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Flying Dutchman said..

I knew it !! Formulanova is one of those men with lady pronouns. This explains her they themselves always being right even though scientific evidence is saying otherwise !

No, my hair is longer than that. And to be honest, I feel like a bit of a fraud. I have been vacccinated and had no issues with it other than feeling like I had a cold after two of the injections, and my Covid infection is like there is nothing going on. I am still showing a weak positive, but I got away with a slightly phlemy throat and nothing much else.

I feel like a fraud as I know people like you have had major problems from the vaccines, but there is nothing I can do about that. The same as I can do nothing about the people that were injured or died from Covid.

'Always right'? Well it's be a bit silly arguing about something if you didn't believe it. People need to come up with much better arguments than they have been if they expect me to agree with them.

Does arguing 'strongly/confidently' somehow make me wrong? I guess I could rely on memes and what other people send me to believe in a point of view, but that's just not me. I prefer to try and understand things. Throwing my hands up in the air and saying "it's a conspiracy" is just not me.

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Is this your way of telling me you didn't like me pulling apart your analysis of ICU admissions. Okay, I accept.

FN - Throwing my hands up in the air and saying "it's a conspiracy" is just not me.


Google The Hive Mind.

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Pcdefender said..
FN - Throwing my hands up in the air and saying "it's a conspiracy" is just not me.


Google The Hive Mind.

You don't even throw your hands up. You just send memes on from someone else.

Googling The Hive Mind is funny. I am almost certain I know what it will be about but you never seem to get that it could just as easily apply to you and your beliefs instead of whoever you are trying to apply it to.

Get back on gab.com, into your 'Hive".

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Hivemind

Someone that will agree to whatever a group of people say because they want to fit in and can't think for themselves

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Pcdefender said..

Hivemind

Someone that will agree to whatever a group of people say because they want to fit in and can't think for themselves

It sounds like someone that can't think for themselves would be one of those people that just forward on memes instead of constructing logical arguments to support their beliefs.

Hmmm... I wonder who forwards memes here without providing logical argument?

Bzzzzz..... Bzzzzz....

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FormulaNova said..
Is this your way of telling me you didn't like me pulling apart your analysis of ICU admissions. Okay, I accept.

I really hope I'm wrong in this whole discussion, I don't want to see anyone injured by the vaxs.

Formulanova
can you please provide us with what date and brand your last vaccination was ? Also dates you contracted covid ? With this information we will be able to determine whether or not the vaccine was effective. There's tremendous amounts of evidence out there to say the vaccines only work for 6-8weeks. Hence the need for "boosters".
Once information is provided we can continue to discuss it the efficacy of the jabs vs the mild flu which is covid in 2023

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Formulanova
can you please provide us with what date and brand your last vaccination was ? Also dates you contracted covid ? With this information we will be able to determine whether or not the vaccine was effective. There's tremendous amounts of evidence out there to say the vaccines only work for 6-8weeks. Hence the need for "boosters".
Once information is provided we can continue to discuss it the efficacy of the jabs vs the mild flu which is covid in 2023

Nah. I decline. Thanks for the questions though.

Stating 'Tremendous amounts of evidence" is not evidence in itself. But you are now saying that vaccines 'work' for 6 to 8 weeks?

Antibodies, t-cells, memory cells. It all comes into the mix. Have I had Covid recently and not even noticed it? Have I had Covid repeatedly over the last few months and each time it just added to the body's defence? Have I just some superior genetic resistance to Covid? (nah, that one is just pure BS.)

The only real way to compare vaccine effectiveness is blind trials, and we don't have them do we? Comparing people in society whether vaccinated or not has so many variables and is uncontrolled, so it proves nothing.

I am just re-thinking these responses... It has been more than 8 weeks since my last vaccination. What would that mean? Would it mean that in that 8 week period immediately after I had no chance of catching Covid? Does it mean that I would have a reduced chance of catching Covid? Would it mean that if I caught Covid that the body would be much better at fighting Covid? Would it mean that I had no difference in response to an unvaccinated person during those 8 weeks?

So, why 8 weeks? Does my body forget about the virus that it has seen and created antibodies, t-cells, and memory cells for?

Does the virus mutate enough that it gets into the body and the body delays its response because its not an exact match to the profile from the previous virus? Or does it get a head start as its close enough and respond better than it would without a vaccine?

All these questions and no immunologist on here to answer them!

But for the record, my last vaccination was with Moderna and was early July. The first time I have tested positive for Covid was the 28th of December I think. So far symptoms have been very very mild and I could have easily ignored them if I didn't bother to do a RAT test.

Someone texted me this earlier today.

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And so the cookie starts to crumble.
Daylight killers
The masks begin to fall off!
The Chinese biological laboratory in Wuhan is owned by Glaxosmithkline, which (accidentally) owns Pfizer!" (the one who makes the vaccine against the virus which was (accidentally) started at the Wuhan Biological Lab and which was (accidentally) funded by Dr. Fauci, who (accidentally) promotes the vaccine!

"GlaxoSmithKline is (accidentally) managed by the finance division of Black Rock, which (accidentally) manages the finances of the Open Foundation Company (Soros Foundation), which (accidentally) manages the French AXA! "Soros (accidentally) owns the German company Winterthur, which (accidentally) built a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan and was bought by the German Allianz, which (coincidentally) has Vanguard as a shareholder, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Black Rock, which (coincidentally) controls central banks and manages about a third of global investment capital.

Black Rock" is also (coincidentally) a major shareholder of MICROSOFT, owned by Bill Gates, who (coincidentally) is a shareholder of Pfizer (which remember? Sells a miracle vaccine) and (coincidentally) is now the first sponsor of the WHO! Now you understand how a dead bat sold in a wet market in China has infected the WHOLE PLANET!

Share quickly

I responded with a link to some Reuters factcheck article that disputed the message. I was then asked to investigate who owns Reuters. To which I sent back the following.



Yawn, these peasants are so predictable.

www.bbc.co.uk/ideas/videos/three-ways-to-spot-a-conspiracy-theory/p07j9sjk

A message to all those silly enough to still have any trust in them.

First Lady Jill Biden's New Year message to Americans: "Go get that COVID vaccine."


gab.com/Breaking911/posts/109616397221196317

"Gab is an American alt-tech microblogging and social networking service known for its far-right userbase. Widely described as a haven for neo-Nazis, racists, white supremacists, white nationalists, antisemites, the alt-right, supporters of Donald Trump, conservatives, right-libertarians, and believers in conspiracy theories such as QAnon,[6] Gab has attracted users and groups who have been banned from other social media platforms and users seeking alternatives to mainstream social media platforms. Founded in 2016 and launched publicly in May 2017, Gab claims to promote free speech, individual liberty, the "free flow of information online", and Christian values. Researchers and journalists have characterized these assertions as an obfuscation of its extremist ecosystem. Antisemitism is prominent in the site's content and the company itself has engaged in antisemitic commentary. Gab CEO Andrew Torba has promoted the white genocide conspiracy theory. Gab is based in Pennsylvania.

Researchers note that Gab has been "repeatedly linked to radicalization leading to real-world violent events". The site received extensive public scrutiny following the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting in October 2018. The perpetrator of the attack, Robert Gregory Bowers, had a history of making extreme, antisemitic postings on the platform, as well as messages indicating an immediate intent to cause harm before the shooting. After the shooting, Gab briefly went offline when it was dropped by its hosting provider and denied service by several payment processors. In 2021, Gab was among the platforms used to plan the United States Capitol attack on January 6.

Gab's functionality is similar to that of Twitter. Users of Gab can publish posts, initiate private chats, join groups, livestream and buy products. The company also maintains an email service, text messaging service, news aggregation website, advertising platform, web browser, and browser extension to allow commenting on third-party websites. In July 2019, Gab switched its software infrastructure to a Mastodon fork, a free and open-source social network platform. Mastodon released a statement in protest, denouncing Gab as trying to "monetize and platform racist content while hiding behind the banner of free speech" - Wikipedia.

Gab sounds almost as bad as Seabreeze forums for the anti vac Cooker nonsense.


Sad end to a water sports forum..

Biden is on video with his wife telling Americans to look after your health, to go get your covid vaccine and flu shot.

GAB is just the platform it was uploaded to.

What does gab.com have to say about liver diets and HGH dosing?

Are there any memes on this because I want to understand but I don't have the mental capacity to understand just a bunch of words.

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FormulaNova said..
The only real way to compare vaccine effectiveness is blind trials, and we don't have them do we?

Think you might have finally got there FN. This is the point everyone is trying to make.

They were never tested yet they were promoted as doing what they had not been tested for.

And we all got locked up until we all had them.

Even though having one made zero difference to the reason we all got locked up.

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TonyAbbott said..

Can you show us where Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

I think you will end up at an edited video. Much like taking the quote, "I am inclined to think that you are an idiot"; and editing it to, "I am an idiot."

I'm assume the edited quote is from over 18 months ago when Fauci actually said, "So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected. There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event."

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remery said..
Can you show us here Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

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remery said..
I'm assume the edited quote is from over 18 months ago when Fauci actually said, "So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected. There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event."

Let's break down Fauci's claims;

"So, low likelihood of transmission" - False

"...low likelihood of getting infected" - False

"When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms." - False

"...that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. " - False

"That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected." - False

"There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event." - False

That whole speech turned out to be misinformation based on assumptions with no long term data which greatly influenced Government policy around the world hence why Elon tweeted...

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Flying Dutchman said..

remery said..
I'm assume the edited quote is from over 18 months ago when Fauci actually said, "So, low likelihood of transmission, low likelihood of getting infected. When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms. And because of that, that was the accumulating scientific data that prompted the CDC to make that recommendation, that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected. There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event."

Let's break down Fauci's claims;

"So, low likelihood of transmission" - False

"...low likelihood of getting infected" - False

"When you do get infected, the chances are, you`re going to be without symptoms." - False

"...that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. " - False

"That`s the bottom line of that to get people to appreciate you get vaccinated and you`re really quite safe from getting infected." - False

"There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event." - False

That whole speech turned out to be misinformation based on assumptions with no long term data which greatly influenced Government policy around the world.

Can you show us where Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

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remery said..
"[..] There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event."

So after proudly being informed that Australia is vaccinated in the high 90% or whatever it was.... now with surging case numbers perhaps someone would like to revise just how "rare" that event is in reality...?

Cos that'd make all new infections ... breakthrough infections ... I guess...?

Still waiting for the peer-reviewed randomized controlled trials on lockdowns, physical distancing, school closures, masking NPI state-mandated measures too.

boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-receipts-on-vaccine-efficacy

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remery said..
Can you show us where Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

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remery said..

Flying Dutchman said..
"...that when people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected, whether they`re outdoors or indoors. "

Can you show us where Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

www.cnsnews.com/article/national/susan-jones/dr-fauci-not-shocked-breakthrough-infections-vaccinated-people

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Kamikuza said..

remery said..
"[..] There will always be breakthrough infections, but given the denominator of people who are vaccinated, that`s a very, very rare event."

So after proudly being informed that Australia is vaccinated in the high 90% or whatever it was.... now with surging case numbers perhaps someone would like to revise just how "rare" that event is in reality...?

Cos that'd make all new infections ... breakthrough infections ... I guess...?

Still waiting for the peer-reviewed randomized controlled trials on lockdowns, physical distancing, school closures, masking NPI state-mandated measures too.

boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-receipts-on-vaccine-efficacy

Can you show us where Fauci said, "When people are vaccinated they're not going to get infected"?

Formula nova has turned off notifications?

Fauci is an interesting one. The footage was removed from the web but in the beginning he was cautious and skeptical about the Vax. Obviously Mr. Very Influential got in his ear and then suddenly the science was settled. Same thing happened when it came to the EUA, it actually failed, but once again Mr. Very Influential settled the science with threats. So what we have is a couple of puppets who've put the wellbeing of their own families above that of the broader community.

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Kamikuza said..

Still waiting for the peer-reviewed randomized controlled trials on lockdowns, physical distancing, school closures, masking NPI state-mandated measures too.

scholar.google.com/

Tedros...


gab.com/Artraven/posts/109618755215744743