utcminusfour, yes it is the board that I posted CAD images of. Its 195cm x 71.5cm x 127 liters. I don't know the final weight, possibly Mark weighed it? At the moment its in the back of a friends van travelling from Perth to Melbourne......fun days ahead...

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mr love said..
utcminusfour, yes it is the board that I posted CAD images of. Its 195cm x 71.5cm x 127 liters. I don't know the final weight, possibly Mark weighed it? At the moment its in the back of a friends van travelling from Perth to Melbourne......fun days ahead...

I dig it! What's the biggest sail you intend to fly? I reckon you will be testing foils with this board and will try various styles of sailing. I noticed both a inboard and outboard back strap. That width is the same as the board I am currently building and it is narrow compared to race or free race setups. I keep going narrower with each board but I keep lowering my big sail size as well. I keep going narrower to lower drag while in the water and that allows a smaller sail so I find I don't miss the width in the air. What are your thoughts and logic on the width topic and what led you to choose these dimensions?

utcminusfour.......I have an old Stingray 140 which I learned to foil on. Its been a great board but as my skills have improved and especially as I have been foiling in stronger and stronger winds the board is just too big and gets blown around on the windier days. Also as I have been swell riding rather than chasing speed I found the 85cm just too wide and if I fly a bit low in a gybe or when carving a swell it grabs a rail.
So it was a matter of coming up with dimensions that will work for me on the very rough Port Phillip Bay. I was relucant to go too narrow as I want to be able to uphaul it in very rough turbulant water, I am old and unco so didn't want to make it too hard for myself. The very parallel rails are to reduce drag making it easier to get on the foil and the length was about not having as much nose to get blown around when its windy.
It arrived today and looks awesome in the flesh..I will strap it up and hopefully have it on the water mid week...I cant wait..

Hi Mr Love,

Mark built me a windfoil board as well (between 2Keen's and yours I think). I wanted a board like this for the same reasons as you. Choppy water, strong wind, etc.

What Mark has built has been great and I'm sure you are going to love it. I'm still in the 'working out settings' phase, though I think I'm starting to get there. A few cm forward / back on the mast base makes a massive handling difference, forward being 'safe and steady', and right back being crazy loose. At first I couldn't even get close to gybing it (mast base back), but now I'm starting to get them. Today was 50% success and a few more with a bit more than a quick touch-down.

I'm also a bit older (53) and uphauling isn't as challenging as I thought it would be. Favourite sails are the smallest ones, and the biggest I've used it with is a 5.6. That's a touch harder to pump up than the smaller sizes, so I think about a 6.0 is going to be the max? Love to be proved wrong.
The lack of forward volume is also different and takes some getting used to, but it does become normal after a bit.

It's going to be a barrel of fun, especially in a decent breeze.

Simon when do we post the teaser pics of the proto?

DW nose and Terminator tail....

Rad as ......

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Mark _australia said..
Simon when do we post the teaser pics of the proto?

DW nose and Terminator tail....

Rad as ......

175 X 64
Flat tail with a tiny bit of nose rocker
looking good

Looking good

We want more!

East Coast version on its way






170 long 66 wide, 110 ltr.. Flat from front straps to rear. Minimal rocker, progressive bevel front straps to nose

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Mr Keen said..
East Coast version on its way






170 long 66 wide, 110 ltr.. Flat from front straps to rear. Minimal rocker, progressive bevel front straps to nose

Not so funny story, SUP in background is in for repair after multiple stab wounds with a large knife after now ex wasn't taken out for Valentines. Better not put a ring on that

Multiple stab wounds.Funny but yea bit scary!

What are the vital statistics of that board Mr Keen?

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Mr Keen said..
170 long 66 wide, 110 ltr.. Flat from front straps to rear. Minimal rocker, progressive bevel front straps to nose

Plenty of volume from mast track to tail (105cm)

Simon's little bullet coming along

Thats tiny

I'm Frothing

Board complete!!









Board is 180 x 64
Approx 110 litres
Its flat, top and bottom well a tiny bit of rocker at the nose
Swallow tail with hard rails for water release
I loved my last custom and only wanted to tweak a few things
The result is as I expected and more
Pops up cleanly and super loose, that was expected
The volume distribution in this board makes it easier to stand on at rest and even low speed on water tack's relatively easy that was kind of unexpected
Footstraps are on the centre line and compact and front of foil mast and UJ close (600mm) with the ability to go closer
Nailed it MOZ Customs
10/10 Mark

Can't wait to see some footage of you ripping on that bad boy!

Lovely design and execution. I was down in a rabbit hole elsewhere today and reading about some of the DW boards in winging that are working really well. A lot of similar thoughts - deep sides without a lot of angle and very sharp releases all around. I'm sure you really have the shape and placement dialed in as well from your extensive experience. All of us appreciate your sharing the pics with us and we're looking forward to it in action.

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KDog said..
Can't wait to see some footage of you ripping on that bad boy!

12 knot easterly when Simon was out on the maiden cruise this morning - board look epic. Super job Mark

Quick edit with iPhone

Great looking board and nice riding

Congrats Gents another sic custom!
Simon, how about some pics of the old and new board side by side and your comments on the things ya changed and why?
It looks like you could shave with those rails! And it looks like you added some volume up forward?
JJ thanks for the video and the uphaul footage, Simon makes it look easy!

Awesome board and riding !!. Looks good uphauling too. I could see myself hitting one of those poles

Clew first 360 was pretty cool!

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utcminusfour said..
Congrats Gents another sic custom!
Simon, how about some pics of the old and new board side by side and your comments on the things ya changed and why?
It looks like you could shave with those rails! And it looks like you added some volume up forward?
JJ thanks for the video and the uphaul footage, Simon makes it look easy!

I could talk all day about boards but I will try to keep it brief
Board is lighter thanks to some new construction techniques used by Mark
More volume in the tail and nose due to the parallel rail's extended further forward and aft. Less nose rocker which also added volume to the nose.
Width dropped from 66 to 64cm
Footstrap hole spacing spread to 175mm. For my style of foiling I don't need to be "locked in" like on a wave board and I find when doing short runs with multiple gybes the wider spacing makes it easier to go strap to strap
Front straps are on centre line for "looseness"
Mast track back a touch, I am a fan of a short distance between foil and mast. Makes things super reactive.
HARD rails extending a long way forward. I think hard rails make for early take off
While Windfoiling is similar to Winging Its not the same. This board is made to be loose, release early and ridden powered up. Not so worried about touch downs, this design handles small touches easily and catastrophic touch downs are always going to be catastrophic regardless of how much rocker a board has.

How much nose rocker does it have? You said it was low.

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mr love said..
How much nose rocker does it have? You said it was low.

From tail, 1m of flat then gradual rise to approx 50mm

Shhhh

Woh thats low, not sure it would work in the super steep Port Phillip Bay waves.

Its actually 60mm
Simon your straight edge might have been bit off
Stiill, yeah its flat
Gamble - but looks like its paying off, very happy