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DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

24 Feb 2015 6:57pm
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RoyStuart said..

smicko said..


RoyStuart said..





smicko said..
Your abuse is unwarranted and unecessarily offensive.





Your comment below was offensive:




smicko said..]



What's the bet Roy conveniently misses your post too.





Obviously insinuating that I made the boxing title up and will avoid fronting up when called out on it... 'F you' is entirely appropriate... don't call me a liar.





One slight problem there Roy, I didn't make the above comment that you have put my name next to, I believe that comment was made by cuttlefish. So I guess you just made a liar of yourself.
Your second quote was my comment and it was in relation to my question to you on the previous page, see below;




RoyStuart said..


Macaha said..


RoyStuart said.. 55 pounds @ 13-9



Very ZEN Roy Was that you twin @3.15 mark?



Son Tristan, he spends most of his time boxing ( NZ light heavyweight champ) but slides a few now and then.



Got any links to any of his fights Roy? Can't find anything about him on line. Be good to see him in action...




As you can see nothing rude or untoward there^^^ Yet you completely ignore the question and an online search for Tristan Stuart, NZ Light Heavyweight Champion yields nothing. And then you abuse me when I query your lack of response and attribute another persons comments to me? Going so far as to cut and paste their comment and sticking it next to my name?

F*&k you, I find that act offensive. It also makes you a liar.

See you just proved my point and didn't need any help from me at all. Bravo




Cuttlefish huh? That figures, maybe he can troll somewhere else, but he tends to follow me around, not under his legal name naturally.



Na thats just smicko, he is like that just ignore him.
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

24 Feb 2015 6:58pm
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RoyStuart said..
The 66-021 will be glassed this weekend, believe it or not the wide point is 6 inches forward of the centre::



Man that thing will never slide out!!

Orange one looks sick cant wait to see it go!!
Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish

QLD

1332 posts

24 Feb 2015 9:21pm
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RoyStuart said..



smicko said..




RoyStuart said..







smicko said..
Your abuse is unwarranted and unecessarily offensive.







Your comment below was offensive:






smicko said..]



What's the bet Roy conveniently misses your post too.







Obviously insinuating that I made the boxing title up and will avoid fronting up when called out on it... 'F you' is entirely appropriate... don't call me a liar.






One slight problem there Roy, I didn't make the above comment that you have put my name next to, I believe that comment was made by cuttlefish. So I guess you just made a liar of yourself.
Your second quote was my comment and it was in relation to my question to you on the previous page, see below;






RoyStuart said..




Macaha said..




RoyStuart said.. 55 pounds @ 13-9





Very ZEN Roy Was that you twin @3.15 mark?





Son Tristan, he spends most of his time boxing ( NZ light heavyweight champ) but slides a few now and then.





Got any links to any of his fights Roy? Can't find anything about him on line. Be good to see him in action...




As you can see nothing rude or untoward there^^^ Yet you completely ignore the question and an online search for Tristan Stuart, NZ Light Heavyweight Champion yields nothing. And then you abuse me when I query your lack of response and attribute another persons comments to me? Going so far as to cut and paste their comment and sticking it next to my name?

F*&k you, I find that act offensive. It also makes you a liar.

See you just proved my point and didn't need any help from me at all. Bravo






Cuttlefish huh? That figures, maybe he can troll somewhere else, but he tends to follow me around, not under his legal name naturally.



You've made a jolly good hash of the quotes and who said what. I use the exact same username anywhere I post except Surfermag which was the first forum I posted on and have a different username. A few forums that I post on I've actually been posting on them longer than you so I'm hardly a troll.


RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

25 Feb 2015 2:52am
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DARTH said..

RoyStuart said..
The 66-021 will be glassed this weekend, believe it or not the wide point is 6 inches forward of the centre::




Man that thing will never slide out!!

Orange one looks sick cant wait to see it go!!


The 66-021 will be shocking pink it's the only pigment I have right now :)

She'd probably work finless too so maybe some smaller fin options, am considering in line singles i.e. a single with a trailing nubster.


SP
SP

SP

10982 posts

25 Feb 2015 10:00am
Sweet Roy..

Keep it coming..

Despite the posts and behavior of some who cannot bite their tongues the majority of us are interested and are pretty over the know it alls...

Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

26 Feb 2015 9:00pm
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RoyStuart said..

DARTH said..


RoyStuart said..
The 66-021 will be glassed this weekend, believe it or not the wide point is 6 inches forward of the centre::





Man that thing will never slide out!!

Orange one looks sick cant wait to see it go!!



The 66-021 will be shocking pink it's the only pigment I have right now :)

She'd probably work finless too so maybe some smaller fin options, am considering in line singles i.e. a single with a trailing nubster.




Will it be done with 3d roy
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

27 Feb 2015 5:49am
Yes I'm going to have another crack at the 3D glass, I think I have a method which will improve the process, we shall see.
Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

27 Feb 2015 12:03pm
cool keep us posted Roy.
doing a great job mate,,,, its one thing i would love to do in life ,,,shape and glass a board,,,but i lack the patience.
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

27 Feb 2015 1:41pm
Thanks Cobra, will do...

Shaping the 66-021: finished today, glassing tomorrow.




genuine
genuine

332 posts

27 Feb 2015 2:39pm
Really looking forward to how this one will turn out


DaveBasher
DaveBasher

SA

196 posts

28 Feb 2015 11:17am
Hey Roy, did you ever receive any comment back from Geoff McCoy about using his gullwing fin design? I recall from somewhere you contacted him. Would be really keen to hear from any single fin McCoy riders who have used both the original McCoy gullwing and your version. Interesting to hear people's perception of the gullwing not having drive; I would agree that in the Astron Zot (7'1") it is not drivey but so loose and fast, frictionless almost. In the 9'2" McCoy allround longboard though it has heaps of hold but allows easy turning if the wave has grunt. Not so good in small slow surf but it isn't a pivot fin anyway, and the board isn't a log either.........

wavemaniac
wavemaniac

469 posts

28 Feb 2015 10:16am
to compare the GF properly,a surfer needs the crinkle cut and straight edge from Roy and the GM as well.Mik will have those 3 soon.
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

28 Feb 2015 3:57pm
Yes Mr Mik's fin is on the way.

Here's the 66 model with the deck glass applied, things went a lot more smoothly this time, as it turns out the main problem last time was due to darts being cut, this time we didn't cut any except on the cloth below the masking line which is removed anyway.

More pics on the way.




Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

28 Feb 2015 4:46pm
looking good roy
nice rocker line and I like the hot pink
SandS
SandS

VIC

5904 posts

28 Feb 2015 10:40pm
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RoyStuart said..
Yes Mr Mik's fin is on the way.

Here's the 66 model with the deck glass applied, things went a lot more smoothly this time, as it turns out the main problem last time was due to darts being cut, this time we didn't cut any except on the cloth below the masking line which is removed anyway.

More pics on the way.






interested to see both these slipping along !!!!! keep working Roy !!!!and filming .......................
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

7 Mar 2015 8:56am
The 66 is glassed now and progressing well. will have some pics later today.

We were up at 4am for a dawnie at the point last week to test the 16 model orange machine but at the last minute couldn't find a hex key for the fin so had to pull the pin on the mission. Cyclone swell possibly coming up in a couple of weeks though.

Dave I had no direct response from Geoff but did get a rather incoherent letter from his lawyer. The bottom line is that I'm free to make the Gull Wings ( in spite of their demand that I cease to do so) as the fins have been in the public domain for decades, and I made significant changes to the fin but I did agree not to use Geoff's name in connection with my fins.

Apparently he was livid and I was banned from the Geoff McCoy Rider's group on facebook because of my Gull Wings.... even though the entire GW project was started by one of the members who asked me to make them. I thought it was the right thing to do to give Geoff credit for the original GW but there's no accounting for human behaviour. Part of the lawyer's rave was to let me know that Geoff disagrees with the use of fins resembling gull's wings on any but his own boards, and to tell me that the bumpy leading edge is wrong... I must remember to hire a lawyer next time I want to make a surfboard design statement lol.

Part of my response to the lawyer was to state that in my opinion I have better vibes towards Geoff than any lawyer ever born, and that I disagreed with him taking Geoff's money and encouraging his anger on such a futile mission as trying to stop me making a few fins.
wavemaniac
wavemaniac

469 posts

7 Mar 2015 9:15am
The BLEF gull model is a different thickness and foil as well as the leading edge variation and its got a different size base hasn't it?
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

7 Mar 2015 12:36pm
Yes although we have just made a smooth leadind edged version for Mik.

Here's the Pink Terror today:



Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

15 Mar 2015 6:19pm
got any updates roy
Cuttlefish
Cuttlefish

QLD

1332 posts

16 Mar 2015 1:00am
Looks like there should be a "bit" of swell bludgeoning NZ for a proper testing of the board/boards. Charge those camera batteries and don't forget your fin keys.
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

16 Mar 2015 5:44am
Ok I got some head high (on the sets) 17 second period cyclone Pam waves this saturday. The banks were crap, and there was a cross swell and light onshore. I also had a fever from an infection so felt sub par.

Anyway here are the first impressions:

1) The board is bright, can be seen miles away.

2) Paddling is epic, it takes little effort to keep a high paddle speed up and digging in hard gets even more speed.

3) Wave catching capability is very good indeed.

4) Rolling under is adequate but bot quite as good as a thinner longer board, the hand grip on the rails is ok but again not quite as good as a thinner board. Not really an issue for huge waves as they are not being rolled anyway, and workable for an all rounder.

5) Ride wise the board has no vices and does what it's ordered to do. Feels very 'loose' and free running, seems quite willing to get some good speed up. (9 inch spitfire felt very nice, definitely low drag and responsive.

The thickness (3.5") felt ok after a few waves but seemed a bit thick at first. Overall the board felt pretty short and will take a few sessions to adjust to. Keeping in mind that i haven't ridden a board down in the 9 foot range for about 10 years.

Weight at 23 pounds feels good though on the light side, probably due to the shorter length and high buoyancy.

As a board for very large waves I have no doubt that it will work but I don't see any reason to go so short.

More testing will be done, the surf is now out of control and I'm laid up with an infection, board is now with my son at Mount Maungabui as he's getting in the water more often than I am at present. unfortunately no chance to get to some of the tucked away spots which will handle the swell. Cyclones never seem to stay out East like they used to in the 70's... back then they'd track further East by a long way and we'd get offshores and clean pumpoing swell for a week at least. Ironically the West coast has had consistent clean swell throughout all this cyclone hype so should have gone West but I was sucked in by the long period.

I have five 11 foot blanks with custom rocker and deck profile arriving this week, might as well cut the crap and go to the real gun zone... I'll be going about half an inch thinner on the 11 footers, and glassing with 10oz so they'll be a lot quicker to make. The 11 footers will be more up Camel's street I think.

Pink board is progressing.

RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

16 Mar 2015 5:49am


MickPC
MickPC

8266 posts

16 Mar 2015 10:22am
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RoyStuart said..



The wave looks fun
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

16 Mar 2015 1:49pm
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MickPC said..


The wave looks fun




+ small ! Shame that Pam decided to sit on top of NZ and not stay off the coast for a few days. Mangawhai bar looks like its pretty good today - but probably windy as well.

Board looks great Roy - all the best with it - standing but for some action vids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Prawnhead
Prawnhead

NSW

1317 posts

16 Mar 2015 6:40pm
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Ted the Kiwi said..

MickPC said..



The wave looks fun





standing but for some action vids !!!!!!!!!!!!!!





standing "but" ? don't tell your missus Ted!
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi

NSW

14256 posts

16 Mar 2015 6:44pm
Standing by
RoyStuart
RoyStuart

532 posts

19 Mar 2015 7:11am
In have a bit of video of the sesh, it's not really worth showing though but I'll put it up if you fellows want to see it... just a bloke under the weather on some small bumpy close outs.

Anyway five 11 foot blanks cut to this profile are due to be delivered this week, thickness I took down to 3.25":









Tux
Tux

Tux

VIC

3829 posts

19 Mar 2015 10:19am
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RoyStuart said..
In have a bit of video of the sesh, it's not really worth showing though but I'll put it up if you fellows want to see it... just a bloke under the weather on some small bumpy close outs.

Anyway five 11 foot blanks cut to this profile are due to be delivered this week, thickness I took down to 3.25":











Does this show the rocker after shaping (Or close to)?
Cobra
Cobra

9106 posts

19 Mar 2015 9:00am
put the video up Roy.

if its long boarding this is the room
wavelength
wavelength

1195 posts

19 Mar 2015 9:46am
Yep. This thread just keeps on giving. Thanks Roy. Would love to see the vid, please.

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