. Maybe it's a AA problem

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Clemop said..
It is a bit off topic but i follow the progression project podcast... And i am a bit disapointed because they always talk about new design and they are really deep into tech talk... But they never mention the go foil step design... Or the quality of the 1.5 mast... Whereas i am sure the RS Line has totally its place considering performance prone foil and bullet proof design... with a really stiff and durable mast compared to takuma ****ty design... Or heavy and slow axis mast...

I still listen to PP but it is after all predominately a commercial in my opinion and the supported brands are very obvious.

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I finally got the RS1150 out winging. I have been loving the pnl185 lately, which I think it is pretty similar to rs1300. I have been choosing it where I want a little extra lift, with gusty variable conditions.

1150 was noticeably faster, felt slippery. And turns and pumps really nice. Probably will be my go to now as long as wind solid. The pnl has lower stall speed and glides just a little easier and longer in small swells ... so I can see why rs1300 is choice for many for downwinding.

I don't feel I need a 1000 right now, at least for winging. It was 35kt and up to head Hi swell yesterday, the 1150 held in fine. If we had bigger actual surf more often I expect the 1000 would be a must have :-)

At 62 kg the 1150 is a bit big for windfoiling above 20 knots or when there is big chop in the waves. I wait for the 850 to complete the 1150 for winging and prone. I hope it will be really manoeuvrable and responsive like a lift 120!

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At 62 kg the 1150 is a bit big for windfoiling above 20 knots or when there is big chop in the waves. I wait for the 850 to complete the 1150 for winging and prone. I hope it will be really manoeuvrable and responsive like a lift 120!

That's interesting, as you were the strongest proponent on here for the 1150 over the 1000, a few months ago you said "I know my feedback is a bit different from what is written above but i am sure the 1150 is better for me for a one wing quiver for both prone and wingfoil... even for 62 kg". Now you are suggesting dropping even below the 1000 for winging. So, I am curious, now that you have a few more months into the gear, are you still stoked on the 1150 for prone foil too, or have you dropped down a size there too?

I am still stoked on the 1150, I've only had 1 surf foil session where I'd have liked something smaller, as the waves had some juice. Otherwise been really happy with the 1150.

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Clemop said..
At 62 kg the 1150 is a bit big for windfoiling above 20 knots or when there is big chop in the waves. I wait for the 850 to complete the 1150 for winging and prone. I hope it will be really manoeuvrable and responsive like a lift 120!

That's interesting, as you were the strongest proponent on here for the 1150 over the 1000, a few months ago you said "I know my feedback is a bit different from what is written above but i am sure the 1150 is better for me for a one wing quiver for both prone and wingfoil... even for 62 kg". Now you are suggesting dropping even below the 1000 for winging. So, I am curious, now that you have a few more months into the gear, are you still stoked on the 1150 for prone foil too, or have you dropped down a size there too?

I am still stoked on the 1150, I've only had 1 surf foil session where I'd have liked something smaller, as the waves had some juice. Otherwise been really happy with the 1150.

I'm 70 kg and it's the 1150 FTL 14.5 / 36 mast for wing all conditions for me, flat water, waves, light winds, strong winds. I just use a smaller wing if it's super windy. I agree a one wing quiver is the 1150 for most people. Even going down the face of decent ocean swell it's well mannered and does not tent to over foil / buck you off. You might go smaller if your goal is to really tighten your turns.

I like 1000 prone FTS 14.5 / 32 mast and use the 1150 when I want a bit more glide, turns well with the FTS14.5

To Clemops thought, I have the lift 120, the 1000 is close to lift 120 and my guess is the smaller RS 850 might be closer to the lift 90HA, I know the 1000 has more area than the 120 but the 120 has more camber, so the usable range would be similar. Im my experience the 1000 is more user friendly than the 120 maybe 120 has slightly more glide. All great foils.

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Clemop said..
At 62 kg the 1150 is a bit big for windfoiling above 20 knots or when there is big chop in the waves. I wait for the 850 to complete the 1150 for winging and prone. I hope it will be really manoeuvrable and responsive like a lift 120!

That's interesting, as you were the strongest proponent on here for the 1150 over the 1000, a few months ago you said "I know my feedback is a bit different from what is written above but i am sure the 1150 is better for me for a one wing quiver for both prone and wingfoil... even for 62 kg". Now you are suggesting dropping even below the 1000 for winging. So, I am curious, now that you have a few more months into the gear, are you still stoked on the 1150 for prone foil too, or have you dropped down a size there too?

I am still stoked on the 1150, I've only had 1 surf foil session where I'd have liked something smaller, as the waves had some juice. Otherwise been really happy with the 1150.

oh yeah i am still super stoked on the 1150 because it is so easy for prone... pumping, connecting waves with great turning capabilities... for me it is still the one wing quiver... but for winging i am a bit overpowered when the waves are pushing! we have a good reef break in town quite powerfull and i am always avoiding the big set because it is too hard for me to keep the 1150 under water (i have a 75 cm mast so no margin for mistake).
I think i would be more confortable with the 1000 but it would be to close to the 1150. The 650 would be to small to prone. So the 850 would be the good choice.

But when the waves are not too powerfull and when the wind is not too strong the 1150 is great. Good glide, good speed, really low stall speed, good turning.

Also i have trade my 14,5 fts for the 12.5 fts... the 1150 is better than ever with this tail!

one thing i have noticed prone foiling is when the waves are clean and waist high with a 10/12 sec period, not too fast... it is so so so good on the 1150! the wing is really fast so you can go straight ahead the wave then carve one way to the other, do top turns, cut backs... the wing turns so good when the speed is not too fast. I think when the speed increase too much the wing tend to lock a bit and the turning is harder.

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Clemop said..

juandesooka said..

Clemop said..
At 62 kg the 1150 is a bit big for windfoiling above 20 knots or when there is big chop in the waves. I wait for the 850 to complete the 1150 for winging and prone. I hope it will be really manoeuvrable and responsive like a lift 120!

That's interesting, as you were the strongest proponent on here for the 1150 over the 1000, a few months ago you said "I know my feedback is a bit different from what is written above but i am sure the 1150 is better for me for a one wing quiver for both prone and wingfoil... even for 62 kg". Now you are suggesting dropping even below the 1000 for winging. So, I am curious, now that you have a few more months into the gear, are you still stoked on the 1150 for prone foil too, or have you dropped down a size there too?

I am still stoked on the 1150, I've only had 1 surf foil session where I'd have liked something smaller, as the waves had some juice. Otherwise been really happy with the 1150.

oh yeah i am still super stoked on the 1150 because it is so easy for prone... pumping, connecting waves with great turning capabilities... for me it is still the one wing quiver... but for winging i am a bit overpowered when the waves are pushing! we have a good reef break in town quite powerfull and i am always avoiding the big set because it is too hard for me to keep the 1150 under water (i have a 75 cm mast so no margin for mistake).
I think i would be more confortable with the 1000 but it would be to close to the 1150. The 650 would be to small to prone. So the 850 would be the good choice.

But when the waves are not too powerfull and when the wind is not too strong the 1150 is great. Good glide, good speed, really low stall speed, good turning.

Also i have trade my 14,5 fts for the 12.5 fts... the 1150 is better than ever with this tail!

Have a 12.5 fts for sale if interested pm me

Easter family travels are done.
Time to get wet again.

i have changed my 1150 for a 1000...
OMG i am so stoked after my first prone session with it! a few months ago i found it a bit hard to pump and not really stable so i decided to go with the 1150. After 4 months of 1150 enjoyment, i have improved my skills and now i can trully exploit the 1000.
The main difference is the maniability, you can carve with it and really push with the legs during the carve. I feel i just have to turn my head to carve in a direction or an other. I don't have to take care of the tips breaching (the main difference between the 1150) because the span is not to big... and it still pumps great with several 3 for 1.
So for me, it is THE WING... not HA, not super HA, but so fast, manoeuvrable and easy to pump...

(i have winged it twice, and it is perfect as well)

RS 1000 75cm plate mast fts 12.5
62 kg

www.instagram.com/p/CdA6Z36o0GY/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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Clemop said..
i have changed my 1150 for a 1000...
OMG i am so stoked after my first prone session with it! a few months ago i found it a bit hard to pump and not really stable so i decided to go with the 1150. After 4 months of 1150 enjoyment, i have improved my skills and now i can trully exploit the 1000.
The main difference is the maniability, you can carve with it and really push with the legs during the carve. I feel i just have to turn my head to carve in a direction or an other. I don't have to take care of the tips breaching (the main difference between the 1150) because the span is not to big... and it still pumps great with several 3 for 1.
So for me, it is THE WING... not HA, not super HA, but so fast, manoeuvrable and easy to pump...

(i have winged it twice, and it is perfect as well)

RS 1000 75cm plate mast fts 12.5
62 kg

I'm finding the same thing at 95 Kgs. I've been off the 1150 for a few weeks to focus on the 1000 to see if my pump and control would rise to that level and i've been plesantly surprised. Im on a chopped 12.5 FTL and its really nice. Disagree on the speed though, i don't find it any faster than the 1150, just turns alot better.

It really wants to always be turning, generates alot of speed on the turns, and turning burns some distance to keep you from outrunning the power. If the wave is really slow and meandering there's alot of quick little check turns to set up for the big turns in the power. Riding with my buddy on the lift 120 its like night and day in our riding styles. He's out back just barely touching the power gliding around big carves and shooting through critical sections to glide effortlessly into another. I'm on the inside throwing 5x the turns, going half as fast, working the pocket, and really working to get back out for more. The Lift 120 is carve the RS 1000 is pivot and bounce. I've always been a pivot rider so this is definately my speed.

I ride the 26.5" mast and i had been thinking about a longer mast for the ding but im feeling the same thing on that span, its making the short mast less of an issue, even on the ding.

You guys are evil, devils whispering in my ear, temptations for more gear. The 1000 sure does sound like it's big fun on its day.

I recently had a wing day on quite big wind swell, felt like I was maxed out speed on the 1150 (damn gps battery ran out, no confirmation). With the savage wipeouts not sure I want to go much faster. The upper performance limit maybe hit mentally before the gear limit. Doh.

Longer mast...I still ride the 27 prone but 32 wing...I was a late adopter too but it is SO much better...that extra leeway allows way more confidence in chop. Do it, you won't regret it.

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You guys are evil, devils whispering in my ear, temptations for more gear. The 1000 sure does sound like it's big fun on its day.

I recently had a wing day on quite big wind swell, felt like I was maxed out speed on the 1150 (damn gps battery ran out, no confirmation). With the savage wipeouts not sure I want to go much faster. The upper performance limit maybe hit mentally before the gear limit. Doh.

Longer mast...I still ride the 27 prone but 32 wing...I was a late adopter too but it is SO much better...that extra leeway allows way more confidence in chop. Do it, you won't regret it.

It's not a fast HA. It's a a ripping mid aspect. 1150 is lift ha 170. 1000 is lift 150 v2

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juandesooka said..
You guys are evil, devils whispering in my ear, temptations for more gear. The 1000 sure does sound like it's big fun on its day.

I recently had a wing day on quite big wind swell, felt like I was maxed out speed on the 1150 (damn gps battery ran out, no confirmation). With the savage wipeouts not sure I want to go much faster. The upper performance limit maybe hit mentally before the gear limit. Doh.

Longer mast...I still ride the 27 prone but 32 wing...I was a late adopter too but it is SO much better...that extra leeway allows way more confidence in chop. Do it, you won't regret it.

For me it is not "more gear", i have sold my 1150 to buy the 1000 ^^
Even if it is not ideal, i want to have only one mast, one wing and one tail for both prone and winging.

Does anybody feels that there should be a bigger RS on offer?
Something like a RS1500 for the low wind days.
I'm doing downwinds in the GT2200, and I don't really like the feeling. Yes goes up easily, but it's horrible comported with the RS1300.

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Pacoo said..
Does anybody feels that there should be a bigger RS on offer?
Something like a RS1500 for the low wind days.
I'm doing downwinds in the GT2200, and I don't really like the feeling. Yes goes up easily, but it's horrible comported with the RS1300.

Maybe the GT 1770 would work better for you. So far I haven't heard about any larger size RS wings being tested, just the RS 850.

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Pacoo said..
Does anybody feels that there should be a bigger RS on offer?
Something like a RS1500 for the low wind days.
I'm doing downwinds in the GT2200, and I don't really like the feeling. Yes goes up easily, but it's horrible comported with the RS1300.

Was watching a guy yesterday on a 2200, 20" tail, short mast and one of those super long skinny Kalamas struggle to paddle up in 2 meter swell and gusts to 40 knots. If I had to use gear like that just to get up and then try to ride waves with it... this after I've been out for an hour and a half on an RS1150 5' board and tiny 3.5 wing I hardly even notice going downwind... AND I can go back upwind.

I'm never going back to the paddle

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Thatspec said..

Was watching a guy yesterday on a 2200, 20" tail, short mast and one of those super long skinny Kalamas struggle to paddle up in 2 meter swell and gusts to 40 knots.

It's all about paddle technique it seems. Sounds like the guy is new to paddling. James Casey on the other hand says he can always paddle up in less wind that he can get up with a wing.

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Thatspec said..

Was watching a guy yesterday on a 2200, 20" tail, short mast and one of those super long skinny Kalamas struggle to paddle up in 2 meter swell and gusts to 40 knots.

It's all about paddle technique it seems. Sounds like the guy is new to paddling. James Casey on the other hand says he can always paddle up in less wind that he can get up with a wing.

100% right it's technique and timing, getting your body to feel the bumps rather than just trying to grind things out.

Like anything the more you do it the easier it gets. Everyone wants short cuts to DW and for sure there are some good tips out there on the internet nothing comes close to getting out in the bumps and getting the body to learn and adapt.

Here is a vid of Ang and a couple of new crew to DW learning to get up, you can see Ang has good paddle technique she over works the pumping side a little and the other two guys have average paddling technique but have good feel for the bump and have good drive forward and up which helps them get up nice and easy.
If you want to be good at getting up DW then learn how to paddle and learn to feel the water both are not hard to learn with time. www.instagram.com/reel/CdE8yZHjGKa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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paul.j said..

www.instagram.com/reel/CdE8yZHjGKa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

That's some great drone footage and nice looking conditions. Really shows the technique required

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paul.j said..

Hdip said..

Thatspec said..

Was watching a guy yesterday on a 2200, 20" tail, short mast and one of those super long skinny Kalamas struggle to paddle up in 2 meter swell and gusts to 40 knots.

It's all about paddle technique it seems. Sounds like the guy is new to paddling. James Casey on the other hand says he can always paddle up in less wind that he can get up with a wing.

100% right it's technique and timing, getting your body to feel the bumps rather than just trying to grind things out.

Like anything the more you do it the easier it gets. Everyone wants short cuts to DW and for sure there are some good tips out there on the internet nothing comes close to getting out in the bumps and getting the body to learn and adapt.

Here is a vid of Ang and a couple of new crew to DW learning to get up, you can see Ang has good paddle technique she over works the pumping side a little and the other two guys have average paddling technique but have good feel for the bump and have good drive forward and up which helps them get up nice and easy.
If you want to be good at getting up DW then learn how to paddle and learn to feel the water both are not hard to learn with time. www.instagram.com/reel/CdE8yZHjGKa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Jacko those bumps look epic

Well I've been busy and silent for a while.

Finally managed to get some solid towing down. 2.5-2.8m and 13+ seconds.
Holy ****. Amazingly fun. Dropped the 12.5L tail for the 12.5S paired with the 650 was incredible. The ability of this setup to carve hard and controllably even when the tips or half the wing is out is so confidence inspiring.


One day I'll get some footage but for now I'm having waaaay tooo much fun.

I keep having issues with the front wing fitting, mainly when using the GT2200 for long periods (more than 2 hours). The front wing becomes loose. I tried gofoil stickers and wax, without positive results.
On the other hand, the rs1300 is fitting perfectly.
Any suggestion?
Does anybody have the same issue?

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I keep having issues with the front wing fitting, mainly when using the GT2200 for long periods (more than 2 hours). The front wing becomes loose. I tried gofoil stickers and wax, without positive results.
On the other hand, the rs1300 is fitting perfectly.
Any suggestion?
Does anybody have the same issue?

Is it flush up to the fuse? If yes sand the foil so it can go deeper onto the tapered part of the fuse.