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remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

13 Apr 2024 5:53pm
Peer-reviewed Medical Journals... that's what actual medical doctors and researchers read and publish in. You remember, the the real doctors that treated your mangled leg and made sure you didn't die of sepsis by using scientifically researched and evaluated "Big Pharma" antibiotics published in, you guessed it, peer-reviewed scientific literature. You must be the least appreciative patient in Australia.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

13 Apr 2024 7:14pm
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D3 said..
We don't instantly dismiss her evidence. In fact, your so called MSM has reported pretty accurately on the number of people who unfortunately suffered severe adverse events after vaccination. Just like with OK, we don't dismiss or belittle what happened to them just because it's rare.

But we don't see stories like hers as very good evidence supporting your claim that such events and stories are extremely common, or that they are being suppressed.


The side effects are not rare - that's the LIE you bought.

Nearly all the testimony from the public and the thousands of medics who speak out are suppressed by the MSM.

Rare - nothing could possibly be further than the truth.
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

13 Apr 2024 7:31pm
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Pcdefender said..

Rare - nothing could possibly be further than the truth.


True... serious side effects are extremely rare.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

13 Apr 2024 7:40pm
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Pcdefender said..


Nearly all the testimony from the public and the thousands of medics who speak out are suppressed by the MSM.




I suppose what i wrote above is also not true?
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

13 Apr 2024 7:55pm
Yes.
psychojoe
psychojoe

WA

2239 posts

13 Apr 2024 8:08pm
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..

Rare - nothing could possibly be further than the truth.



True... serious side effects are extremely rare.


You're only correct because the AMA doesn't consider years of chest pain serious. Didn't spend a night in hospital, not serious. Didn't miss work, not serious. The bar for 'serious' is quite high, certainly a lot higher than the bar for 'safe and effective'
D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

13 Apr 2024 9:09pm
So, PC. Where are all the people with serious adverse reactions?

How do you know about them?

How many do you know of?


Edit: If this Grand Conspiracy to squash all reports of adverse events actually exists? Why are you able to find out about them? Surely they'd be able to hide the evidence better than that?
D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

13 Apr 2024 9:16pm
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psychojoe said..


You're only correct because the AMA doesn't consider years of chest pain serious. Didn't spend a night in hospital, not serious. Didn't miss work, not serious. The bar for 'serious' is quite high, certainly a lot higher than the bar for 'safe and effective'


To be fair, I'd be hard pressed believing someone was suffering from a serious condition if it was not seriously affecting their ability to function.

Not saying that something has to result in hospitalisation to have a significant impact on someone's ability to live Day to Day. But I'd need a bit more information before I'd understand why it should be compared with a condition that did result in hospitalisation or affects someones ability to work etc.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

13 Apr 2024 9:56pm
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D3 said..
So, PC. Where are all the people with serious adverse reactions?



Well, there's a hundred and forty thousand reports of adverse reactions reported to the TGA right here in Australia.

The ones who spent their time filling in the reports, seemingly averaging over an hour for each report they are mostly liars according to you.

I don't think so, but you are entitled to your theory.


D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

13 Apr 2024 10:25pm
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Pcdefender said..

D3 said..
So, PC. Where are all the people with serious adverse reactions?




Well, there's a hundred and forty thousand reports of adverse reactions reported to the TGA right here in Australia.

The ones who spent their time filling in the reports, seemingly averaging over an hour for each report they are mostly liars according to you.

I don't think so, but you are entitled to your theory.




Wait, you mean the 140,000 reports that are readily available and actually have been mentioned in MSM?

Where's the suppression?

And where'd you get the idea I think they're lying?

I just don't think 0.2% is particularly common
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

13 Apr 2024 10:44pm
They mention a national scandal a few times and then still push the vax.

Nothing to see here just move on.
D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

13 Apr 2024 10:51pm
You gonna answer a question?
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

13 Apr 2024 11:05pm
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Pcdefender said..

Well, there's a hundred and forty thousand reports of adverse reactions reported to the TGA right here in Australia.

The ones who spent their time filling in the reports, seemingly averaging over an hour for each report they are mostly liars according to you.

I don't think so, but you are entitled to your theory.


Have you filled in an adverse reaction report? I have and it took 20 minutes. Individuals can report several adverse reactions (sore arm, sore joints, fatigue... none serious). But you continue to make stuff up. You can't even be bothered reading the TGA explanation of how their data should be used. You are a liar.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

13 Apr 2024 11:13pm
Getting personal AGAIN.

I do take the time to listen to medics and according to them it takes half an hour to up to four hours to fill in a covid side effect report depending on your computer skills etc.
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

14 Apr 2024 10:46am
My point precisely. You make claims without investigation. I made an adverse event report of three reactions so I could see what the process involved and then made informed comment. The minor reactions I reported were factual. You just make stuff up.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

14 Apr 2024 1:07pm
D3
D3

D3

WA

1516 posts

14 Apr 2024 1:21pm
Got any Flu and COVID numbers for 2022?
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

14 Apr 2024 1:32pm
The flue almost disappeared because most intelligent people were following guidelines and mandates. Social distancing, hand washing, masking... Things that medical prosessionals do to minimise spread if infection. The same reasons you didn't get sepsis and die.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

19 May 2024 2:38am
Japan's most senior cancer doctor: COVID shots are 'essentially murder' - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

I remember that party the elite had at a racecourse in England at the height of the fear campaign. One rule for them.

Let us never forget the lies.
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

19 May 2024 12:20pm
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Pcdefender said..
Japan's most senior cancer doctor: COVID shots are 'essentially murder' - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

I remember that party the elite had at a racecourse in England at the height of the fear campaign. One rule for them.

Let us never forget the lies.


You are a liar.

Hiroki Kino****a, from MHLW's (Ministry of Health Labour and Welfare) Pharmaceutical Safety Division, said in an email: "Currently, no causal relationship between COVID-19 vaccination and death has been confirmed under the Suspected Adverse Reactions Reporting System."
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

19 May 2024 12:59pm
You did not bother to take the time to listen to his interview.

I am surprised that the mods on here continue to put up with your constant abuse.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

19 May 2024 1:09pm
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Pcdefender said..
You did not bother to take the time to listen to his interview.

I am surprised that the mods on here continue to put up your constant abuse.


Maybe they agree with him? I don't know, but I suspect that they would be happier without any of this discussion.

Is it abuse if you were a liar and he called you one? I personally don't think you are one, but I don't think you care about any point of view other than your own.

Probably like most of us.

How did the Elite have a party at a racecourse without the Illuminati knowing it was on? Did they endorse it? Did they attend it? We need to know!


Edit: I just looked at that site you mentioned, and its no wonder you believe this stuff. That's all it peddles.

'Listen to his video'? He speaks Japanese. I don't understand Japanese. I guess I would have to read the subtitles, but how do I know its not a conspiracy and someone has put in the wrong subtitles and he is saying something different?

Now I know the website to use, I could sow all sorts of disinformation from that site. It's like the National Enquirer. Where are the articles on UFOs?
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

19 May 2024 1:47pm
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Pcdefender said..
You did not bother to take the time to listen to his interview.

I am surprised that the mods on here continue to put up with your constant abuse.


You are a liar.

"A Kyoto University spokesman distanced the institution from Dr ****ushima's comments, telling AAP FactCheck in an email: "The institution doesn't take responsibility for faculty members and their comments post-retirement." The spokesman also said he was not aware of any official investigation into vaccine deaths."
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

19 May 2024 2:12pm
So he did after all make the comments lol but the spokesman from the university said they the uni do not take responsibility for opinion of doctors post retirement.

Have you thought of ever becoming a politician?

You have a serious talent at skewing information.
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

19 May 2024 2:24pm
I didn't comment whether or not ****ushima made those statements. There's plenty of retired academics and scientists who have lost the plot. Dementia affects many people, including scientists and academics. I'm sorry to have to tell you that you lost the plot long ago and that you continue to lie, I assume to attract attention.
Pcdefender
Pcdefender

WA

1607 posts

19 May 2024 2:51pm
So he did in fact make the comments but according to your outlandish theory he has dementia.

This is too funny.
remery
remery

WA

3709 posts

19 May 2024 3:14pm
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Pcdefender said..
So he did in fact make the comments but according to your outlandish theory he has dementia.

This is too funny.








OK, I've been reading up on lying, and I may owe you an apology.

I now understand that pathological lying is a mental dysfunction that could be affecting you, ie ... "pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences. These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive. Pathological liars often make up stories, even if that causes them harm. They may lose jobs and ruin relationships because of their lying.?"

So, if you are a diagnosed Pathological Liar please accept my profuse apology.

If you a just a plain, ordinary attention-seeking liar, carry on.
psychojoe
psychojoe

WA

2239 posts

19 May 2024 4:13pm
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..
So he did in fact make the comments but according to your outlandish theory he has dementia.

This is too funny.









OK, I've been reading up on lying, and I may owe you an apology.

I now understand that pathological lying is a mental dysfunction that could be affecting you, ie ... "pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences. These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive. Pathological liars often make up stories, even if that causes them harm. They may lose jobs and ruin relationships because of their lying.?"

So, if you are a diagnosed Pathological Liar please accept my profuse apology.

If you a just a plain, ordinary attention-seeking liar, carry on.


I've got two pathological liars in my circle. The problem is they're both quite knowledgeable, but unfortunately everything they say must instantly be dismissed, as sifting fact from fiction is far too laborious.
westozwind
westozwind

WA

1416 posts

20 May 2024 1:08pm
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Pcdefender said..


You too can run your own report from the WHO website. Check out the one from 1995 to 2000. It would probably mean more if they had the flu strains prevalent at the time. not new strains. Stats are great.




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