jirvin4505 said..
warning Rant... Long...

I've spent the morning considering a reply to the "stick to one board" theme....

I had similar conversations and advice ....
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Queensland/Cootharaba-Christmas/?page=1

So being a sailing friend of Morgan and going out with most of the local improvers....
Bob, Tony, Mal, Morgan,Pat and Anita i would say i'm pretty well in contact with the intermediate windsurfers in the local area. I share their struggles :-)

So why do we choose different boards and not stick with the one board?

We are all in contact with helpful friends offering advice when they see us struggling with our gear. In a way I feel responsible for some of the longboard choices being made within our group.

We are all in contact with the major shops in the local area - making considered purchasing decisions.

I am still sailing differing boards depending on the conditions - still spending time on the Go when i think the conditions are suitable. Still feeling frustrated....typically...

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Queensland/Sandstone-point-shortboard-development/

I've been with Morgan when he has made the decision to change boards... Its a choice "more time on the water" vs "more time in the water" or sitting another session out because of too little/much wind!!


Morgan and I have discussed the general dismissal we feel for the choices made, knowing that often the choices we make are so we remain in the sport.

Coming back into Manly beach to ride the SUP/Windsurfer after being trashed on the Shark for an hour is not a choice made easily; its made to keep the stoke of windsurfing alive after another humbling hour in the water.

Similarly when I've spent 2 hours schlogging back and forward or getting tossed over the handle bars I am more than ready to look for an alternate ride that is going to get me "on the water" rather than'"in the water" or "off the water".

Agreed this may be confuse the Learning Curve however other things are being learned. F2 comet-old skool slalom- in high winds...Waterstarts, Footstraps, Pointing my toes. Raceboard...Big sails.. Waterstarting huge cammed sails in rough water with gusty winds. Tacking and sailing downwind. Committing to the harness (aside.. Same sail setup on longbord I dont fall out of the lines whereas its still a problem on the shortboard)

There is also which "one board" do we stick with? I'm onto my 4th 'one board' to stick with. All changes have been made with advice from people coaching my sailing!


Morgan and I agree that there is development sailing and recreational sailing. This needs to be kept in balance, for us 'older sailors' starting later in life many issues conspire against us. We both are in awe of the progress made by Morgans young son Jaye on the same equipment that Morgan has access to.

Getting lessons (rant).... Essentially lessons for us intermediate windsurfers is "vapourware" ..Once you get past uphauling in rosebay on calm days- that's it! ......Presently sitting at home - wind blowing - on 2 weeks holiday - can't find anybody to throw money at to get some lessons!

However I have been fortunate and had access to lessons via friends who know somebody.

Given that I will give a loud shout out to the help Morgan has received through his RQ contacts and Simon. Myself through the Peter's at Windwanders and Tony and Duncan at Cootharaba. It seems that Windwanders is the only windsurf group that are doing something to address the needs of us intermediates. Wish something more local was happening.

In summary .... we are getting advice and help ... some of that advice has been to change the boards we are on .. sometimes we need just to go sailing and that may mean going out on a board that we know will work

Morgan and I are very committed ....
and if one board did it we would already be there and not sharing in a learners thread.


I feel less angry now Just trying to tell it how it is for us learners who so want it- so bad!!!

Congratulations Morgan on your first year - looking forward to spending more time with you.

Cheers Jeff

jirvin4505 said..
warning Rant... Long...

I've spent the morning considering a reply to the "stick to one board" theme....

I had similar conversations and advice ....
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Queensland/Cootharaba-Christmas/?page=1

So being a sailing friend of Morgan and going out with most of the local improvers....
Bob, Tony, Mal, Morgan,Pat and Anita i would say i'm pretty well in contact with the intermediate windsurfers in the local area. I share their struggles :-)

So why do we choose different boards and not stick with the one board?

We are all in contact with helpful friends offering advice when they see us struggling with our gear. In a way I feel responsible for some of the longboard choices being made within our group.

We are all in contact with the major shops in the local area - making considered purchasing decisions.

I am still sailing differing boards depending on the conditions - still spending time on the Go when i think the conditions are suitable. Still feeling frustrated....typically...

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Queensland/Sandstone-point-shortboard-development/

I've been with Morgan when he has made the decision to change boards... Its a choice "more time on the water" vs "more time in the water" or sitting another session out because of too little/much wind!!


Morgan and I have discussed the general dismissal we feel for the choices made, knowing that often the choices we make are so we remain in the sport.

Coming back into Manly beach to ride the SUP/Windsurfer after being trashed on the Shark for an hour is not a choice made easily; its made to keep the stoke of windsurfing alive after another humbling hour in the water.

Similarly when I've spent 2 hours schlogging back and forward or getting tossed over the handle bars I am more than ready to look for an alternate ride that is going to get me "on the water" rather than'"in the water" or "off the water".

Agreed this may be confuse the Learning Curve however other things are being learned. F2 comet-old skool slalom- in high winds...Waterstarts, Footstraps, Pointing my toes. Raceboard...Big sails.. Waterstarting huge cammed sails in rough water with gusty winds. Tacking and sailing downwind. Committing to the harness (aside.. Same sail setup on longbord I dont fall out of the lines whereas its still a problem on the shortboard)

There is also which "one board" do we stick with? I'm onto my 4th 'one board' to stick with. All changes have been made with advice from people coaching my sailing!


Morgan and I agree that there is development sailing and recreational sailing. This needs to be kept in balance, for us 'older sailors' starting later in life many issues conspire against us. We both are in awe of the progress made by Morgans young son Jaye on the same equipment that Morgan has access to.

Getting lessons (rant).... Essentially lessons for us intermediate windsurfers is "vapourware" ..Once you get past uphauling in rosebay on calm days- that's it! ......Presently sitting at home - wind blowing - on 2 weeks holiday - can't find anybody to throw money at to get some lessons!

However I have been fortunate and had access to lessons via friends who know somebody.

Given that I will give a loud shout out to the help Morgan has received through his RQ contacts and Simon. Myself through the Peter's at Windwanders and Tony and Duncan at Cootharaba. It seems that Windwanders is the only windsurf group that are doing something to address the needs of us intermediates. Wish something more local was happening.

In summary .... we are getting advice and help ... some of that advice has been to change the boards we are on .. sometimes we need just to go sailing and that may mean going out on a board that we know will work

Morgan and I are very committed ....
and if one board did it we would already be there and not sharing in a learners thread.


I feel less angry now Just trying to tell it how it is for us learners who so want it- so bad!!!

Congratulations Morgan on your first year - looking forward to spending more time with you.

Cheers Jeff

Dwbh said..
Happy G20 everyone

Today was pretty good - we had a few thing to get, a non slip pad for the Be Bop, so off to the Goldy to pick up the pretty colours Anita wants (the things we do) 50 ks all the way - yes I mean all the way.

Picked up some nice Blue Marble decking from Ajsp at Arundel.. cool

Yatala pie on the way home (naughty really) Pfffft! will have to work it off tomorrow at RQ beach.

Went to Wellington Point this afternoon and everyone was out - Man, I didn't have my gear but I had to fix stuff at home for tomoz

Taking all boards tomorrow - wind is up - might even take the shark for a run (don't tell anyone ) - should be there by 12 noon for an afternoon sailing

Tony and Jeff are coming so looking forward to having some fun with the Improvers - Hey Jeff, Tony, Mal, Ants, Jaye, Anita we are going to have to get 'The Improvers' t shirts printed .

Cheers
Morgan

Dwbh said..
Heading back to RQ Beach today

Everyone turned up - there was Mal, Tony, Jeff, Bob and AntC came down for a look. Was excellent to get all the improvers together again

Got pretty smashed but would just like to say I went the fastest I have ever gone on the Pacifico yesterday standing on the fin was pretty cool - didn't have any foot straps on to get in - oh well. Did a stack of water starts - it was a good day to practice those. But plenty of walking to get back to RQ Beach though - it was the only way to get there.

For the record - I would like to say I took the Fanatic Shark 165l for a quick spin with the ezzy 6.3m sail. Was interesting - even did a water start on it sort of anyway.

Back to the Pacifico and away we go - I think the 6.3 was probably a bit big for me yesterday - I still had it rigged wrong Peter De Laet stopped by and was very kind to help me rig it correctly. Nice to see Peter De Laet (Wind Wanderers) who popped in for a visit.

Jaye - went out on the Fanatic shark and his new Maui 4.7m wave sail. He got smashed and came in - didn't spend too much time on the water - but I must say he looked the part. Jaye has his serious face on in these photos







Anita - Too windy - something to look at with the Peters at the clinic at Elanda point later in the month

Have fun every one and hope you guys from bayside have a good race - tried to talk Jaye into it but not this time.

Cheers
Morgan

Dwbh said..
anyway.

Back to the Pacifico and away we go - I think the 6.3 was probably a bit big for me yesterday - I still had it rigged wrong Peter De Laet stopped by and was very kind to help me rig it correctly. Nice to see Peter De Laet (Wind Wanderers) who popped in for a visit.


Cheers
Morgan

John340 said..





Morgan,

I've jsut checked the gpsteamchallenge.com.au site and what sail size the Morton Bay Mob were using on Saturday. Both Vando and glynn both used their 6.3, so your 6.3 should have been the right size. If it felt a bit big it was probably sail trim, most probably not enough down haul. What adjustments did Peter make to the trim of the sail?

Dwbh said..




Yeah it was John - Peter adjusted the down haul

bc said..
I posted this in other thread but applies here to

So any one that is having any issues I am going to be running free clinics every second weekend on the south side on a Saturday afternoon, just PM And remember we all just want to have fun........ Simon

MalJ said..
Half your luck Morgan. Off soon to do a drop off at Schoolies!!!