Pcdefender said..
Measuring temperature from GROUND level compared to 2 metres above is hardly climate change.

"A Cleverly Staged Hoax." .Former German TV Meteorologist Slams "Climate Hysteria" (notrickszone.com)

Pcdefender said..
Over 1,600 Scientists Sign 'No Climate Emergency' Declaration | The Epoch Times


International scientists have jointly signed a declaration dismissing the existence of a climate crisis and insisting that carbon dioxide is beneficial to Earth.

"There is no climate emergency," the Global Climate Intelligence Group (CLINTEL) said in its World Climate Declaration (pdf), made public in August.

"Climate science should be less political, while climate policies should be more scientific. Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures.

"A total of 1,609 scientists and professionals from around the world have signed the declaration, including 321 from the United States.

The coalition pointed out that Earth's climate has varied as long as it has existed, with the planet experiencing several cold and warm phases

. The Little Ice Age only ended as recently as 1850, they said.

"Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming," the declaration said. Warming is happening "far slower" than predicted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

"Climate models have many shortcomings and are not remotely plausible as policy tools," the coalition said, adding that these models "exaggerate the effect of greenhouse gases" and "ignore the fact that enriching the atmosphere with CO2 is beneficial.

" For instance, even though climate alarmists characterize CO2 as environmentally-damaging, the coalition pointed out that the gas is "not a pollutant."Carbon dioxide is "essential" to all life on earth and is "favorable" for nature. Extra CO2 results in the growth of global plant biomass while also boosting the yields of crops worldwide.

CLINTEL also dismissed the narrative of global warming being linked to increased natural disasters like hurricanes, floods, and droughts, stressing that there is "no statistical evidence" to support these claims.

"There is no climate emergency. Therefore, there is no cause for panic and alarm. We strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy proposed for 2050.

Go for adaptation instead of mitigation; adaptation works whatever the causes are," it said."To believe the outcome of a climate model is to believe what the model makers have put in. This is precisely the problem of today's climate discussion to which climate models are central.

Climate science has degenerated into a discussion based on beliefs, not on sound self-critical science. Should not we free ourselves from the naive belief in immature climate models?

"Climate Models and Sunlight Reflection Among the CLINTEL signatories are two Nobel laureates-physicists John Francis Clauser from the United States and Ivan Giaever, a Norwegian-American. Mr. Clauser has made a significant addition to climate models to dismiss the narrative of global warming: the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds which, on average, cover half of the earth.

Chris 249 said..






So why did you post something that's completely untrue? The 1600 signatories are not scientists, as your first line claims. So why did you say it? When you write things that are completely wrong and so easy to disprove why should anyone believe that you have the ability to know right from wrong?

Only the most gullible people would swallow the claim that the signatories are scientists or professionals 'cause it's easy to prove it's bulldust. The second name I googled, Gordon Batt, does not claim to be a professional or a scientist, but he DOES try to sell fossil fuels.

The next name on the list is a retired lawyer - why on earth would anyone care what a retired lawyer thinks about a subject in which they have no qualifications or experience? Would you ask a scientist a question about law?

Go down a couple more spots and there's Geoff Brown, "organiser of a critical climate group". There's no evidence that he is a scientist or a professional, so why did you lie about him?

Then there's "Andrew E. Chapman, Expert on Rainfall and Flood Events". So why do you claim that he is a scientist or a professional, when there is no evidence whatsoever to back that up? Then there's Mike Elliott; there's info about him on the web and he is NOT a scientist or a professional.

So it's easy to prove that your claim that the 1600 were scientists and professionals is wrong. Why did you make the claim? Did you not check the facts or did you lie?

philn said..









If it's on Truth Social you don't need to fact check it. They've hired the Babylon Bee as their professional fact checkers.

Chris 249 said..




So why did you post something that's completely untrue? The 1600 signatories are not scientists, as your first line claims. So why did you say it? When you write things that are completely wrong and so easy to disprove why should anyone believe that you have the ability to know right from wrong?

Only the most gullible people would swallow the claim that the signatories are scientists or professionals 'cause it's easy to prove it's bulldust. The second name I googled, Gordon Batt, does not claim to be a professional or a scientist, but he DOES try to sell fossil fuels.

The next name on the list is a retired lawyer - why on earth would anyone care what a retired lawyer thinks about a subject in which they have no qualifications or experience? Would you ask a scientist a question about law?

Go down a couple more spots and there's Geoff Brown, "organiser of a critical climate group". There's no evidence that he is a scientist or a professional, so why did you lie about him?

Then there's "Andrew E. Chapman, Expert on Rainfall and Flood Events". So why do you claim that he is a scientist or a professional, when there is no evidence whatsoever to back that up? Then there's Mike Elliott; there's info about him on the web and he is NOT a scientist or a professional.

So it's easy to prove that your claim that the 1600 were scientists and professionals is wrong. Why did you make the claim? Did you not check the facts or did you lie?

Pcdefender said..
You clearly are suffering from some type of Stockholm Syndrome.

They admit cloud seeding is happening to induce rainfall and block the sun.

Geoengineering its called.

I wish i had a dollar for every time you have called posters on this General Discussion liars

remery said..
A conpiracy liar at my local pub was telling me, just the other day, that the gubament was seeding clouds. He gave me a newsletter to critique and wasn't happy with my peer review. It wasn't you was it?

Pcdefender said..








You clearly are suffering from some type of Stockholm Syndrome.

They admit cloud seeding is happening to induce rainfall and block the sun.

Geoengineering its called.

I wish i had a dollar for every time you have called posters on this General Discussion liars

remery said..
The Conspiracy Liar's story about cloud seeding was that the gubament seeded clouds to deliberately cause flooding on the east coast so that they could buy back properties at less than market value.

Chris 249 said..







I call some posters here liars because that's what they are. Now that you are here, tell us why you lied and claimed that the 1600 signatories were scientists, when anyone who isn't a sheep can look at the list and see that many of them are NOT scientists.

There's no room for you to move here. Don't wimp out and try to run away from the question; it's too simple a query for anyone who is not a completely dishonest coward to be able to wriggle and slime away from.

Come on, tell us why you lied - or if you just swallowed a line because you were too gullible to check your facts.

Pcdefender said..









I seem to remember you also swallowed their science on something else, think the last 3 years.

Turns out their science was for the greater part a lie if not an outright lie.

They had every Tom, Dick and Harry pushing them including politicians, movie stars and TV celebs.

I remember Mr T pushing them and influencing kids especially, not with science but with blatant propaganda. Talk about selling your soul.

Absolutely shameful when you look at the harm it caused and is still causing.

Kids are more easily influenced by their hero's / stars.

If the last 3 years has shown us one thing its the science is often wrong.

Follow the money.

Pcdefender said..
Lol - still on your attack the messenger rather than the message strategy Chris.

Hate breeds hate so i prefer to stay away.

A digital social credit scheme with the public given carbon credits is surely coming. Once in place you will not be able to exit.

Aldous Huxley in his famous talk about the book Brave New World said the problem might be people will actually love their slavery.

Pcdefender said..

Aldous Huxley in his famous talk about the book Brave New World said the problem might be people will actually love their slavery.

Pcdefender said..
Lol - still on your attack the messenger rather than the message strategy Chris.

Hate breeds hate so i prefer to stay away.

A digital social credit scheme with the public given carbon credits is surely coming. Once in place you will not be able to exit.

Aldous Huxley in his famous talk about the book Brave New World said the problem might be people will actually love their slavery.

Pcdefender said..

I seem to remember you also swallowed their science on something else, think the last 3 years.

Turns out their science was for the greater part a lie if not an outright lie.

They had every Tom, Dick and Harry pushing them including politicians, movie stars and TV celebs.

I remember Mr T pushing them and influencing kids especially, not with science but with blatant propaganda. Talk about selling your soul.

Absolutely shameful when you look at the harm it caused and is still causing.

Kids are more easily influenced by their hero's / stars.

If the last 3 years has shown us one thing its the science is often wrong.

Follow the money.

Pcdefender said..
I seem to remember you also swallowed their science on something else, think the last 3 years.

Turns out their science was for the greater part a lie if not an outright lie.

They had every Tom, Dick and Harry pushing them including politicians, movie stars and TV celebs.

I remember Mr T pushing them and influencing kids especially, not with science but with blatant propaganda. Talk about selling your soul.

Absolutely shameful when you look at the harm it caused and is still causing.

Kids are more easily influenced by their hero's / stars.

If the last 3 years has shown us one thing its the science is often wrong.

Follow the money.

remery said..




Jibber Jabber.

philn said..







If it's on Truth Social you don't need to fact check it. They've hired the Babylon Bee as their professional fact checkers.

remery said..
"One of the most important factors that is driving the decline in corals on many reef systems including the Great Barrier Reef is increasing sea temperatures caused by climate change and this results in mass bleaching events which kills many of the corals that form the foundation of the reef itself."

Good to know that Jennifer Marohasy's colleague, Stuart Ireland, was involved in this important work.

Sublime said..










Compared to Snopes haha

www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/business/media/snopes-plagiarism-David-Mikkelson.html