Awesome stuff CF, always fun getting to know a new board and keeps the Stoke alive.

I've been cycling through a lot of different boards just to keep trying different designs, sizes, fin set ups and materials.

Just sold my Twin Tracker after an unbelievably awesome number of winter surf's. Will likely regret it but wanted to try a 7'0 CI mid that came up cheapish and brand new with a tail repair due to shipping. A ripper set of fins with her and a cover all for below $1k. And in my favorite colour, blue.

Anyone ridden a CI yet? Doing it as two plus one tomorrow when the conditions will be good in the morning. Supposed to hold through to Arvo and will swap out for FCSII Mod keels to see what she's like.

Fun fun fun.... Stay stoked.

Put in some Rasta keel fins and it was off to the races in micro peelers.
The reduction in drag from running quads made a solid improvement in paddling ease too.
This photo angle makes it look like the front quad boxes are too far up but they aren't.

Those Rastas are quite large so heaps of bite and drive. I reckon you'd like the Machado quad keels in that board. I found them just as fast as twins and with more drive and a solid feel to the rear.

I just tried the new JS keels in carbon fibre. Very slick and very quick, also very knifey and sharp.

Trying the FCS2 Mod Keels in the 7'0 CI mid tomorrow, hoping she goes well.

Keep us posted on how she goes with a few different fin combo's CF.

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How good is the blend of the cork deck pad into the rails? Should have gone a tad further up the deck for my hand positions on pop up so a couple of scrapes of wax to rectify that. I'll probably drop the board into Hugo and have him extend it with a couple of strips of cork...or just run with that little bit of wax.
My first couple of waves on it were at shoulder to head high Coolum bays on Friday and it was pitchy and hollow with most being closeouts. I took off with my foot placement a bit too far forward which resulted in one caught rail forward and a tail spin out on the next. I was starting to think I'd got it all wrong asking for the design elements in the board. Finally after being as patient as I could was able to snag a nice tapered wall instead of a closeout and made sure my feet were back enough.
I was shocked how fast it ran across a high line. The wide tail makes it so easy to keep the board planing on foam climbs and re-entries over oncoming sections feel so quick. High tide session (which is the board's real brief) this morning and the board planed easily across the flats.
So kudos to Hugo for interpreting all my design wishes into an fairly ecologically sound package that is fun to ride.

Managed to get my hands on one of Hughies boards for a look a few weeks back. Really nice work functional designs and really love the construction method... Definitely on my wish list...

Hope she's a keeper dude.

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Cuttlefish said..
Just add Logo!




How good is the blend of the cork deck pad into the rails? Should have gone a tad further up the deck for my hand positions on pop up so a couple of scrapes of wax to rectify that. I'll probably drop the board into Hugo and have him extend it with a couple of strips of cork...or just run with that little bit of wax.
My first couple of waves on it were at shoulder to head high Coolum bays on Friday and it was pitchy and hollow with most being closeouts. I took off with my foot placement a bit too far forward which resulted in one caught rail forward and a tail spin out on the next. I was starting to think I'd got it all wrong asking for the design elements in the board. Finally after being as patient as I could was able to snag a nice tapered wall instead of a closeout and made sure my feet were back enough.
I was shocked how fast it ran across a high line. The wide tail makes it so easy to keep the board planing on foam climbs and re-entries over oncoming sections feel so quick. High tide session (which is the board's real brief) this morning and the board planed easily across the flats.
So kudos to Hugo for interpreting all my design wishes into an fairly ecologically sound package that is fun to ride.

Managed to get my hands on one of Hughies boards for a look a few weeks back. Really nice work functional designs and really love the construction method... Definitely on my wish list...

Hope she's a keeper dude.

Thanks Andy, well being a small, alternative builds "brand" it won't have anything like the re-sale value or ease of sale as a big name board brand so it's a leap of faith for a serial board buyer and seller like myself. So far it's going very, very well.

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Cuttlefish said..

AndyrooMac said..

Cuttlefish said..
Just add Logo!




How good is the blend of the cork deck pad into the rails? Should have gone a tad further up the deck for my hand positions on pop up so a couple of scrapes of wax to rectify that. I'll probably drop the board into Hugo and have him extend it with a couple of strips of cork...or just run with that little bit of wax.
My first couple of waves on it were at shoulder to head high Coolum bays on Friday and it was pitchy and hollow with most being closeouts. I took off with my foot placement a bit too far forward which resulted in one caught rail forward and a tail spin out on the next. I was starting to think I'd got it all wrong asking for the design elements in the board. Finally after being as patient as I could was able to snag a nice tapered wall instead of a closeout and made sure my feet were back enough.
I was shocked how fast it ran across a high line. The wide tail makes it so easy to keep the board planing on foam climbs and re-entries over oncoming sections feel so quick. High tide session (which is the board's real brief) this morning and the board planed easily across the flats.
So kudos to Hugo for interpreting all my design wishes into an fairly ecologically sound package that is fun to ride.

Managed to get my hands on one of Hughies boards for a look a few weeks back. Really nice work functional designs and really love the construction method... Definitely on my wish list...

Hope she's a keeper dude.

Thanks Andy, well being a small, alternative builds "brand" it won't have anything like the re-sale value or ease of sale as a big name board brand so it's a leap of faith for a serial board buyer and seller like myself. So far it's going very, very well.

You might actually find the opposite, low supply often keeps the price high... I mean look how cheap it is to buy a 2nd Hand Christenson Fish, unreal boards and they're CNC now so they bash out a ton of them and they re-sell real cheap.

Let me know if you do look to move her, I mighty be interested

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Those Rastas are quite large so heaps of bite and drive. I reckon you'd like the Machado quad keels in that board. I found them just as fast as twins and with more drive and a solid feel to the rear.

I just tried the new JS keels in carbon fibre. Very slick and very quick, also very knifey and sharp.

Trying the FCS2 Mod Keels in the 7'0 CI mid tomorrow, hoping she goes well.

Keep us posted on how she goes with a few different fin combo's CF.

I would just stick with the Widowmaker configuration they supply. I have a few mates with these, really nice safe boards and they have experimented plenty and keep coming back to the 1+2 sidebites. True Ames and Al Merrick built the board and the fins in partnership so they are shaped to work together... and I reckon those guys know what they're talking about... Its also not ideal using twin tabs for twins, can be ok in shorter boards but I wouldn't on a mid, It places loads of stress on the fin boxes and those boards are glassed really light... They are making a twin version but they are fitting futures boxes instead. The only complaint I hear about those boards is the glassing, they ding and get deck compressions really easily but they need to be light to work apparently.

Average surfer ThickLizzy Review...

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Hydroman said..
Those Rastas are quite large so heaps of bite and drive. I reckon you'd like the Machado quad keels in that board. I found them just as fast as twins and with more drive and a solid feel to the rear.

I just tried the new JS keels in carbon fibre. Very slick and very quick, also very knifey and sharp.

Trying the FCS2 Mod Keels in the 7'0 CI mid tomorrow, hoping she goes well.

Keep us posted on how she goes with a few different fin combo's CF.

I would just stick with the Widowmaker configuration they supply. I have a few mates with these, really nice safe boards and they have experimented plenty and keep coming back to the 1+2 sidebites. True Ames and Al Merrick built the board and the fins in partnership so they are shaped to work together... and I reckon those guys know what they're talking about... Its also not ideal using twin tabs for twins, can be ok in shorter boards but I wouldn't on a mid, It places loads of stress on the fin boxes and those boards are glassed really light... They are making a twin version but they are fitting futures boxes instead. The only complaint I hear about those boards is the glassing, they ding and get deck compressions really easily but they need to be light to work apparently.

Cheers CF, yeah the std fin set up worked really well, but felt like it was lacking drive and missing a top gear.

Fitted the FCS2 Mod Keels and wow what a speed increase, but being that those boxes are a bit fwd of twins it was a little skatey.

Filed down the single into a keel trailer stabiliser and hey presto magic.

So fast that guys I surf alongside can't believe the sections I make with deep takeoffs. Great drive with the keels and stability with the trailer. Releases very nicely and predictably when you jam the back foot off the top or with a cut back. At the same time still draws a nice arc if you relax it a bit more.

It's a close race between this and the Christianson Twin Tracker 7'6. As a pure twin with a bit more length and glide I'd have to favour the TT, but I reckon the CI Mid in a 7'2 or 7'6 would trump it.

As for Glassing, mine must be a freak because it is strong as all heck. Way better glass job than the Christenson, the Christenson was a Rhino glass job so I had high expectations of it, but it would get a compression if you stated at it too long and too hard. The CI was supplied by the board store so whoever is doing their supply has it sorted. A mate has the same board in a 7'2 and it suffers the same as you described, seems soft and compresses easily.

As for big keels in FCS2 boxes, time will tell but so far so good. Pretty sure they will be ok as it has a fin area patch which really strengthens them.

Cheers

In my 40 plus years I've never heard you flew past that section used as a compliment.

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AndyrooMac said..

Hydroman said..
Those Rastas are quite large so heaps of bite and drive. I reckon you'd like the Machado quad keels in that board. I found them just as fast as twins and with more drive and a solid feel to the rear.

I just tried the new JS keels in carbon fibre. Very slick and very quick, also very knifey and sharp.

Trying the FCS2 Mod Keels in the 7'0 CI mid tomorrow, hoping she goes well.

Keep us posted on how she goes with a few different fin combo's CF.

I would just stick with the Widowmaker configuration they supply. I have a few mates with these, really nice safe boards and they have experimented plenty and keep coming back to the 1+2 sidebites. True Ames and Al Merrick built the board and the fins in partnership so they are shaped to work together... and I reckon those guys know what they're talking about... Its also not ideal using twin tabs for twins, can be ok in shorter boards but I wouldn't on a mid, It places loads of stress on the fin boxes and those boards are glassed really light... They are making a twin version but they are fitting futures boxes instead. The only complaint I hear about those boards is the glassing, they ding and get deck compressions really easily but they need to be light to work apparently.

Cheers CF, yeah the std fin set up worked really well, but felt like it was lacking drive and missing a top gear.

Fitted the FCS2 Mod Keels and wow what a speed increase, but being that those boxes are a bit fwd of twins it was a little skatey.

Filed down the single into a keel trailer stabiliser and hey presto magic.

So fast that guys I surf alongside can't believe the sections I make with deep takeoffs. Great drive with the keels and stability with the trailer. Releases very nicely and predictably when you jam the back foot off the top or with a cut back. At the same time still draws a nice arc if you relax it a bit more.

It's a close race between this and the Christianson Twin Tracker 7'6. As a pure twin with a bit more length and glide I'd have to favour the TT, but I reckon the CI Mid in a 7'2 or 7'6 would trump it.

As for Glassing, mine must be a freak because it is strong as all heck. Way better glass job than the Christenson, the Christenson was a Rhino glass job so I had high expectations of it, but it would get a compression if you stated at it too long and too hard. The CI was supplied by the board store so whoever is doing their supply has it sorted. A mate has the same board in a 7'2 and it suffers the same as you described, seems soft and compresses easily.

As for big keels in FCS2 boxes, time will tell but so far so good. Pretty sure they will be ok as it has a fin area patch which really strengthens them.

Cheers

They are actually testing an alternate version of this where they have changed the design to work specifically for a twin... buy hey, if it works for you thats all that matters.

As for the glassing, Rhino are consistently VERY good glassers but the Strength of the board is as much about the shaping, i.e. taking as little foam off the top as this is the strongest/densest foam but also comes down to the glassing schedule, what glass they are using and how many finish/polish coats are applied. The two Christensons I owned were absolutely bullet proof as is the Lovelace... Perhaps the CI you have, the original buyer requested a heavier glass job.

A proper midlength.
7' x 21&1/4" x 2&3/4".

Wow that board (andbackground) is super nice!

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A proper midlength.
7' x 21&1/4" x 2&3/4".

Not a fish guy but beautiful looking board dude... I really like his Hull model and also the Midlength model.

Sorry about the sideways pics. Don't know why they sometimes do that.

Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

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Hydroman said..
Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

That's a nice looking outline and rocker/thickness profile...

I just can't come at quads though, after years of experimenting I'm pretty settled on a Single fin all the way, set of bonzer sides when it gets bigger/hollower... Finally found the perfect set too after finding most too big or too much cant.

And much as I've tried I just can't warm to epoxy resin, just don't like the feel of it and it's a biatch to repair...

Should be a fun board though.

After a big clear out I've got 2 boards in the pipeline, one more complex being shaped for me and I'm about to hack out another backyard job, should give me a nice rounded 3 board quiver...

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Hydroman said..
Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

That's a nice looking outline and rocker/thickness profile...

I just can't come at quads though, after years of experimenting I'm pretty settled on a Single fin all the way, set of bonzer sides when it gets bigger/hollower... Finally found the perfect set too after finding most too big or too much cant.

And much as I've tried I just can't warm to epoxy resin, just don't like the feel of it and it's a biatch to repair...

Should be a fun board though.

After a big clear out I've got 2 boards in the pipeline, one more complex being shaped for me and I'm about to hack out another backyard job, should give me a nice rounded 3 board quiver...

It's only using epoxy resin, not a poly-styrene blank. It won't be any harder to repair than a "normal" board. So poly-urethane feel and repairability, with a bit more strength and stiffness.

I'm not a big fan of polystyrene either. Biatch to repair and it doesn't feel right under my feet. Also, with WA's wind and wobble, it doesn't help with catching waves.

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AndyrooMac said..

Hydroman said..
Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

That's a nice looking outline and rocker/thickness profile...

I just can't come at quads though, after years of experimenting I'm pretty settled on a Single fin all the way, set of bonzer sides when it gets bigger/hollower... Finally found the perfect set too after finding most too big or too much cant.

And much as I've tried I just can't warm to epoxy resin, just don't like the feel of it and it's a biatch to repair...

Should be a fun board though.

After a big clear out I've got 2 boards in the pipeline, one more complex being shaped for me and I'm about to hack out another backyard job, should give me a nice rounded 3 board quiver...

It's only using epoxy resin, not a poly-styrene blank. It won't be any harder to repair than a "normal" board. So poly-urethane feel and repairability, with a bit more strength and stiffness.

I'm not a big fan of polystyrene either. Biatch to repair and it doesn't feel right under my feet. Also, with WA's wind and wobble, it doesn't help with catching waves.

I personally find the Epoxy resin acts very different to poly resin, much less predictable to me but that might be lack of experience... Anyway, personally I just wont work with anymore but each to their own. Salty is the polar opposite, will only work with epoxy and he's much more experienced and skilled with this stuff than I could ever dream of being...

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that was a good laugh.

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thedrip said..

AndyrooMac said..

Hydroman said..
Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

That's a nice looking outline and rocker/thickness profile...

I just can't come at quads though, after years of experimenting I'm pretty settled on a Single fin all the way, set of bonzer sides when it gets bigger/hollower... Finally found the perfect set too after finding most too big or too much cant.

And much as I've tried I just can't warm to epoxy resin, just don't like the feel of it and it's a biatch to repair...

Should be a fun board though.

After a big clear out I've got 2 boards in the pipeline, one more complex being shaped for me and I'm about to hack out another backyard job, should give me a nice rounded 3 board quiver...

It's only using epoxy resin, not a poly-styrene blank. It won't be any harder to repair than a "normal" board. So poly-urethane feel and repairability, with a bit more strength and stiffness.

I'm not a big fan of polystyrene either. Biatch to repair and it doesn't feel right under my feet. Also, with WA's wind and wobble, it doesn't help with catching waves.

True drip, I love the PU blank but every PU blank board I have gotten recently was polyester resin finish and soft as all heck.

Conversely every epoxy finished board has held up way better even with EPS blanks.

But yeah the EPS Epoxy combo on any sort of cross was or chop is a dog. Way too light and wants to react to any and every ripple on the face.

Definitely like something glasses heavier for WA conditions. Hoping I've got this one sorted.

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Hydroman said..

thedrip said..

AndyrooMac said..

Hydroman said..
Just ordered from Grant....

Replaces the Fitzgerald 6'9" Cosmic Twin, Christenson 7'6" Twin Tracker, Channel Islands 7'0" Mid Length, Webber 6'10 Double Diamond, and Walden 7'8 Mini Magic.

7'2" x 21 1/4" x 2 43/64" x 48.5Lt

Single to double concave with vee through tail.

Fwd boxes set at twin position with trailers for quad setup.

Triple stringer 1/4" cedar centre and 1/8" sides.

Bevelled rails, hard edge to around half way up.

Thumb tail with flyers.

Glassed Innegra and s-glass top, s-glass bottom and Innegra tail patch, epoxy resin sanded finish, PU blank.



Hope she works well, taken elements of design features I liked from all above boards and integrated into this one.

Twin fin, thumb tail, bottom contours from Twin Tracker.

Quad rear position and board volume from Webber.

Bevelled rails from Waldon and Stewart which have worked amazingly for me (although Grant already does these).

Triple stringer, flatish deck, from Fitz.

Outline and rocker from Channel Islands.

Modelled into Grants existing Round Tail Flyer Mid length design which is already and awesome board.

That's a nice looking outline and rocker/thickness profile...

I just can't come at quads though, after years of experimenting I'm pretty settled on a Single fin all the way, set of bonzer sides when it gets bigger/hollower... Finally found the perfect set too after finding most too big or too much cant.

And much as I've tried I just can't warm to epoxy resin, just don't like the feel of it and it's a biatch to repair...

Should be a fun board though.

After a big clear out I've got 2 boards in the pipeline, one more complex being shaped for me and I'm about to hack out another backyard job, should give me a nice rounded 3 board quiver...

It's only using epoxy resin, not a poly-styrene blank. It won't be any harder to repair than a "normal" board. So poly-urethane feel and repairability, with a bit more strength and stiffness.

I'm not a big fan of polystyrene either. Biatch to repair and it doesn't feel right under my feet. Also, with WA's wind and wobble, it doesn't help with catching waves.

True drip, I love the PU blank but every PU blank board I have gotten recently was polyester resin finish and soft as all heck.

Conversely every epoxy finished board has held up way better even with EPS blanks.

But yeah the EPS Epoxy combo on any sort of cross was or chop is a dog. Way too light and wants to react to any and every ripple on the face.

Definitely like something glasses heavier for WA conditions. Hoping I've got this one sorted.

So... first thing here...
If you have a "Soft" poly glass job then thats on the glasser, its not the tech. Either means its been over sanded or glassed too light or can be an overshaped blank combined with one of the 2 prior mentioned or its been left out in the sun and that will spank em...

My Lovelace is 4 years old and PU/Poly, it's had over 100 sessions so thats 2000+ waves and its still perfect besides the damage i've done, even very few deck compressions... there are plenty of boards from the 70's and earlier that are still solid.

Next, epoxy boards don't have to be light. The advantage is that they CAN be lighter if you want but you can make it whatever weight you need, just change the glass schedule so its what you want... For me its a "feel" thing, which Salty tells me is all in my head... but if its in my head... well, its in my head soooooooo....

Take a listen to the Dave Parmenter "on Boards" series on Surf Splendor, Episodes 238-241 as he does a comprehensive run through on the pro's and cons of different techs... Ultimately its down to the individual and what feels best for you, what makes you happy and everyone's different.

This series is Rad but ep2... WOWSERS, get me to Morocco

My fish nosed diamondtail woody from further up this page is still the board of choice during this period of small waves. Put in these Tomo quads which work suprisingly well. The narrow base helps loosen up the initiation of turns while the paddle in the end of the fin helps it hold in the turn.

I have had a True Ames squirrel fin for ages that I haven't gotten around to trying and I picked up a bargain basement board so put it in that. Felt very positive despite the super flexy plastic sidebites.

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Cuttlefish said..
My fish nosed diamondtail woody from further up this page is still the board of choice during this period of small waves. Put in these Tomo quads which work suprisingly well. The narrow base helps loosen up the initiation of turns while the paddle in the end of the fin helps it hold in the turn.

I have had a True Ames squirrel fin for ages that I haven't gotten around to trying and I picked up a bargain basement board so put it in that. Felt very positive despite the super flexy plastic sidebites.

Those are some pretty wild shaped fins there, but I hear they go well...

I tend keep it simple I guess, pretty much the smallest Greenough 4a or Liddle L-Flex that wont spin out... but I have added the small bonzer sides recently and really like what they add when it gets bigger or steeper.