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decrepit said..
Peter doesn't, he thinks it's a lamp.

Damn, need to think of something even more outlandish.

The Earth is not getting warmer, space is getting colder.

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remery said..

As I have pointed out many times, the 1880s featured freakishly low temperatures.

If it hadn't warmed up from then , we would be in trouble.

And?

The 1880's were about 0.19 degrees cooler compared to the 20th-century average. The past 10 years has been about 0.8 degrees warmer.

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remery said..
And?

The 1880's were about 0.19 degrees cooler compared to the 20th-century average. The past 10 years has been about 0.8 degrees warmer.

Yes, we know this. Why do you think you have to repeat yourself. No one is arguing that the planet is warming. Sometimes it gets warmer, sometimes it cools down. From 1880 n, we are coming off a cold period, so, naturally it should get warmer.

Why is it a bad thing?

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psychomub said..>>>Why is it a bad thing?

Because it's getting very warm very fast, compared to the natural cycle.

And positive feed could really kick in with the antarctic sea ice disappearing.
This could lead to a shift in strange attracter. Then everything is up for grabs.

Do a bit of reading on chaos theory.

The global weather systems are definitely chaotic.

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psychomub said..

Yes, we know this. Why do you think you have to repeat yourself.

psychomb said.. "As I have pointed out many times,"
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Are you going to post the Jurgen Peder Steffensen video for a third time?

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Pcdefender said..

www.snopes.com/news/2022/07/29/weather-maps-climate-change/

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Pcdefender said..

Hey Oil industry stooge.

Heres the original BBC Tweet which your image was taken from the pillock who originally posted it.

Note the key wording "another scorching day AHEAD"

It's a forecast map

Happy Stooging

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decrepit said..

psychomub said..>>>Why is it a bad thing?

Because it's getting very warm very fast, compared to the natural cycle.

And positive feed could really kick in with the antarctic sea ice disappearing.
This could lead to a shift in strange attracter. Then everything is up for grabs.

Do a bit of reading on chaos theory.

The global weather systems are definitely chaotic.

Global weather systems are always chaotic.

Please post accurate examples of the speed of the "natural cycle" over the last, say, 500,000 years, so we know what you are referring to.

The problem is that the "doomer" climatologists are nearly always wrong.

We still have ice caps, we still have polar bears, the Atlantic hurricane seasons have become more benign ( rather than more intense...as predicted) etc, etc.

I vividly remember , a few years ago on the East Coast when we had all the bushfires and dam levels were around 30%. The climate doomsayers were loudly proclaiming that this was the "new normal" due to "climate change" and we would have to get used to water restrictions etc. Within a few weeks, it started raining, and raining, and raining... Dams overflowed and the bushfires were extinguished. The climate doomsayers didn't miss a beat and proclaimed that the rains and floods were now the "new normal". They have no shame.

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elmo said..

Pcdefender said..

Hey Oil industry stooge.

Heres the original BBC Tweet which your image was taken from the pillock who originally posted it.

Note the key wording "another scorching day AHEAD"

It's a forecast map

Happy Stooging

Yes, it is a few degrees warmer than usual. So what? It's still cooler than the Medieval Warm Period. Did all life on earth end then?

Why do you expect to live on a planet where the climate doesn't change from time to time?

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psychomub said.. >>> Global weather systems are always chaotic.

Yes, that's the problem!

A small change can cause a sudden tipping into an entirely different pattern.
It hasn't happened yet, so lets hope it doesn't

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decrepit said..

psychomub said.. >>> Global weather systems are always chaotic.

Yes, that's the problem!

A small change can cause a sudden tipping into an entirely different pattern.
It hasn't happened yet, so lets hope it doesn't

No, it's not a problem. Chaotic is the natural state of the climate, hence the difficulty in predicting the future.

When has a "small change" tipped us into an entirely different pattern?

Please give recent examples.

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psychomub said..

No, it's not a problem. Chaotic is the natural state of the climate, hence the difficulty in predicting the future.

When has a "small change" tipped us into an entirely different pattern?

Please give recent examples.

"... Well we know from the sudden climate changes in the past is that these abrupt changes represent a reconfiguration of the entire atmospheric pattern. What if with the emission of greenhouse gases, that we trigger a situation when this system all of a sudden goes into a feedback? If you reconfigure the transport patterns of high pressures and low pressure systems over North America and for instance Europe, but particularly in North America and the Midwest, and all of a sudden it stops to rain".

Jorgen Peder Steffensen, of Denmark's Niels Bohr Institute, is one of the most experienced experts in ice core analysis, in both Greenland and Antarctica. Dr. Steffensen explained to videographer Peter Sinclair his concerns about possible abrupt climate changes.

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Pcdefender said..

For the last 2 months it seems Perth has been freezing. May and June have average max temperatures of 22.3 and 19.5 yet nearly every day it seems the max has been around 17C.

Can we revisit your claim that May in Perth was colder than average?

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No, it's not a problem. Chaotic is the natural state of the climate, hence the difficulty in predicting the future.

When has a "small change" tipped us into an entirely different pattern?

Please give recent examples.

That's why I said to read up on chaos theory, you obviously have no understanding of it's relevance.

There's obviously been no recent examples. we've been in the one strange attractor for a quiet a while now.

rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/what-the-ipcc-actually-says-about

interesting , remember rcp8.5 means burning 6.5 times more coal by 2100 than we do now.Not likely.

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Feverish BBC Reporting on European 'Heatwaves' Debunked by Actual Temperature Readings - The Daily Sceptic

Last week's heatwaves in southern Europe would have been "virtually impossible" without humans altering the climate, reports the BBC, quoting model-produced work rushed to press by World Weather Attribution (WWA). Humans caused the spell of Mediterranean summer heat to be 2.5?C higher, it was said. This latest study confirms what we knew before, says frequent BBC contributor and WWA founder Dr. Friederike Otto. More to the point, last week's coverage of these heatwaves confirmed what we knew before - the BBC will pull out all the stops to promote weather fear in the cause of the collectivist Net Zero project.On Tuesday July 18th the BBC reported on its rolling news feed that the island of Sardinia was expected to see a high of 46?C in the afternoon "and there are warnings that extreme heat could continue for a further 10 days".

Time and Date compiles comprehensive records of past temperatures, an increasingly useful tool for checking up on 'World on Fire' fantasists. The graph above shows the temperature in Sardinia peaking at 40?C on July 18th and then steadily falling during the week to the lower 30s.

Obama didnt get the memo he has 2 multi million dollar beach houses.

Climate tipping points - too risky to bet against

"We think that the evidence from tipping points alone suggests we are in a state of planetary emergency, where both the risk and urgency of the situation are acute (see: Defining emergency). We argue that the intervention time left to prevent tipping may already have shrunk towards zero, whereas the reaction time to achieve net zero emissions is at best 30 years. Hence we may already have lost control of whether tipping happens. A saving grace is that the rate at which damage accumulates from tipping - and hence the risk posed - may still be somewhat under our control. The stability and resilience of our planet is in peril, and international action - not just words - has to reflect this."

Defining emergency We define emergency (E) as the product of risk and urgency. Risk (R) is defined by insurers as probability (p) times damage (D). Urgency (U) is defined in emergency situations as reaction time to an alert (?) divided by intervention time left to avoid a bad outcome (T). Thus: E = R x U = p x D x ? / T. The situation is an emergency if both risk and urgency are high. If reaction time is longer than the intervention time left (?/T>1) we have lost control.

Nature Journal
www.nature.com
by TM Lenton ? 2019 ? Cited by 1487

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psychomub said..
Time and Date compiles comprehensive records of past temperatures, an increasingly useful tool for checking up on 'World on Fire' fantasists. The graph above shows the temperature in Sardinia peaking at 40?C on July 18th and then steadily falling during the week to the lower 30s.

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remery said..

psychomub said..
Time and Date compiles comprehensive records of past temperatures, an increasingly useful tool for checking up on 'World on Fire' fantasists. The graph above shows the temperature in Sardinia peaking at 40?C on July 18th and then steadily falling during the week to the lower 30s.

Lamia in Greeece had a record high of 47 degrees - in1977. Souda 44 in 1973, Heraklion 41 in 1963, Diagora 42 in 1958.

Oh look. Another hot year in a hot place in summer.

It's not climate change that's causing heat waves this summer but no one wants to explain why | Fox News (ampproject.org)
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Every summer, heat waves inevitably hit the U.S. and other parts of the world, causing climate alarmists and left-leaning media outlets to demand dramatic, disastrous changes to the global energy system. Unfortunately, this summer is no different. On Tuesday, U.S. media outlets published a wave of stories about supposedly "historic" heat waves in Europe and North America. For example, The Washington Post published an article titled "Heat waves in U.S., Europe 'virtually impossible' without climate change, study finds." Similarly, Axios published a story titled "Historic and enduring U.S. heat wave, by the numbers."

Government researchers have been tracking heat waves for more than 100 years. According to data from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program, which is made available by the Environmental Protection Agency, the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years. In some years in the 1930s, it was four times greater or even more.

They won't listen. Do you know why? Because they have certain fixed notions about the past. Any change would be blasphemy in their eyes, even if it were the truth. They don't want the truth; they want their traditions.
Issac Asimov