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CYVRWoody > 9 months ago, 1 Oct 2020

CYVRWoody

133 posts

1 Oct 2020 12:41am

www.slingshotsports.com/slingshot-kite/slingshot-kite-foil

no windfoils yet.

Why not buy the front wing for windfoiling?
I use a 600 sq.cm. kitefoil for all my windfoiling...7-15 knot breezes...at 75 kg and 6.0 sail max if the breeze gusts to 13.
My 1220 wing sits in the van to get wet one out of 5 days just to validate the low end ability of the 600 wing.
A 65 kg friend of mine often uses his custom 450sq.cm. front wing if gusts go over 18 knots.

swoosh

QLD

1929 posts

1 Oct 2020 6:36am

Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

airsail

QLD

1570 posts

1 Oct 2020 7:16am

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swoosh said..
Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

No, they are a completely new range. Some type of tech mast construction to improve stiffness.

thedoor

2487 posts

1 Oct 2020 5:25am

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LeeD said..
Why not buy the front wing for windfoiling?
I use a 600 sq.cm. kitefoil for all my windfoiling...7-15 knot breezes...at 75 kg and 6.0 sail max if the breeze gusts to 13.
My 1220 wing sits in the van to get wet one out of 5 days just to validate the low end ability of the 600 wing.
A 65 kg friend of mine often uses his custom 450sq.cm. front wing if gusts go over 18 knots.

That 633 wind does look sick but I think I would find the 710 fuselage too short for windfoiling

LeeD

3939 posts

1 Oct 2020 8:50am

Does that wing fit on a longer fuze?
I'm on Naish 64 fuze, both 1220 and 600, and stabs work either way.

thedoor

2487 posts

1 Oct 2020 1:13pm

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LeeD said..
Does that wing fit on a longer fuze?
I'm on Naish 64 fuze, both 1220 and 600, and stabs work either way.

I think it will but I don't think they are selling longer phantasm fuses yet.

Samkyo

99 posts

1 Oct 2020 2:41pm

Hope they will produce an adaptator to allow the use of an hover glide Wing on a Phantasm mast to enjoy both system

CoreAS

923 posts

1 Oct 2020 9:27pm

From my understanding the windfoil phantasm is still being tweaked, and there should be a winging foil phantasm system as well.

Obviously the fuse length is pretty important for windfoiling, but the kiters got it first, they're more of them

thedoor

2487 posts

2 Oct 2020 12:11am

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CoreAS said..
From my understanding the windfoil phantasm is still being tweaked, and there should be a winging foil phantasm system as well.

Obviously the fuse length is pretty important for windfoiling, but the kiters got it first, they're more of them

Danglers unite

michaelpaf

92 posts

13 Oct 2020 6:50pm

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thedoor said..

Danglers unite

Kite Friend of me is still waiting for his one. Are there just experiences with the phanstasm's compared to the HG Line?

WhiteofHeart

798 posts

13 Oct 2020 7:53pm

If the website is correct, that phantasm stabiliser is huge, on the website it says wingspan 400mm, but surface area 567cm2!!

I think they are wrong though, because 400mm wingspan and 89mm chord are never gonna add up to 567cm2, 367cm2 more likely.

KDog

371 posts

13 Oct 2020 10:01pm

Slingshot website always has some mistakes in one place they list 114 wizard sail size 3.5 to 7.5 on the spec. sheet 3.5 to 5.2. I think the the person that does the website has a lot to update with 5 different sports.

duzzi

1123 posts

14 Oct 2020 10:24pm

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airsail said..

swoosh said..
Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

No, they are a completely new range. Some type of tech mast construction to improve stiffness.

Slingshot does not "make" any foil ... they outsource, and the maker is most likely Moses as it was in the past.

airsail

QLD

1570 posts

15 Oct 2020 7:32am

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duzzi said..

airsail said..

swoosh said..
Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

No, they are a completely new range. Some type of tech mast construction to improve stiffness.

Slingshot does not "make" any foil ... they outsource, and the maker is most likely Moses as it was in the past.

These are Slingshot foils, Moses and Slingshot parted company re foils some time ago. Slingshot was the original designer of the popular 633 wing hence being available on the Phantasm range. The mast is double moulded 12k high modulus carbon, not just a wood or foam core. A mate has one on order, I'm very keen to have a go.

Grantmac

2339 posts

15 Oct 2020 8:15am

Definitely not Moses, I'm thinking a different Chinese manufacturer than before considering the original one they worked with is happily selling their design under other labels now.

michaelpaf

92 posts

17 Oct 2020 4:16pm

Any concrete review of the phantasm Foil?

Samkyo

99 posts

18 Oct 2020 11:03pm

Hello,

any idea what the slingshot wing on the left look bigger than the I65

duzzi

1123 posts

19 Oct 2020 10:48pm

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airsail said..

duzzi said..

airsail said..

swoosh said..
Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

No, they are a completely new range. Some type of tech mast construction to improve stiffness.

Slingshot does not "make" any foil ... they outsource, and the maker is most likely Moses as it was in the past.

Moses manufactures foils. Slingshot does not manufactures anything, it outsources the production (like many do). In previous years the Slingshot wood and foam core wings were not manufactured by Moses.

CoreAS

923 posts

19 Oct 2020 11:36pm

Phantasm on a 125cm mast

dejavu

825 posts

20 Oct 2020 3:13am

Apparently you need evidence that you've completed a high altitude training course before you can purchase one of these foils with mast. Also, a specially constructed impact jacket is included in the price of each foil and you have to sign a waiver that you won't hold Sling Shot liable for any injuries due to ejecting without your Sling Shot parachute (also included in the price).

It won't be long before we're all riding one of these!

Paducah

2792 posts

20 Oct 2020 9:33pm

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dejavu said..
Apparently you need evidence that you've completed a high altitude training course before you can purchase one of these foils with mast. Also, a specially constructed impact jacket is included in the price of each foil and you have to sign a waiver that you won't hold Sling Shot liable for any injuries due to ejecting without your Sling Shot parachute (also included in the price).

It won't be long before we're all riding one of these!

foiling out on that mast

ZeroVix

366 posts

21 Oct 2020 12:07am

PatK

322 posts

21 Oct 2020 9:26pm

PHANTASM KITE RANGE - Behind The Design - Slingshot Foil

Listen at 1:50 for other sports options

bluemoose

7 posts

21 Oct 2020 11:20pm

"Bigger footprint, better foil."

That they spend so much time talking about the advantages of the Big Foot Connection... no irony there.

dejavu

825 posts

22 Oct 2020 6:09am

CoreAS

923 posts

22 Oct 2020 10:58am

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dejavu said..

Greg has some serious skills, awesome to watch.

Samkyo

99 posts

22 Oct 2020 3:17pm

Do you think they will do an adaptator to use phantasm Aluminiumfuselage with hover glide aluminium mast as it has been done with Moses?
Could be nice to avoid extra mast budget and have a crossover option on both system to complet my actual system instead of replacing It.

horey69

QLD

500 posts

23 Oct 2020 9:31pm

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duzzi said..

airsail said..

duzzi said..

airsail said..

swoosh said..
Aren't these just Moses foils with a slingshot sticker on them?

No, they are a completely new range. Some type of tech mast construction to improve stiffness.

Slingshot does not "make" any foil ... they outsource, and the maker is most likely Moses as it was in the past.

Slingshot has designed the Phantasm range to differentiate it's self from Moses. Moses had its foils made by SAB.
The new Phantasm range will build to a complete range as the designs are ready.

thedoor

2487 posts

23 Oct 2020 11:24pm

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Samkyo said..
Do you think they will do an adaptator to use phantasm Aluminiumfuselage with hover glide aluminium mast as it has been done with Moses?
Could be nice to avoid extra mast budget and have a crossover option on both system to complet my actual system instead of replacing It.

dont think so

Paducah

2792 posts

24 Oct 2020 12:34am

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thedoor said..

dont think so

If that's the case, there's going to be a lot of disappointed HG owners. More than a few have been waiting a year to lighten up their kit and have a bit of money invested in wings.

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