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kiteboy dave > 9 months ago, 5 Apr 2015

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kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

10 Dec 2016 10:46am

Hey Leigh, good to hear you're still on the path! You'll probably beat me to foiling.. I put myself under serious stress last season trying to get on the water to learn foiling and I got 6 sessions in a whole season, most of them with one eye on the clock. So I sold my spotz and I'll buy in again in a few years when the kids are more self-sufficient.

Yeah will be interesting to see some independent reviews of this one. It's fairly unique. I think gong had a carnard foil that was pretty crap. But it's Zeeko so...

kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

10 Dec 2016 10:53am

Wonder how it rides backwards, cause someone's gonna mount it backwards for sure..

Livit

542 posts

10 Dec 2016 9:56am

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LeighMajor said..
Hi Dave,still got my L plates on.So will keep trying to crack a good run.I asked Tony "Railing
If fuselage and foils of the Zeeko Spitfire can be retrofitted to the Black &white or Blue & white
Foils.The Wave foil looks like more of the surfboard feel.

Mast is the same however the plate of the Spitfire has angle therefore you will need the Spitfire specific plate... Now if you keep switching between the BW and Spitfire, it is gonna be a pain as you will need to carry around a torque wrench. Chances are that you will damage the thread overtime as well....

noodelsrominov

VIC

265 posts

10 Dec 2016 3:49pm

So I wonder if this will be easier for us twin tip and SB riders to learn on. The one thing I constantly hear and read is "put more weight on the front foot". I've always resisted the foil because of this complete different stance thing......

jamesperth

611 posts

10 Dec 2016 3:26pm

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Swavek said...
Thinking of getting into foiling:

Do you guys think this is a good rig to start on?

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Race%20boards/~v4xx_/2015-The-Kitefoil-Arrow-With-Pro-Race-Board.aspx?search=lH9XfdA4IG0gF2!fMCWhLQ==

swavek, that will work fine for learning. I bought the Liquid force foil fish to learn and outgrew and upgraded within 3 months - it was simply too slow and cumbersome to do anything other than cruise around at TT speeds.

Mind you, it did its job at its price point very well. It was a very stable platform on which to learn. That's Arrow foil is much higher performance so will need to be ridden faster than my old foil fish to fly, but otherwise will work. Your crashes will be more spectacular mind you !

kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

10 Dec 2016 7:03pm

Sorry no one answered you earlier, thread dropped out of sight too quick I guess.

Apologies to seller but i would definitely not recommend the rush randle foil in buy & sell section right now to anyone for more than a few hundred bucks as a novelty or piece of kite history. You'd be utterly mad to spend $1900 on it like they're asking.

RAL INN

2896 posts

10 Dec 2016 7:40pm

For those looking at the Zeeko Spitfire as a beginner foil the word is that it is different from normal foiling in as much as it is steered with rear foot pressure much as a TT or SB. Not front foot pressure as a normal foil.
For beginners this is probably no problem as it will be feeling more natural. For experienced Foileurs again it will be a relatively simple adaptation.
For those just mastering foiling and just getting the muscle memory worked out, it might present the most fun.

Swavek

396 posts

10 Dec 2016 5:49pm

Jamesperth and kitboy Dave,
Thanks for a word of advice. Could not wait patiently and ended up buying another one. It was a home job of a bloke who worked within industry using similar materials as hydrofoil. Supposedly it is a copy of spotz 2. there is another one that looks similar to what I bought on seabreeze:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Race%20boards/~vjlat/Fenney.aspx?search=Z6u0UKaz6SSP1bSDGFK8nQ==

hope it is good for learning.....

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

10 Dec 2016 10:22pm

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jamesperth said..

I bought the Liquid force foil fish to learn and outgrew and upgraded within 3 months - it was simply too slow and cumbersome to do anything other than cruise around at TT speeds.

Bah humbug

It's great fun carving around in "waves" and stuff. Seriously considering getting another one and a Naish Hover 130 board...!

daddycool

337 posts

13 Dec 2016 6:39am

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Swavek said..
Jamesperth and kitboy Dave,
Thanks for a word of advice. Could not wait patiently and ended up buying another one. It was a home job of a bloke who worked within industry using similar materials as hydrofoil. Supposedly it is a copy of spotz 2. there is another one that looks similar to what I bought on seabreeze:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Kitesurfing-Race%20boards/~vjlat/Fenney.aspx?search=Z6u0UKaz6SSP1bSDGFK8nQ==

hope it is good for learning.....

You'll love it - great board made by a guy who knows his stuff. You got a good deal too.

Bletti

163 posts

13 Dec 2016 7:15am

Yeah, Mark does good work. I learned on a spotz 2 and you should be fine on that.

Swavek

396 posts

13 Dec 2016 1:37pm

Thanks guys for your blessing, a bit disappointing I can't blame my equipment for my crappy progress

eppo

9762 posts

13 Dec 2016 2:17pm

3rd session in and I swear half way through it I thought I'm gonna sell this fckn God damn thing. Wind went off the boil, already have to spend half an hour getting out there, and it just wasn't happening.

Then I got up on the foil, and kept it there for a good 100m. Then the wind totally died back again and I'm not good enough on the 8m to make it work yet.

Far out Brussel sprout

mattkennedy

QLD

287 posts

13 Dec 2016 8:05pm

Switch make good foil

Kraut

547 posts

13 Dec 2016 8:10pm

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eppo said..
3rd session in and I swear half way through it I thought I'm gonna sell this fckn God damn thing. Wind went off the boil, already have to spend half an hour getting out there, and it just wasn't happening.

Then I got up on the foil, and kept it there for a good 100m. Then the wind totally died back again and I'm not good enough on the 8m to make it work yet.

Far out Brussel sprout

Only filming it and sharing with us will help you through this

Leighbreeze

556 posts

13 Dec 2016 8:25pm

Yep I was hoping for too much.Really like the look of the Spitfire.Probs suit the tts surfboard riders adapt slightly quicker.

eppo

9762 posts

13 Dec 2016 9:47pm

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RussKraut said..

Only filming it and sharing with us will help you through this

you sick bastard lol. There was a boat right where I wanted to try and tack into deeper water. I was so pissed off, shouing and cursing everything that essentially exists, then I noticed the girl on the boat had great boobs. Straight after that I did the longest foil ride. somehting in that maybe...

all i I know is you guys are a bunch of crazy masochists....

kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

14 Dec 2016 5:16am

^agreed

Spitfire + AirRace board has arrived at first real world tester.

Main wing is much smaller than standard zeeko carver wing

Kraut

547 posts

14 Dec 2016 6:04am

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eppo said...

RussKraut said..

Only filming it and sharing with us will help you through this

Haha. True. But see, that powder riding balancing act is attracting the good looking females. That is due to them knowing that foilers have an amazing core and huge amount of skills and are fearless. And of course they know that freestylers spend too much time watching their own vids, sb riders too much time at the hairdresser, and kooks in the kite shop. Shouting helps differentiating you from those who's core is a bit too developed

Cauncy collects pics if those I think

eppo

9762 posts

14 Dec 2016 6:19am

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kiteboy dave said..
^agreed

Spitfire + AirRace board has arrived at first real world tester.

Main wing is much smaller than standard zeeko carver wing

I wonder what would happen if we just turned our normal fuselages around ....

and russkraut, Cauncy will no doubt be like a pig in sh1T, drinking his Guinness on the back of his ute, laughing his ass off as I get smashed in the dongora ocean.

Kamikuza

QLD

6493 posts

14 Dec 2016 12:09pm

Apparently you can on the Zeeko foils--just turn the wings around.

RAL INN

2896 posts

14 Dec 2016 12:50pm

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Kamikuza said...
Apparently you can on the Zeeko foils--just turn the wings around.

Sort of only with the Blue&white 2015 model

Kraut

547 posts

15 Dec 2016 10:27am

Just got this little beauty. Will report more when I got her wet. Also with regards to suitability as entry level.

DukeSilver

425 posts

15 Dec 2016 11:43am

Noice. That's a sexy looking set-up. Kiwi brand?

Kraut

547 posts

15 Dec 2016 2:38pm

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DukeSilver said..
Noice. That's a sexy looking set-up. Kiwi brand?

Yep thanks, J Shapes, based in NZ. Almost too good looking to ride on it and possibly damage it.

dachopper

1802 posts

15 Dec 2016 2:47pm

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kiteboy dave said..
^agreed

Spitfire + AirRace board has arrived at first real world tester.

Main wing is much smaller than standard zeeko carver wing

I look at this foil, and all I can think of is the backwards man song from " Freddie got fingered "

bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

17 Dec 2016 6:40am

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kiteboy dave said...
^agreed

Spitfire + AirRace board has arrived at first real world tester.

Main wing is much smaller than standard zeeko carver wing

I wonder what it will go like with Carver wing?

RAL INN

2896 posts

17 Dec 2016 6:15am

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bigtone667 said...

kiteboy dave said...
^agreed

Spitfire + AirRace board has arrived at first real world tester.

Main wing is much smaller than standard zeeko carver wing

I wonder what it will go like with Carver wing?

There's always one that has to push it that bit more.

kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

19 Dec 2016 2:33pm

Ral Inn, zeeko distributor for Vic I believe, has done a good job gathering spitfire reviews here for anyone interested.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/Zeeko-Spitfire

RAL INN

2896 posts

19 Dec 2016 6:19pm

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kiteboy dave said...
Ral Inn, zeeko distributor for Vic I believe, has done a good job gathering spitfire reviews here for anyone interested.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/Review/Zeeko-Spitfire

We will have our own reviews soon.
And yes we are the Zeeko distributors for Australia and currently building a retailer network.
First cab of the rank is James's at Specialist Kiteboarding in Perth so you west Aussies have a local to ask all the hard questions now.

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