If you are a taxpayer, there is very little chance the vax was free. You paid, just not directly.

A transference of wealth from the people to Big Pharma who in turn reap further sales down the line from the ill health it causes.

A bit like their other meds.

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A transference of wealth from the people to Big Pharma who in turn reap further sales down the line from the ill health it causes.

A bit like their other meds.

Like the antibiotics they filled you with to prevent your leg getting infected and amputated? I suppose there was a transference of wealth there.

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Pcdefender said..
A transference of wealth from the people to Big Pharma who in turn reap further sales down the line from the ill health it causes.

A bit like their other meds.

Like the antibiotics they filled you with to prevent your leg getting infected and amputated? I suppose there was a transference of wealth there.

Oh come on! Surely the effort big pharma made to ensure PM33 has a perfectly functional leg, was so that they could reap a fortune from him when he is 90 and needs arthritis medication!

Its a scam I tell you!

There must be close to a million plus docos out there that expose the Big Pharma scam.

Always will be those that believe their medications till their very last breath irrespective.

I can think of at least two on here.

Have you both taken your TGA recommended C19 boosters?

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There must be close to a million plus docos out there that expose the Big Pharma scam.

Always will be those that believe their medications till their very last breath irrespective.

I can think of at least two on here.

Have you both taken your TGA recommended C19 boosters?

People do jobs to earn money. People work in businesses to make money to pay their staff and make money for themselves.

What is so astounding about this that you think it is worth worrying about?

Pharmaceutical companies are like other companies and want to make money for themselves and their shareholders.

It is up to the rest of us to try and make sure that any company does not get too greedy and take advantange, but the chaff that you guys are putting out just makes it harder to recognise a real issue when it happens.

We had a pandemic that hadn't been seen for a hundred years. Whether it was natural or created does not matter. The only way out was to suffer the disease or try and get immunity.

The vaccinations were not free. These companies did not spend a fortune to produce something that might be helpful in the future, they only built on the research once there was a need and governments were willing to pay for it. If there was no money, it probably wouldn't have been done.

If there really are a million documentaries on Big Pharma scams, please summarise it for me and show me where it applies to the recent pandemic.

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Have you both taken your TGA recommended C19 boosters?

Of course. I had the latest booster before spending two weeks travelling around India. No side effects. No covid.

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There must be close to a million plus docos out there that expose the Big Pharma scam.

There are 2,920,000 scientific publications on covid-19 and vaccination listed in Google Scholar. But I suspect Google Scholar is a place you have never ventured.

Semantic Scholar has 1,250,000 results for covid-19 vaccination but it is limted to academic content.

If you'd like to talk about transferring wealth to medical scams.
The below "alternative" (not actual) medicine modalities all manage to transfer wealth from vulnerable people with the resounding promise of "may help" with mostly subjective symptoms.

If you're lucky, losing money is the worst that happens.

Reiki
Chiropractic
Acupuncture
Naturopath
Cranial sacral
Chinese Herbal medicine
Homeopathy
Reflexology
Applied kinesiology
Cupping


This is by no means an exhaustive list of SCAM (Supplements and Complementary/Alternative Medicine) practices that claim to magically work better than medicine.

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D3 said..
If you'd like to talk about transferring wealth to medical scams.
The below "alternative" (not actual) medicine modalities all manage to transfer wealth from vulnerable people with the resounding promise of "may help" with mostly subjective symptoms.

If you're lucky, losing money is the worst that happens.

Reiki
Chiropractic
Acupuncture
Naturopath
Cranial sacral
Chinese Herbal medicine
Homeopathy
Reflexology
Applied kinesiology
Cupping


This is by no means an exhaustive list of SCAM (Supplements and Complementary/Alternative Medicine) practices that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Damn I've been SCAMED ! But to be fair the professor of neurosurgery at CCUH was reluctant to perform the surgery and after he explained the procedure and the likely outcome i went looking for alternative modes of relief

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D3 said..
If you'd like to talk about transferring wealth to medical scams.
The below "alternative" (not actual) medicine modalities all manage to transfer wealth from vulnerable people with the resounding promise of "may help" with mostly subjective symptoms.

If you're lucky, losing money is the worst that happens.

Reiki
Chiropractic
Acupuncture
Naturopath
Cranial sacral
Chinese Herbal medicine
Homeopathy
Reflexology
Applied kinesiology
Cupping


This is by no means an exhaustive list of SCAM (Supplements and Complementary/Alternative Medicine) practices that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Acupuncture is definitely not a scam. My local sports physio used it on me and it worked a treat.

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D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

"Daniel David Palmer, who was born in Port Perry, Ont., in 1845, invented the field of chiropractic care. Palmer moved to Davenport, Iowa, when he was 20, where he took up magnetic healing. He also worked as a schoolteacher, raised bees and opened a grocery store.

Palmer was a spiritualist. He said the idea for chiropractic came to him from the "other world" during a s?ance where he communicated with the spirit of a doctor, Jim Atkinson, who died 50 years earlier.

According to Palmer, 95 per cent of all disease is due to "subluxations." In chiropractic, subluxations occur when one or more of the bones of the spine move out of position and create pressure on spinal nerves, causing all sorts of diseases by interfering with the flow of nerve impulses between the brain and the body."

Sounds legit.

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D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

Would you consider Jessica Ainscough's testimonial a positive one?

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D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

No, medicine as in actually treat a condition or even cure a disease.

Nothing much wrong with organic food, except the price. The claims it somehow massively better normal produce is yet to be backed up with evidence.

Oh wait, paying more for food for no reason, is that a scam?

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D3 said..
Wait....
You think that just because it escaped from a lab that taking precautions to prevent serious illness was unnecessary?

There was no lab leak, Remery already said it's a conspiracy theory.

If the government was serious about preventing serious illness they would mandate shutting down Maccas, bottle shops & crispy kremes, but take 8 boosters instead, you can still eat fried chicken out of a bucket driving your fat ass to the Dr for your next hit of Ozempic.

Oh, I must have misunderstood what you meant we'd feel foolish for being vaccinated against a gain of function experiment.

I agree, alcohol is a cause of more ills in society than we should accept.

But otherwise you make it sound like government does nothing to try help people with weight and health.
I bet you'd be surprised to know that people can be fat without eating fast food or donuts.
Also, obesity isn't infectious

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"Daniel David Palmer, who was born in Port Perry, Ont., in 1845, invented the field of chiropractic care. Palmer moved to Davenport, Iowa, when he was 20, where he took up magnetic healing. He also worked as a schoolteacher, raised bees and opened a grocery store.

Palmer was a spiritualist. He said the idea for chiropractic came to him from the "other world" during a s?ance where he communicated with the spirit of a doctor, Jim Atkinson, who died 50 years earlier.

According to Palmer, 95 per cent of all disease is due to "subluxations." In chiropractic, subluxations occur when one or more of the bones of the spine move out of position and create pressure on spinal nerves, causing all sorts of diseases by interfering with the flow of nerve impulses between the brain and the body."

Sounds legit.

Pretty much based the entire thing on curing deafness by adjusting someone's spine.

Funny no other chiropractor in the history of the"profession" has ever been able to do it again

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Nothing much wrong with organic food, except the price. The claims it somehow massively better normal produce is yet to be backed up with evidence.

Except those who eat mostly organic tend to live a lot longer as in a farking lot longer.

Ah, the evidence is not yet in from the experts confirming the bleeding obvious i hear you say.

Wake up and smell the roses.

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Would you consider Jessica Ainscough's testimonial a positive one?

She died suddenly. It was the vaccine.

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D3 said..

Nothing much wrong with organic food, except the price. The claims it somehow massively better normal produce is yet to be backed up with evidence.

Except those who eat mostly organic tend to live a lot longer as in a farking lot longer.

Ah, the evidence is not yet in from the experts confirming the bleeding obvious i hear you say.

Wake up and smell the roses.

Is it because they eat organic or is it because they have the attitude and mindset and desire to also eat an appropriate diet?

People who care to only eat organic also tend to eat more balanced diets as well as follow a lifestyle that complements the diet.

It's not the food itself is somehow magically keeping them alive.

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D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

Please provide some testimonials where the patient:
1- actually had a life threatening cancer
2- was not cured by conventional treatment such as surgery, hormones, radio and/chemotherapy

Eating a good diet will massively help especially when you look in most of the trolleys at your supermarket.

But those who eat organic age at a lower rate from my experience.

Of course, putting one hundred percent faith in their experts like you seem to do will blind you to the most obvious of truths.

Have you had your recommended TGA booster yet?

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Pcdefender said..

D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

Please provide some testimonials where the patient:
1- actually had a life threatening cancer
2- was not cured by conventional treatment such as surgery, hormones, radio and/chemotherapy

Male neighbour around 60 of my sister had a lump on his head or neck i forget.

He went to the oncologist and quizzed him on the cancerous growth and was not impressed by his response / knowledge.

He did his own alternative treatment mostly diet and when he went back for tests 6 or 12 months later, they were surprised if had disappeared.

My mate, since the age of 5, and I started windsurfing in 1982. He switched to kiting and used to post regularly on this forum. He was a vegetarian/vegan. He died of cancer a few days ago.

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D3 said..

Pcdefender said..

D3 said.. that claim to magically work better than medicine.

Medicine as in cut, burn and drug?

Surprised, you did not add to your list of alternative treatments - eating fresh organic food.

The Gerson Therapy have health clinics around the world using organic food as a way to heal.

The testimonials are positive.

Please provide some testimonials where the patient:
1- actually had a life threatening cancer
2- was not cured by conventional treatment such as surgery, hormones, radio and/chemotherapy

Male neighbour around 60 of my sister had a lump on his head or neck i forget.

He went to the oncologist and quizzed him on the cancerous growth and was not impressed by his response / knowledge.

He did his own alternative treatment mostly diet and when he went back for tests 6 or 12 months later, they were surprised if had disappeared.

Yep, clear testimonial here.
A random lump some random dude had just resolved by itself.

Did you know that lots of non-cancerous lumps resolve spontaneously?

He was told he needed treatment.

You and two others on here are blinded by FAITH.

Not FAITH in God but in their data.

Lucky I'm back. So many of you were wrong while I was away.
Why would remery mention no Covid in his post as though the vaccines would somehow reduce the incidence of Covid?
And D3 thinks naturopaths are a scam. They're about as good as dietitians. And if you think eating well is worthless, there's no helping you.