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Subsonic said..
If you met Pete, you would understand why p&l isn't Pete. More than likely someone who misses Petes ramblings and the "discussions" they caused, so they've created a troll account to fill the void.

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decrepit said..
And if he comes back with a different name, it would only take a few posts to recognise him.
His style and beliefs don't change, he's always been just Pete.

OK, OKaay

It seems everyone (except one person) is an expert on the 30 year history of Seabreeze.com.au.

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myscreenname said..
Wouldn't work. Almost everyone here identifies as a vaccine expert.

Nah, nah.

It's not what you identify as an expert on, but what you are actually an expert on, as peer-reviewed by the seabreeze community and adjudicated on by a panel of expert experts.

I do realise this would mean some people don't get a tag.

Maybe those without a tag could get a participation award so their feelings don't get hurt ?

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decrepit said..
And if he comes back with a different name, it would only take a few posts to recognise him.
His style and beliefs don't change, he's always been just Pete.

The chances of that happening are....

You guessed right: 87.2%

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Carantoc said..

I do realise this would mean some people don't get a tag.

Maybe those without a tag could get a participation award so their feelings don't get hurt ?

Strictly using the Ancient Greek definition, we could give them the tag 'Idiot'

The ancient Greek understanding of an "idiot" referred to a person who did not actively participate in public life, forums, or politics. The concept emphasised the importance of active participation in public affairs, and those who did not engage were often viewed as deficient in some regard.

paraphrased from greekreporter.com/2024/06/17/word-idiot-ancient-greek/

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fangman said..

Strictly using the Ancient Greek definition, we could give them the tag 'Idiot'

The ancient Greek understanding of an "idiot" referred to a person who did not actively participate in public life, forums, or politics. It comes from the Greek noun ??????? idi?t?s 'a private person, an individual'. The concept emphasised the importance of active participation in public affairs, and those who did not engage were often viewed as deficient in some regard.

paraphrased from greekreporter.com/2024/06/17/word-idiot-ancient-greek/

We need someone to step up, with a solid business plan to approach Laurie, and volunteer to modernize the Seabreeze website.

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remery said..

Carantoc said..

Hey remery,

Just to note - nope, that does not concern me one little bit. Carantoc's concern level on that subject is 0/10, and that is at best.

In fact, I spent the whole of yesterday not even giving it one iota of thought.

Hey Croutontoc, you need to know that Remery was not replying to you. Remery is a busy man and he has little time to concern himself with minedless diatribe.

Baaaahhhhhahaha ****n croutontoc!!
I like the tag / flare implementation

It was easy enough to have signatures etc on this forum

But we need to make a very clear rule the only way this works is your not allowed to choose your own flair.

Its a continual rolling vote that you cant partake in. Only other members can.

Remove the red thumbs laurie and we introduce something far far worse

Viva le revolution

Can a mod make a poll thread for flare

Also ****n abominator that brings me back some forum memorys

Such a shame my completely obvious drunken 10 page rants with stream of consciousness where punctuations should have been cant really exist anymore because i dont have a keyboard anymore

But im getting there ill come back one day in a month when they reduce the prices of laptops whwn the 50s hit

Guess only thing id be an expert on is comercial construction oh and clouds oh and being homeless and gilles peterson worldwide radio shows from the mid 00s

Expected flair would be woodbutcher or concreature actual flair probably ..... idiot


God damnit i swear i typed all this out before yas just said pretty much the same **** i re

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before i read everything and yas said pretty much same stuff

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Nah, nah.

It's not what you identify as an expert on, but what you are actually an expert on, as peer-reviewed by the seabreeze community and adjudicated on by a panel of expert experts.

I do realise this would mean some people don't get a tag.

Maybe those without a tag could get a participation award so their feelings don't get hurt ?

Yep that makes sense. If we had people self identifying themselves as experts in a particular field we would get contributors like FormulaNova self identifying as ecconomics experts.

Hundreds of thousands of forum users, built up over the thirty year history of Seabreeze would leave for more reliable platforms like myspace. The whole ecosystem would then lose credibility and collapse.

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God damnit i just ?hecked what comment of mine got the most green thumbs to see my specialty and its this one

Froth Goth said..
It just occurred to me thanks to your joke that the ancient mariners of old who believed manatees were sirens probably banged them while they were still in the net. I don't know why I assumed they took them out of the net first

Which now is making me wonder if that's why we think chick's in fishnets are easier ......

My flairs gonna be the manatee molester or something isnt it

Frothys touch and go massage and aquarium ?

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Sharkey boy said..

Yep that makes sense. If we had people self identifying themselves as experts in a particular field we would get contributors like FormulaNova self identifying as ecconomics experts.
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Sorry I missed this before, but thanks mate. I appreciate it. I feel validated now. PM33 used to do it by throwing in my name every now and then and it made me feel like I was a worthwhile part of the team. It is good to see someone else doing it now that PM33 has taken a bit of a quiet break.

I have to say that now I am back in Aus I am really disappointed with the kiting. It is just not windy enough this season. I want to be back on holidays again. If only I lived closer to the beach I could be annoyed by this season even more. Maybe I will go back OS and do some kiting or skiing for another month? What do you think?

"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

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"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

That reminds me of the official who told the farmer he could go where he wanted to after being warned not to go into a field. As he was running from the bull the farmer called out "Show him your authorisation!"

Health officialdom credibility would have to be at its lowest point since inception.

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japie said..Health officialdom credibility would have to be at its lowest point since inception.

remery said..
"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

That reminds me of the official who told the farmer he could go where he wanted to after being warned not to go into a field. As he was running from the bull the farmer called out "Show him your authorisation!"

Indeed. Every time a health official opens their mouth, all sceptical critical thinkers should question everything they say - especially those on the "Big-Pharma-FDA-NIH" gravy train . . . Or is it "merry-go-around"

I wonder if remery remembers the Victorian Chief medical officer Brett Sutton reluctantly admitting that the COVID-19 vaccines don't prevent infection and don't prevent illness as he and other industry shocks were claiming early in the pandemic and quaxx rollout?

I wonder.

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peacenlove said..

Indeed. Every time a health official opens their mouth, all sceptical critical thinkers should question everything they say - especially those on the "Big-Pharma-FDA-NIH" gravy train . . . Or is it "merry-go-around"

I wonder if remery remembers the Victorian Chief medical officer Brett Sutton reluctantly admitting that the COVID-19 vaccines don't prevent infection and don't prevent illness as he and other industry shocks were claiming early in the pandemic and quaxx rollout?

I wonder.

"False. Victoria's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton did not admit that COVID vaccines did not work. Professor Sutton said the vaccines were "not so good" at preventing infection from the new dominant BA.4 and BA.5 strains but that vaccines offered protection from severe outcomes for vulnerable groups such as the elderly."

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peacenlove said..

Indeed. Every time a health official opens their mouth, all sceptical critical thinkers should question everything they say - especially those on the "Big-Pharma-FDA-NIH" gravy train . . . Or is it "merry-go-around"

I wonder if remery remembers the Victorian Chief medical officer Brett Sutton reluctantly admitting that the COVID-19 vaccines don't prevent infection and don't prevent illness as he and other industry shocks were claiming early in the pandemic and quaxx rollout?

I wonder.

"False. Victoria's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton did not admit that COVID vaccines did not work. Professor Sutton said the vaccines were "not so good" at preventing infection from the new dominant BA.4 and BA.5 strains but that vaccines offered protection from severe outcomes for vulnerable groups such as the elderly."

False false. peacenlove did not say Victoria's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said that COVID vaccines did not work. peacenlove said 'Professor Sutton reluctantly admitted the vaccines don't prevent infection and don't prevent illness as he and other industry shocks were claiming early in the pandemic and quaxx rollout'.

Could you confirm remery, to the actual question at hand, do you beLIEve the vaxx prevents infection and illness ?

Yes or no will do for now, follow question to come depending on response.

Maybe Peacenlove could provide the actual words spoken by Professor Sutton if he is expecting remery to provide a response accurate enough to meet Carantocs stringent standards.

Perhaps Carantoc should ask questions that aren't designed to trap the respondent into a weaker position on complex topics?

Or maybe Carantoc could give us a yes no answer to his own question?

I cant figure out if seabreeze is a classroom with no teacher or a classrooom where everyone is a teacher

"An unvaccinated child has died of measles in the United States - the first person in a decade to be killed by the virus there. The school-aged child died in Texas, which is experiencing its largest outbreak in 30 years of the extremely contagious disease. Top US health official Robert F. Kennedy Jr, who has promoted vaccine misinformation in the past, played down the outbreak, calling it "not unusual". That's incorrect, say public-health experts, who have decried a drop in vaccination rates that is leaving the country's children less protected. "This is a big deal," says pediatrician Amy Thompson "We have known that we have measles in our community, and we are now seeing a very serious consequence. ... Vaccination rates have declined nationwide since the COVID-19 pandemic, and most states are below the 95% vaccination threshold for kindergartners - the level needed to protect communities against measles outbreaks.Last week, Kennedy vowed to investigate the childhood vaccine schedule that prevents measles, polio and other dangerous diseases, despite promises not to change it during his confirmation hearings.The U.S. had considered measles - a respiratory virus that can survive in the air for up to two hours - eliminated in 2000, which meant there had been a halt in continuous spread of the disease for at least a year."

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japie said..

remery said..
"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

That reminds me of the official who told the farmer he could go where he wanted to after being warned not to go into a field. As he was running from the bull the farmer called out "Show him your authorisation!"

Health officialdom credibility would have to be at its lowest point since inception.

Death of a child from measles infection reminds you of a joke poking fun at officials?

Anyone else think that's messed up?

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CracknSack said..

False false. peacenlove did not say Victoria's Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton said that COVID vaccines did not work. peacenlove said 'Professor Sutton reluctantly admitted the vaccines don't prevent infection and don't prevent illness as he and other industry shocks were claiming early in the pandemic and quaxx rollout'.

Could you confirm remery, to the actual question at hand, do you beLIEve the vaxx prevents infection and illness ?

Yes or no will do for now, follow question to come depending on response.

Are you intentionally typing gibberish?
Do you know what dieresis is, and how it should be used for the international readers you are so concerned about?
Did you finish high school?Yes or no answers will do for now.

You need to understand that Remery is a very busy person; follow-up questions may (or may not) come depending on your responses. But Remery needs some evidence of rudimentary understanding of science and basic research principles.

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remery said..

Are you intentionally typing gibberish?
Did you finish high school?

You need to understand that Remery is a very busy person; follow-up questions may (or may not) come depending on your responses.

I got one question for you remery

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D3 said..

japie said..

remery said..
"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

That reminds me of the official who told the farmer he could go where he wanted to after being warned not to go into a field. As he was running from the bull the farmer called out "Show him your authorisation!"

Health officialdom credibility would have to be at its lowest point since inception.

Death of a child from measles infection reminds you of a joke poking fun at officials?

Anyone else think that's messed up?

Nice to hear from Kevin again.
In answer to his question.

Because measles predominantly affects kids.

Because the USA was declared measles free in 2000, and the last death from measles was over a decade ago.

The difference between zero deaths for years and 1 death in the space of a few months is significant.

I am guessing because Measles is run by an incompetent dictator who has minerals that can be exploited by Forrest Trump and President Musk.
(And Team Cancer is feeling miffed because for the age 45+ they have been DOGE's top performer for removing Americans from the economy for decades.)

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japie said..

Measles is preventable.
It mainly affects children.
It can spread to vulnerable children.
Measles can cause a long-term impact on children's immune system.
It clogs up the hospital system unnecessarily.

Regarding Kevin Bass, it's probably a good idea to pull your head in while you are a student.

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japie said..

D3 said..

japie said..

remery said..
"Health officials in Texas say the first death from a growing measles outbreak in the western part of the state was an unvaccinated school-age child. It's the first measles death in the US in 10 years. More than 120 confirmed measles cases have been linked to the outbreak in Lubbock, Texas, according to the Texas Department of Health Services. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17."

That reminds me of the official who told the farmer he could go where he wanted to after being warned not to go into a field. As he was running from the bull the farmer called out "Show him your authorisation!"

Health officialdom credibility would have to be at its lowest point since inception.

Death of a child from measles infection reminds you of a joke poking fun at officials?
Anyone else think that's messed up?

Japie, most likely because media hysteria sells vaccines.

Here's the sober, hysteria-free truth about measles. In 1962 the death rate in the USA was 2/1,000,000 - before the vaccine was introduced. All the vaccine did was reduce the infection incidence, not the death rate, which has largely remained the same.

x.com/BusyDrT/status/1894460610177634652


Oh and most damming for the vaccine alarmists is this, which demonstrates that the incidence and death rates fell dramatically before the introduction of vaccines. What is clear, is that vaccines played a role in preventing infections but had nothing to do with the massive decline in infection and morbidity in the 20th century:

www.cambridge.org/core/journals/epidemiology-and-infection/article/agespecific-measles-mortality-during-the-late-19thearly-20th-centuries/F4D013C76395921C5338067A0BD0278C

"Measles mortality fell prior to the introduction of vaccines or antibiotics. By examining historical mortality reports we sought to determine how much measles mortality was due to epidemiological factors such as isolation from major population centres or increased age at time of infection."


and

aaronsiri.substack.com/p/did-the-death-rate-from-measles-decline


and

www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf#page=93


But again, never let the truth get in the way of a good media frenzy and beat up.

Also, www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf#page=93, a seminal CDC report shows the massive dear ease in other infectious diseases before introduction of vaccines and shows the increase in prevalence of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in the USA.

But hey, that's nothing to worry about since we now have modern medicine! Vaccines saved us!

Praise be the God Vaxx.

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peacenlove said..
Also, www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf#page=93, a seminal CDC report shows the massive dear ease in other infectious diseases before introduction of vaccines and shows the increase in prevalence of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in the USA.

But hey, that's nothing to worry about since we now have modern medicine! Vaccines saved us!

Praise be the God Vaxx.

Yeah, who would have thought that if we weren't dying from preventable things that cancer and heart disease would be taking care of us down the road? What a surprise. Almost logical if you were to think about it for a minute.

By your logic we should all die from preventable diseases in our teens to save us from dying from heart disease in our 60s and beyond. If they cure those are you then going to argue that the guvmint have somehow increased the rates of brittle bones?

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FormulaNova said..

peacenlove said..
Also, www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsrates1940_60.pdf#page=93, a seminal CDC report shows the massive dear ease in other infectious diseases before introduction of vaccines and shows the increase in prevalence of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in the USA.

But hey, that's nothing to worry about since we now have modern medicine! Vaccines saved us!

Praise be the God Vaxx.

Yeah, who would have thought that if we weren't dying from preventable things that cancer and heart disease would be taking care of us down the road? What a surprise. Almost logical if you were to think about it for a minute.

By your logic we should all die from preventable diseases in our teens to save us from dying from heart disease in our 60s and beyond. If they cure those are you then going to argue that the guvmint have somehow increased the rates of brittle bones?

You've failed to grasp my point completely. Let me clarify for you in as simple terms as i can.

The CDC report confirms with raw data, that deaths from almost all communicable diseases were reduced to almost zero BEFORE vaccines were introduced, while at the same time, cancer, diabetes and heart disease were on the rise. The facts is that infectious disease reductions in the early-mid 20thC had almost nothing to do with vaccines, and that this occurred in the context of rising non-communicable diseases.

The vaccine Cult would like us to believe that vaccines drove this decline but that is a total falsehood. This falsehood is obediently parroted by many people.

This is because in my opinion, the public health measures of the early and mid 20thC like clean drinking water, proper sanitation and better nutrition were so successful and made us healthier and this was a threat to the petrochemical big pharma and symptoms-based medical systems taking hold. So other measures to make us sick again had to be taken, such as poisoning with pesticides and herbicides, replacement of natural healthy fats with oxidative seed oils, replacement of natural sugars with highly refined sucrose, fructose and aspartame (neurotoxin), convenient and easy-to-prepare highly processed nutrient deficient fast-foods and the adoption of the disastrous food pyramid, amongst other measures.

This is to protect the medical industry's interests - in my opinion.

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remery said..
Are you intentionally typing gibberish?
Do you know what dieresis is, and how it should be used for the international readers you are so concerned about?
Did you finish high school?Yes or no answers will do for now.

You need to understand that Remery is a very busy person; follow-up questions may (or may not) come depending on your responses. But Remery needs some evidence of rudimentary understanding of science and basic research principles.

No. Which bit is jibberish ?
Yes.
Yes, but seabreeze.com.au text does not allow it. But anyways not sure which word I typed is missing one.
Yes I did finish high skool.

Now your chance. Do you believe the covid vax prevents infection and illness ?

And to save you some time on follow-ups, when did you come to this decision and did it change or have you always held this position from when covid-19 vaccines were first talked about.