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remery said..

Pcdefender said..

What if I told you, your inability to explain it in simple terms, means you don't really understand it.

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psychojoe said..

remery said..

Pcdefender said..

What if I told you, your inability to explain it in simple terms, means you don't really understand it.

I think I have said something similar here about medical stuff.

If CO2 was really the problem they claim then why is there no ongoing campaign to stop fat cats like Bill Gate from flying in private planes polluting the earth?

The richest 1% pollute as much CO2 as the poorest 66% (msn.com)

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If CO2 was really the problem they claim then why is there no ongoing campaign to stop fat cats like Bill Gate from flying in private planes polluting the earth?

The richest 1% pollute as much CO2 as the poorest 66% (msn.com)

There is, sign up.

www.greenpeace.org/international/act/ban-private-jets/

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If CO2 was really the problem they claim then why is there no ongoing campaign to stop fat cats like Bill Gate from flying in private planes polluting the earth?

The richest 1% pollute as much CO2 as the poorest 66% (msn.com)

That one's easy. Like all things, people want you to do things, but in reality it is not always in their own personal best interests.

If I were Bill Gates I would be flying only in a private jet. But maybe not telling everyone about it, which is probably what he does.

If you look at energy costs in all places in Australia (I am sort of guessing this to be correct), in that your daily supply charge will be a significant part of your bill. Energy itself is relatively inexpensive. You need a certain amount of it, but there is not too much disincentive to use more and ignore efficiency.

It's the same with gas and water. The supply charges are significant. If they really wanted you to use a lot less they would be hammering you with the cost per unit and having no supply charge. Instead, you install all sorts of nifty devices and save a few dollars.

Has anyone else noticed that the lizards in their backyards are growing much larger lately?

It's old and probably not all that accurate anymore, but it does suggest that if you live in Australia you are already in the top end of town compared with the majority of the world income wise. Probs best not to throw too many stones until we collectively clean up our own act.

Kil tells the flock one story but does the exact opposite and at the sheep, well they still buy it because well they are....

Starting to make a lot more sense now.

That's a cool map Fangman, but there are the few mega rich skewing that average income for Aust. I wonder if the mean would be a better indication.

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That's a cool map Fangman, but there are the few mega rich skewing that average income for Aust. I wonder if the mean would be a better indication.

Median.

Update: Feb 2024 mean maximum for Perth was 34.6 degrees. That's 2.9 degrees higher than the climate average.

And it has got S F A to do with geoengineering.

In June you reckoned the May June temps were enough to prove....., ummm I'm not sure what you were trying to prove.
That anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist?
Because you thought 2 months of one year were cooler than average?

But happy to point to all the months and years where it's been substantially hotter than average and say "that's normal or at least not proof we're having an impact"

www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230819-hawaii-wildfires-stoke-climate-denial-conspiracy-theories

"Global sea surface temperatures are also at their highest ever recorded, data from the EU's Copernicus Climate Change Service shows.

The data shows February was 1.77C warmer than the pre-industrial average for the month, from 1850 to 1900, and 0.81C above 1991-2020 levels. The global average temperature for the past 12 months - between March 2023 and February 2024 - was the highest on record, at 1.56C above pre-industrial levels.

That puts the world temporarily above the 1.5C threshold beyond which, over the long term, the worst impacts of climate change are expected."

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"Global sea surface temperatures are also at their highest ever recorded, data from the EU's Copernicus Climate Change Service shows.

The data shows February was 1.77C warmer than the pre-industrial average for the month, from 1850 to 1900, and 0.81C above 1991-2020 levels. The global average temperature for the past 12 months - between March 2023 and February 2024 - was the highest on record, at 1.56C above pre-industrial levels.

That puts the world temporarily above the 1.5C threshold beyond which, over the long term, the worst impacts of climate change are expected."

I remember in the pre industrial era I used to wade into the ocean everyday holding me little thermometer and then studiously note down my findings taking great care because the comparison someone might make after I'm dead would be really important to me.

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I remember in the pre industrial era I used to wade into the ocean everyday holding me little thermometer and then studiously note down my findings taking great care because the comparison someone might make after I'm dead would be really important to me.

From 1850 to 1900 the global sea surface temperature was measured to an accuracy of 1/100th of a degree.

The industrial revolution, marking the advent of the industral age and the end of the pre-industrial age didn't occur until 1900.

Starting to suspect this is the gold standard of evidence based journalism on Faux News and the like.

"In 1724, a German instrument-maker named Gabriel Fahrenheit produced a temperature scale that now bears his name. He manufactured high-quality thermometers with mercury (which has a high coefficient of expansion) with an inscribed scale with greater reproducibility. It was this that led to their general adoption. Fahrenheit first calibrated his thermometer with ice and sea salt as zero. Salt water has a much lower freezing point than ordinary water, so he chose the freezing point as 30 ?F. The temperature inside the healthy human mouth was 96 ?F, and he established the boiling point of water at 212 ?F. He later adjusted his freezing point to 32 ?F, so he established 180 ?F between boiling and freezing which he measured at sea level."

"Thomas Seebeck, who was born in Estonia in 1770, is the person most closely associated with the thermocouple as a temperature-measuring device. In 1820, when at the Berlin Academy of Sciences, he had studied the magnetic influence of an electrical current. A year later, he announced his discovery that two different metals forming a closed circuit will display magnetic properties when there is a difference of temperature between the two points of contact. This, the Seebeck effect, is the basis of all thermoelectricity and led to the development of thermocouples for contact temperature measurement."

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"Global sea surface temperatures are also at their highest ever recorded, data from the EU's Copernicus Climate Change Service shows.

The data shows February was 1.77C warmer than the pre-industrial average for the month, from 1850 to 1900, and 0.81C above 1991-2020 levels. The global average temperature for the past 12 months - between March 2023 and February 2024 - was the highest on record, at 1.56C above pre-industrial levels.

That puts the world temporarily above the 1.5C threshold beyond which, over the long term, the worst impacts of climate change are expected."

are you going to vote yes to nuclear power

www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2023/december/nuclear-explainer




Key points
*Nuclear power does not currently provide an economically competitive solution in Australia.
*Lead author of GenCost, Paul Graham, says updated costs for a key project in the US have been found to be very high.
*The costs for small modular reactors (SMRs) could improve over time, but will be too late to make a significant contribution to achieving net zero emissions.

Costs for power generation
Using the standard formula for levelised costs plus the additional calculations specific to additional storage and transmission needs, wind and solar come in at an average of $112 per megawatt hour in 2023, decreasing to $82 per megawatt hour in 2030.

In contrast, based on the available updated cost data, SMRs come in at an average $509 per megawatt hour in 2023, decreasing to $282 in 2030. This projection shows nuclear SMR capital costs are almost half from today, but still well above the projected costs for wind and solar. "Nuclear costs per megawatt hour are calculated by converting the hard infrastructure costs into annual loan repayments, adding other annual costs such as fuel and maintenance and then dividing that sum by the annual energy output. Every item in the calculation has an uncertainty factor resulting in a cost range," Paul says.

Nothing peaceful about the protest when it causes chaos.

www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/climate-protestors-setanced-to-two-months-in-jail/vi-BB1k8TQf?ocid=socialshare&pc=DCTE&cvid=a581e51e86e64275b7ca89cdb4c72ca0&ei=56

www-pbs-org.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/climate-researcher-on-whats-causing-the-record-rise-in-ocean-temperatures?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17109065931283&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fnewshour%2Fshow%2Fclimate-researcher-on-whats-causing-the-record-rise-in-ocean-temperatures

They are reporting Rio hit a sensational 62.3 degrees today.

Sounds suss a bit like their other reporting.

"Simulations with individual forcings reveal that GHG increases are the primary driver of changes in SSTAC, with smaller but distinct contributions from anthropogenic aerosol and ozone forcing. The robust human 'fingerprint' identified here is likely to have wide-ranging impacts on marine ecosystems."

The emerging human influence on the seasonal cycle of sea surface temperature. Nat. Clim. Chang. (2024). doi.org/10.1038/s41558-024-01958-8

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They are reporting Rio hit a sensational 62.3 degrees today.

Sounds suss a bit like their other reporting.

I'd try to explain "heat index" to you, but you wouldn't understand.

For those readers who finished high school, "A heatwave stifling Brazil has set new records with Rio de Janeiro's heat index hitting 62.3 degrees Celsius, the highest in a decade, weather authorities say.

The heat index measures what a temperature feels like by taking into account humidity. The actual maximum temperature in the city was 42C on Monday, the Rio Alert weather system said."

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remery said..

Pcdefender said..
They are reporting Rio hit a sensational 62.3 degrees today.

Sounds suss a bit like their other reporting.

I'd try to explain "heat index" to you, but you wouldn't understand.

For those readers who finished high school, "A heatwave stifling Brazil has set new records with Rio de Janeiro's heat index hitting 62.3 degrees Celsius, the highest in a decade, weather authorities say.

The heat index measures what a temperature feels like by taking into account humidity. The actual maximum temperature in the city was 42C on Monday, the Rio Alert weather system said."

I hear you saying it was worse a decade ago. Have you been sooking about it for the whole decade or is this a new sadness for you

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"Simulations with individual forcings reveal that GHG increases are the primary driver of changes in SSTAC, with smaller but distinct contributions from anthropogenic aerosol and ozone forcing. The robust human 'fingerprint' identified here is likely to have wide-ranging impacts on marine ecosystems."

The emerging human influence on the seasonal cycle of sea surface temperature. Nat. Clim. Chang. (2024). doi.org/10.1038/s41558-024-01958-8

This is just rubbish activism pretending to be science