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FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..

FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..

Carantoc said..



Well thats a relief remery. It seems Premier Cook is a bit more relaxed than Dictator McGowan.

Nope!
It was dictator Cook who I wrote to personally to request the privelige of returning home to my house that I own and pay a mortgage on. His response was something along the lines of "COVID COVID GET ****ED JOE".

Oh, please tell me more. Were you locked out of coming back to WA at some point?

That's right.
In any other year that would be called human rights abuse. But nah, COVID! boom, Covid makes everything ok.

Oh no, I cannot help myself.

I got permission to go back to NSW to look after a house that had sat vacant during the pandemic. It took a few goes and rejections, but after I provided copies of everything to prove I was a WA resident and that the house was mine and empty, they allowed it. 2 weeks of home detention/isolation and I was free again.

But, you do recall that you complained about being a Vicco and couldn't go a few kms away to "hug your grandchildren" due to the lockdown, and then you moved to WA. Did you not notice at the time the clear border closures? You couldn't have missed it, it was all over the news, and you would have had to go through it all to get to WA in the first place.

Knowingly setting yourself up does not make something unfair.

Maybe you dreamed the whole thing? I submitted my request, not to 'Cook' but to whomever looked at this stuff, and when a police person finally accepted that I had a valid reason, they said "you are a hero FN, we need you for the conspiracy, come back when you want to". I came back a second time too!

So stoked for you. Your obviously more important than me and my GP who was also denied reentry 7 times (I hear it's important to have doctors around when you're worried about health).
Do you still believe that putting it on the news makes it ok to violate human rights?

At the time, there were genuine strict controls over who and why people get to enter the state, with the idea of protecting other people from possible infection.

What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits? The right to be protected from a new virus that was sweeping the world and killing people?

I remember having to navigate the process when there were restrictions. Restrictions that were changing each week or sometimes each day, based on where cases were detected.

At one stage, NSW was allowed into Victoria, only for transitting into SA. SA was allowing people into the state, as long as they hadn't been in certain areas in NSW in the last two weeks. WA was letting people into the state if they hadn't been in NSW in the last two weeks. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how to use these restrictions and get back into WA. It just took patience.

I met a woman that came back in her caravan and just parked up outside of WA for two weeks, and was then allowed entry. She had done the same thing and travelled via Qld and the NT.

I was lucky, when I drove back the restrictions had been eased somewhat.

But I wasn't sad at all for the friend that was complaining that she was missing out on her regular holidays to Melbourne. She had a choice; stay in WA where she was safer and able to have a pretty normal life, or go to Vic and accept not getting back into WA in the short term. She stayed in WA.

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theDoctor said..

you just keep telling yourself that champ

Ahh, it's just logic. How do you know when it's an 'early death'?


FN

Sent from mum's iPad ;-)

You won't know, you will likely just drop unconscious. But if your family are having an open casket, the embalmer/mortician will know when they attempt to drain your blood and pump
embalming fluid into you arteries.
These are not blood clots these are fibourous rubbery structures that never existed until operation warp speed.
I would be taking alot of tumeric that is high in curcumin to detox. Apparently Nattokinase and Bromelain also help clean the spike protein from your blood to detox these protein rubber structures or micro clots.

Surely you would accept that if you are being fed a solution, "tumeric", that if it were a genuine problem, people everywhere would be consuming heaps of tumeric?

I forget what it was exactly, but the science behind using Tumeric for all sorts of things has been debunked as well. It hsa been suggested for all sorts of problems.

TBH I would be surprised if there are any 'spikes' in any of us so long after vaccination. They should be a short term thing to create these spikes from the mRNA, in order to prime our immune system to recognise something that looked like Covid. It's impressive that our immune system can train itself to recognise antigens so long after the initial exposure.

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psychojoe said..

FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..

FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..

Carantoc said..



Well thats a relief remery. It seems Premier Cook is a bit more relaxed than Dictator McGowan.

Nope!
It was dictator Cook who I wrote to personally to request the privelige of returning home to my house that I own and pay a mortgage on. His response was something along the lines of "COVID COVID GET ****ED JOE".

Oh, please tell me more. Were you locked out of coming back to WA at some point?

That's right.
In any other year that would be called human rights abuse. But nah, COVID! boom, Covid makes everything ok.

Oh no, I cannot help myself.

I got permission to go back to NSW to look after a house that had sat vacant during the pandemic. It took a few goes and rejections, but after I provided copies of everything to prove I was a WA resident and that the house was mine and empty, they allowed it. 2 weeks of home detention/isolation and I was free again.

But, you do recall that you complained about being a Vicco and couldn't go a few kms away to "hug your grandchildren" due to the lockdown, and then you moved to WA. Did you not notice at the time the clear border closures? You couldn't have missed it, it was all over the news, and you would have had to go through it all to get to WA in the first place.

Knowingly setting yourself up does not make something unfair.

Maybe you dreamed the whole thing? I submitted my request, not to 'Cook' but to whomever looked at this stuff, and when a police person finally accepted that I had a valid reason, they said "you are a hero FN, we need you for the conspiracy, come back when you want to". I came back a second time too!

So stoked for you. Your obviously more important than me and my GP who was also denied reentry 7 times (I hear it's important to have doctors around when you're worried about health).
Do you still believe that putting it on the news makes it ok to violate human rights?

At the time, there were genuine strict controls over who and why people get to enter the state, with the idea of protecting other people from possible infection.

What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits? The right to be protected from a new virus that was sweeping the world and killing people?

I remember having to navigate the process when there were restrictions. Restrictions that were changing each week or sometimes each day, based on where cases were detected.

At one stage, NSW was allowed into Victoria, only for transitting into SA. SA was allowing people into the state, as long as they hadn't been in certain areas in NSW in the last two weeks. WA was letting people into the state if they hadn't been in NSW in the last two weeks. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how to use these restrictions and get back into WA. It just took patience.

I met a woman that came back in her caravan and just parked up outside of WA for two weeks, and was then allowed entry. She had done the same thing and travelled via Qld and the NT.

I was lucky, when I drove back the restrictions had been eased somewhat.

But I wasn't sad at all for the friend that was complaining that she was missing out on her regular holidays to Melbourne. She had a choice; stay in WA where she was safer and able to have a pretty normal life, or go to Vic and accept not getting back into WA in the short term. She stayed in WA.

It was a gross abuse of power - tyranny.

Thankyou once again for bending over. This message was brought to you by the NWO.

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....It didn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how to use these restrictions and get back into WA. It just took patience.

argh, now I see where I was going wrong.

The rules were fine because you didn't have to follow the rules. You just had to find a scam around them.

The rules were absolutely necessary to protect West Australians from mass extinction from an eastern states zombie disease - but also anyone was free to game the system to avoid actually following them. Both these things were quite correct and bang-on.


WA was in total danger from people entering the state - unless they snuck in through the back-door. Them sneaky people were no danger to anyone.

You do learn some interesting life lessons in these here forums.

On the isolation rules hotel thing there are lots of really sad stories of people not handling it well.

One i heard first hand was shocking but it never made the news.

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Pcdefender said..
You can sow a seed in many but FN and a few others on here appear to be lost souls.

Only they them themselves can extricate themselves from their false religion otherwise known in short as the MSM.

What's MSM?

Mainstream propaganda.

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Mainstream propaganda.

Oh I see l. Unlike you, I don't read mainstream propaganda, I prefer to inform myself through peer reviewed scientific journals..

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On the isolation rules hotel thing there are lots of really sad stories of people not handling it well.

One i heard first hand was shocking but it never made the news.

I spent a total of 4 weeks in hotel isolation, 2 x 2 week sessions when flying into WA for work. It was definitely different but not un enjoyable, got plenty done and watched some good Netflix series. I'd move all the furniture so I had a walking track around the edge of the room, 12000 steps a day inc some running before I could go to bed.


Some of our guys even got an Airbnb for the two weeks and had a whole house for themselves for the same cost. The company footed the bill for accommodation and our wages, easiest money I've ever made.


Woolies home delivery is brilliant.

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Pcdefender said..
Mainstream propaganda.

Oh I see l. Unlike you, I don't read mainstream propaganda, I prefer to inform myself through peer reviewed scientific journals..

It comes up again and again in theses pages, the most important source is that which others say.

Believe half of what you hear and half of that might be true.

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Flying Dutchman said..

FDA?! You can't even find an Australian meme?... Sad.

At least he can meme

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psychojoe said..

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psychojoe said..

FormulaNova said..

psychojoe said..

Carantoc said..



Well thats a relief remery. It seems Premier Cook is a bit more relaxed than Dictator McGowan.

Nope!
It was dictator Cook who I wrote to personally to request the privelige of returning home to my house that I own and pay a mortgage on. His response was something along the lines of "COVID COVID GET ****ED JOE".

Oh, please tell me more. Were you locked out of coming back to WA at some point?

That's right.
In any other year that would be called human rights abuse. But nah, COVID! boom, Covid makes everything ok.

Oh no, I cannot help myself.

I got permission to go back to NSW to look after a house that had sat vacant during the pandemic. It took a few goes and rejections, but after I provided copies of everything to prove I was a WA resident and that the house was mine and empty, they allowed it. 2 weeks of home detention/isolation and I was free again.

But, you do recall that you complained about being a Vicco and couldn't go a few kms away to "hug your grandchildren" due to the lockdown, and then you moved to WA. Did you not notice at the time the clear border closures? You couldn't have missed it, it was all over the news, and you would have had to go through it all to get to WA in the first place.

Knowingly setting yourself up does not make something unfair.

Maybe you dreamed the whole thing? I submitted my request, not to 'Cook' but to whomever looked at this stuff, and when a police person finally accepted that I had a valid reason, they said "you are a hero FN, we need you for the conspiracy, come back when you want to". I came back a second time too!

So stoked for you. Your obviously more important than me and my GP who was also denied reentry 7 times (I hear it's important to have doctors around when you're worried about health).
Do you still believe that putting it on the news makes it ok to violate human rights?

At the time, there were genuine strict controls over who and why people get to enter the state, with the idea of protecting other people from possible infection.

What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits? The right to be protected from a new virus that was sweeping the world and killing people?

I remember having to navigate the process when there were restrictions. Restrictions that were changing each week or sometimes each day, based on where cases were detected.

At one stage, NSW was allowed into Victoria, only for transitting into SA. SA was allowing people into the state, as long as they hadn't been in certain areas in NSW in the last two weeks. WA was letting people into the state if they hadn't been in NSW in the last two weeks. It didn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out how to use these restrictions and get back into WA. It just took patience.

I met a woman that came back in her caravan and just parked up outside of WA for two weeks, and was then allowed entry. She had done the same thing and travelled via Qld and the NT.

I was lucky, when I drove back the restrictions had been eased somewhat.

But I wasn't sad at all for the friend that was complaining that she was missing out on her regular holidays to Melbourne. She had a choice; stay in WA where she was safer and able to have a pretty normal life, or go to Vic and accept not getting back into WA in the short term. She stayed in WA.

It was a gross abuse of power - tyranny.

Thankyou once again for bending over. This message was brought to you by the NWO.

What does it matter to you? Did you need to leave WA during this time? It was a great place to live.

I am part of the NWO, so no need to preach to the converted

Isn't it great, even the worst criminal in the world would go down blaming someone else for the problems of the world. A conspiracy theorist is so focussed on the minor details that they think are a conspiracy that they probably don't even notice how things work in the real world.

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Just remember breezers, too much internetting with mums iPad after bed time can turn you into what THEY want you to be.

Who the **** wants me to be like this?!?!

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Brent in Qld said..
Just remember breezers, too much internetting with mums iPad after bed time can turn you into what THEY want you to be.

Who the **** wants me to be like this?!?!

Your question is well beyond my layman's understanding of the dark web and meme generated revenue. All I think I might know is it's THEY we should fear and it's important to drop occasional capital letters into communication to expose schizophrenic TRUTH(s).

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What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits?

Yes! Exactly! As stated here in article 13 of the universal declaration of human rights.

I don't like Trump mainly because I think what he says is dangerous. Could you imagine being in America now and some nutcase redneck here's one of Trumps speeches. The chances they attack some innocent person with the wrong accent are pretty high. Got me screwed why they let Biden run again though, there's some very intelligent people in America, surely they can do better

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FormulaNova said



What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits?

Yes! Exactly! As stated here in article 13 of the universal declaration of human rights.

Correct we should be allowed to move within our state borders. We did have internal movement limitations inside WA for a few days/weeks at one time. I did a 20,000km caravan trip during that period, did mean I didnt enter NSW or Vic (or Tas) but wasn't actually a huge inconvenience. I dop remember meeting a few NSW/Vic people who were just staying out of those states and driving in "circles" as they didnt see any point in going home. For me the biggest decision was to come back to WA via the north or south entries. Chose south as that wasnt as much doubling up. Just doubled up on the bit between Mt Isa and Tennant Creek.

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FormulaNova said



What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits?

Yes! Exactly! As stated here in article 13 of the universal declaration of human rights.

Correct we should be allowed to move within our state borders. We did have internal movement limitations inside WA for a few days/weeks at one time. I did a 20,000km caravan trip during that period, did mean I didnt enter NSW or Vic (or Tas) but wasn't actually a huge inconvenience. I dop remember meeting a few NSW/Vic people who were just staying out of those states and driving in "circles" as they didnt see any point in going home. For me the biggest decision was to come back to WA via the north or south entries. Chose south as that wasnt as much doubling up. Just doubled up on the bit between Mt Isa and Tennant Creek.

In Victoria, I wasn't permitted to go to Bunnings because it was 6 kms from my address.

The flip side being the concept that in a democratic society, the rights of the community should be safeguarded from harm by the actions of an individual.

Now we are running out of CO2

www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-01/supermarket-shelves-empty-soda-water-soft-drinks-co2-shortage/103532172

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The flip side being the concept that in a democratic society, the rights of the community should be safeguarded from harm by the actions of an individual.

You mean like how clean water belongs to everyone, so because fracking poisons it, it should be illegal. Now let me see, who was it that lifted the moratorium on fracking?
I guess some really can have your cake and eat it too.

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What are human rights? The right to travel on an airplane? The right to have a holiday somewhere? The right to go to Melbourne for a visit to family and then come back when it suits?

Yes! Exactly! As stated here in article 13 of the universal declaration of human rights.

Correct we should be allowed to move within our state borders. We did have internal movement limitations inside WA for a few days/weeks at one time. I did a 20,000km caravan trip during that period, did mean I didnt enter NSW or Vic (or Tas) but wasn't actually a huge inconvenience. I dop remember meeting a few NSW/Vic people who were just staying out of those states and driving in "circles" as they didnt see any point in going home. For me the biggest decision was to come back to WA via the north or south entries. Chose south as that wasnt as much doubling up. Just doubled up on the bit between Mt Isa and Tennant Creek.

In Victoria, I wasn't permitted to go to Bunnings because it was 6 kms from my address.

Well, I have to agree. The term 'state' really infers country when looking at the United Nations human rights stuff, but I don't think there is actually an accompanying definition. Even within WA, people were stopped from travelling to other regions within the state at one point in time.

But it's academic anyway as Australia could have an emergency event and change or suspend all sorts of things. If that's not enough for you, refer to Clive's attempt to enter WA. He couldn't and he can afford way more lawyers than I can. If his lawyers couldn't argue about freedom of movement successfully, what chance would you have?

Victoria was pretty heavily locked down, which I had to witness as workmates told me their only excursions were to Dan Murphy's. WA was surprisingly open but we still had distance limits at times, which some people sort of ignored when they went to their favorite sailing spots. It didn't bother me as my local is a couple of hundred metres away and funnily enough relatively busy.

Sort of funny in hindsight having to wear a mask out to the water's edge, then removing it and kiting for a few hours, putting the mask back on to then get to the car.

But, back on track, to see and read about these restrictions and then complain about them later is pretty lame. I was in a situation where I moved to WA before Covid in late 2019, and then had the house in NSW empty. It's not like I moved during Covid and then complained about my house being empty.

Psychojoe, you did this, and you knew the rules, so why would you then complain so much about your rights? Knowing that the rules were in place before you moved? I wasn't happy about losing a lot of money either, but plenty of people had it worse.

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Psychojoe, you did this, and you knew the rules, so why would you then complain so much about your rights? Knowing that the rules were in place before you moved? I wasn't happy about losing a lot of money either, but plenty of people had it worse.

Nope. Wrong again. The "rules" changed.
As many "rules" were not directed by the CHO,, they were simply arbitrary anyway.

The TGA has recently come out and recommended more booster shots for adults - sick puppies.

There are 140 000 reports of harm to the same TGA - go figure.

What happened to the Hippocratic Oath of first do no harm?

The harm these vaccines has done so far is off the charts high.

People are dying in obvious increasing numbers.

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Pedster said..
I don't like Trump mainly because I think what he says is dangerous. Could you imagine being in America now and some nutcase redneck here's one of Trumps speeches. The chances they attack some innocent person with the wrong accent are pretty high. Got me screwed why they let Biden run again though, there's some very intelligent people in America, surely they can do better

Hopefully those intelligent people will be advising Biden. He's smart enough to listen to the experts. Trump isn't.

The argument is moot though, Seabreeze is about to ban us all equally for talking about politics and COVID right?

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The flip side being the concept that in a democratic society, the rights of the community should be safeguarded from harm by the actions of an individual.

That's just woke leftist academic pedo crazy talk.

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Pcdefender said..
The TGA has recently come out and recommended more booster shots for adults - sick puppies.

There are 140 000 reports of harm to the same TGA - go figure.

What happened to the Hippocratic Oath of first do no harm?

The harm these vaccines has done so far is off the charts high.

People are dying in obvious increasing numbers.

Why do you keep lying about the 140,000 reports of harm? The TGA is very clear on how those reports should be interpreted.

Update: just got back from two weeks in India, four international flights, encountered countless people in less than hygienic situations. I'm fully vaxxed and covid boosted, no side effects, no covid, no illness at all.

www.newscientist.com/article/2418619-covid-19-vaccines-seem-to-cut-the-risk-of-heart-attacks-and-strokes/
Keep in mind it's only a sample size of 46 million though

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Why do you keep lying about the 140,000 reports of harm? The TGA is very clear on how those reports should be interpreted.

Not a lie.

Yes some have reported suffering numerous injuries, so the total number of people who have been harmed or claimed to have been harmed is still massive.

You seem unconcerned by this number.

It is estimated only around TEN percent of people who suffered injury after taking the C19 have reported it to the TGA.