Has anyone got the Hover yet.should be here anytime l guess.happy foiling anyway.

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gavnwend said..
Has anyone got the Hover yet.should be here anytime l guess.happy foiling anyway.

I was told September..

Hi JB
what is the difference in the Malolo foil and the thrust foil?
cheers

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DavidJohn said..

gavnwend said..
Has anyone got the Hover yet.should be here anytime l guess.happy foiling anyway.

I was told September..

Very close now, next week ??

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jimbob SA said..

DavidJohn said..

gavnwend said..
Has anyone got the Hover yet.should be here anytime l guess.happy foiling anyway.

I was told September..

Very close now, next week ??

mine is on the way
Thanks JB

Got mine yesterday and it looks awesome.. Hover 122 board and 5.7 Lift sail.

Such a high quality and finish everywhere you look.. Can't wait to get it wet..

Look forward to your first video on the Hover and what you think of the Lift sail DJ.

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DavidJohn said..
Got mine yesterday and it looks awesome.. Hover 122 board and 5.7 Lift sail.

Such a high quality and finish everywhere you look.. Can't wait to get it wet..

Happy foiling mate.mines been delayed by two or three weeks.sydney thing!.

Well I got mine today. Super impressed with the build and design quality. Spent about 1 hr in The Zu with Paul assembling and just running through it. Felt like a kid on Christmas morning.

I then made the call to give it a go on let's say not the ideal day I would have wished for. The wind was swinging and between 15-30 knots and gusty with flat to 1m swell.

Firstly I will say that I am
not a shop or team rider. I am about 88kgs at the moment (winter coat) I have been windsurfing for over 30 years last 15+ been bay/wave and not owned a sail bigger than 5.5 m for a very long time.

In one way I regret not having the go pro charged to share my first session but also just enjoyed the learning experience.

When I went out first I rigged up 4.7m Severne blade as it was 20+ knots and I didn't want to be over powered.

The Naish 122L setup did everything so well I had read that foils don't do well or I things I was worried about.

Beach starting and water starting- not an issue. Just careful not to kick too much.

Super gusty- see image. Some gusts came through around 30-35 knots. Simply weighting the front foot just behind the mast base meant I could sail it just like a normal kit. Could easily tide though and felt safe. Not foiling the board could sail like a normal
board would pointing into the wind. I was out from 11:30 - 2:30


I started out without a harness as I was worried about the smack down catapults. I did use a mast base knob to protect the nose which I think is a great idea. After two runs I got the harness on as all fears were put to rest. The touch downs are very gentle and easy to ride out. Harness made it essier to do the small adjustments. I will need to play with line length though.

Foiling- well this was the big surprise. On my first run I was able to lift off. It felt a little twitchy but I was able to get used to it very quickly.

On the second run I was
able to pop up and lift and then touch down and able to find the balance spot.

After around 4 runs the wind was crap. I made the mistake of staying with the 4.7 for a few runs. Pumping the smaller sail just made me tired. (Ive never been a good pumper- and
usually sail lazy higher winds) I changed to a 5.5 Severn blade. This was perfect. Could pop up and stay on the foil then entire runs. Touching down obviously but had some lift time of several hundred meters.

So after 1-2 runs I was foiling. I thought it would take me 4-5 sessions to achieve this. After 1-2 hours i felt comfortable. I could lift on demand and hold a neutral position.

When I was up on the foil the only thing I could liken it to was deep powder skiing. No noise. Smooth floating. I found that I needed to really lighten my grip and just let the sail depower a little. I also found that having bent knees (like what Kai and Robbie) allowed for good control and improved balance.

It was tiring as I haven't fallen
in that many times and I was over tense.

Since foiling hit sailing and the Americas cup I have been obsessed with the concept. I was
skeptical that it may require the soil set of the pros. I still handed over the coin.

I am time poor and my mind set was to get a kit that would fill the gap. Probably a typical family man who just wants time on water.

0-10 knots - wave supping
10-22 knots - foiling
22+ knots normal sailing kit

I was sick of getting dudded by the Melbourne bay conditions. Like today it would have been a frustrating sail with my normal gear. As compared to the awsome
session I had today. I also need yo
drive 40mins each way so want enjoyment out of my brownie point credits from
the family.

Is the the money worth it- yes. I really can't wait for the next session and the future. The build quality is great and exceptional.
The board doesn't feel like a 122l/ it's short and light. The foil does have some weight in it so it's not as buoyant as a normal 122 would be. It's only 73 wide so not like a formula board. That's why I went the Naish over the others.

One of my mates is keen
to video with a drone- I'll post that.

I do think you need to be an experienced sailor. The fine adjustments and board awareness is crucial. I wouldnt
suggest for novices yet. I would also recommend doing the slingshot foil school course before
going out

Well at the end of my first session I felt like Robbie and Kai in the
promo video - in my mind only (even though I was touching down) and the water was
full of rubbish and pollution after a
big rain.

Bring on a sunny nice 12-20 knot day.

I hope this helps also others thinking about it and especially with so little info on the net ag this stage.

Thanks to Paul at the Zu for
his help and advice. Looking forward to seeing more on the water and if anyone in Melb want to skill build together drop me a line.

Naish have done a great job on this board. Highly recommend.

Foiling is here and here here to stay. I'm sure it will only get better.

Excellent review of your first session.. I gave today a miss with the squally winds and decided to wait for a better day to try mine.

Got mine foil ready

I think the foil goes on the other side..

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DavidJohn said..
I think the foil goes on the other side..

.l just worked it out.

The thing l like about the Naish foil is everything will be universal.l suppose that's why it cost $$$ .

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gavnwend said..
Got mine foil ready

Are these M6 or M8 screws?
Looks like M6

Alex

M6 but getting m8 they are better so l heard

Serious thanks H2O for the blow by blow description of your day one. My Naish should arrive here in WA soon and I Hope to have a first day like yours. I'm hooked, and I haven't even started yet!

Had my first touchdown at warp speed.Its a encounter l will rembember for many years to come. OUCH!

Our gear arrived a couple of weeks ago (Thrust WS and Hover 122), and as is always the case, was followed by a week of doldrums. However we finally got a day to test it all out last Friday. This is Scott (on one of his first dozen runs on a foil ever) getting some great glides (on his off tack too).

Aidan got it flying for some long glides as well.

and we both had some good offs. Both of us (natural foot surfers) found this tack to be much harder to maintain steady flight on which we put down to not being as good at shifting weight in our off stance.

Wind was probably between 10 and 18 knots and as always in Canberra, very gusty. lots of learning to do in order to get steady flight through everything, but what a rush. the biggest issue was trying to remember to breathe during each run.

I have also been trying to foil my normal 128L slalom board on the Naish Thrust Surf L. I have been able to get some decent flights, but the longevity of the board is questionable and it was amazing how much better foiling the dedicated gear was. My mounting options on the standard board have all been very draggy (hence the big sail) which makes getting on the foil much harder, as well as being weaker than needed (luckily the foil has always been tethered) so have ended every session with something in my backyard mount broken.

Compared to this setup the Hover with its direct mount felt slippery on the water and was ready to jump as soon as the gust hit, and was easy to pop onto the foil once moving. The Lift sail is incredibly light, especially rigged like it was on high end mast/boom and extension), being soft it feels like you can "choke" the sail while trying to get moving, so rewarded subtle handling until it got moving, it also feels very underpowered until you get on the foil, then you are glad for how small and soft it is.

More pics here if you are interested: www.facebook.com/pg/Wetspot.net.au/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1460033244090032

Cant wait for some more wind (and maybe a couple of degrees warmer water) so we can get out again.

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Wetspot said..
Our gear arrived a couple of weeks ago (Thrust WS and Hover 122), and as is always the case, was followed by a week of doldrums. However we finally got a day to test it all out last Friday. This is Scott (on one of his first dozen runs on a foil ever) getting some great glides (on his off tack too).

Aidan got it flying for some long glides as well.

and we both had some good offs. Both of us (natural foot surfers) found this tack to be much harder to maintain steady flight on which we put down to not being as good at shifting weight in our off stance.

Wind was probably between 10 and 18 knots and as always in Canberra, very gusty. lots of learning to do in order to get steady flight through everything, but what a rush. the biggest issue was trying to remember to breathe during each run.

I have also been trying to foil my normal 128L slalom board on the Naish Thrust Surf L. I have been able to get some decent flights, but the longevity of the board is questionable and it was amazing how much better foiling the dedicated gear was. My mounting options on the standard board have all been very draggy (hence the big sail) which makes getting on the foil much harder, as well as being weaker than needed (luckily the foil has always been tethered) so have ended every session with something in my backyard mount broken.

Compared to this setup the Hover with its direct mount felt slippery on the water and was ready to jump as soon as the gust hit, and was easy to pop onto the foil once moving. The Lift sail is incredibly light, especially rigged like it was on high end mast/boom and extension), being soft it feels like you can "choke" the sail while trying to get moving, so rewarded subtle handling until it got moving, it also feels very underpowered until you get on the foil, then you are glad for how small and soft it is.

More pics here if you are interested: www.facebook.com/pg/Wetspot.net.au/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1460033244090032

Cant wait for some more wind (and maybe a couple of degrees warmer water) so we can get out again.

I've got the opposite problem. Gusty 30 knots from the west with too big a swell every day. Hopefully next week can have a go on mine ??

Can anyone offer some guidance as to the location of the rear footstrap relative to the front wing. I'm fitting a foil to a board and trying to work out the best location for the mast.
As a general rule for kitefoiling, the rear strap about 6" aft of the centre of the front wing. On a wind foil the mast joins the fuselage further aft so you can use the Tuttle box but mine is a plate mount with the front wing mounted directly in front of the mast.
thanks

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airsail said..
Can anyone offer some guidance as to the location of the rear footstrap relative to the front wing. I'm fitting a foil to a board and trying to work out the best location for the mast.
As a general rule for kitefoiling, the rear strap about 6" aft of the centre of the front wing. On a wind foil the mast joins the fuselage further aft so you can use the Tuttle box but mine is a plate mount with the front wing mounted directly in front of the mast.
thanks

Windfoils are designed around using the Tuttle box of existing sailboards as the start point.
so windfoil fuselage is normally 100mm longer in front of mast in order to move the lift centre forward that amount.
so foot straps should stay were they are as a start point.

Does anyone know what the top speed is and does it still feel comfortable or more on the edge?

Can you do S type carving like with a snow board or surf board?
Has anyone else started foiling in 11 knots or less gusts?

I have been foiling for 6 days and wind up to about 8 knots and finding it very easy on the naish hover and foil , i believe the work done by naish is outstanding and if your going to do it , the cost dosnt matter as the kit just works , my top speed so far is just under 19 knots and each session my 5 x 10 sec is less than 1 knot slower so shows how good the glide is on the Hover , i have no idea how fast it will go but mid 20 knots should be nice and comfy .









www.facebook.com/chris.kiehn.9/videos/10155016373783634/

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aussieboats said..
I have been foiling for 6 days and wind up to about 8 knots and finding it very easy on the naish hover and foil , i believe the work done by naish is outstanding and if your going to do it , the cost dosnt matter as the kit just works , my top speed so far is just under 19 knots and each session my 5 x 10 sec is less than 1 knot slower so shows how good the glide is on the Hover , i have no idea how fast it will go but mid 20 knots should be nice and comfy .









www.facebook.com/chris.kiehn.9/videos/10155016373783634/

what sail sizes are using? Cheers

5.8m most days and yesterday the 6.4m ka free ride sails seems to be a good combo , very loose outhaul to give lots of forward drive

The naish hover is the earlist planing foil on the market.top speed is not the aim.lm sure it will hit mid 20s (knots).Im 97 kg 6.1 .l get her going in around 8 to 10 knots.once up they fly.l think the above pics show just how easy they get going his probaly 5 kg lighter then me

Iam only 72kgs so dont need much wind

So has anyone used the Naish Crossover 120 wind foiling. I like the idea of being able to switch the front wing and go Sup foiling or surf foiling. What happens if you try to wind foil on the Crossover 120 using the large wings meant for Sup'n and Surf'n? I'm debating between the two boards now. The video with Kai implies that he used the same foil for all three, my guess is he swapped out the front wing.