I don't own Gofoil, but I feel confident recommending candle wax over surf wax. Smoother application, doesn't pick up grit.

Any comments on how the foils got loose in the first place?

I have one mast and foil that have a tiny amount of slop. I suspect that is from manufacturing tolerances in both components adding to each other. All my other gear is fine.

My kite foils have similar connections (tuttle at the top and KF box style slot in the fuselage) with zero wear over several years and up to 800 hours use per foil.

My intention is to keep an eye on movement and repair the worst component with epoxy paste. Using wax sounds like a good interim fix. My foils pretty much never touch the sand (except for one minor shore break pounding) so that it not an issue.

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Gorgo said..
Any comments on how the foils got loose in the first place?

I have one mast and foil that have a tiny amount of slop. I suspect that is from manufacturing tolerances in both components adding to each other. All my other gear is fine.

My kite foils have similar connections (tuttle at the top and KF box style slot in the fuselage) with zero wear over several years and up to 800 hours use per foil.

My intention is to keep an eye on movement and repair the worst component with epoxy paste. Using wax sounds like a good interim fix. My foils pretty much never touch the sand (except for one minor shore break pounding) so that it not an issue.

Smaller wings really don't have the issue as the wing spans are way less which intern put way less pressure on connections. Bigger wings put way more pressure on connections and from what we find are where any movement will ever come from. If it's just a little lose and used like that it will wear the carbon just a little making it worse and putting more pressure on the screws which can them work lose making everything worse.

If you only use small wings you might never need to bother but if you are using wings with spans 1m and over then it's something that might come up but now is easy solved.

Looks like pretty interesting gear.

Could they do with an extra screw or two (GF+ System upgrade)?

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natho6026961 said. Could they do with an extra screw or two (GF+ System upgrade)?

Ha ha they do that I am out of here

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natho6026961 said..
Looks like pretty interesting gear.

Could they do with an extra screw or two (GF+ System upgrade)?

Just adding screws really long term is not a good fix and relying on screws is asking for trouble as they can shear off over time, anyone who rides Takuma would know about this as it was a real problem on all the ones we sold with the bigger wings. Better to just keep the fit as tight as possible and all is sweet.

It has been a few months since my switch from Armstrong to GOFoil. Definitely improved my foil Sup surfing and downwinding. Performance wise the foils just work. However if they want to gain more customer following I suggest GoFoil go the extra distance and improve the full package deal.

1) Brass T-nuts. Never used them. Binned first day. Using my stronger M8 stainless steel T-nuts that I bought from the USA (Foilmount I think), back when I rode axis.

2) Philips head screws! Same Again, binned them. Switched all my M6 and M8 hardware out for CSK Torx screws from accu.co.uk. I don't want to carry a No.4 screwdriver on the water with me. Allen key Torx is much more compact and easier to use IMO.

3) aluminium washer plates corrode. Switched them out for stainless countersunk washers. Again...GoFoil why not supply them in titanium or stainless from day one?

4) Bags. Yes they could do better. Look at lift, Axis and Armstrong. Enough said. I have sewn up the top of all my wing bags to stop them poking a tip out. GoFoil Aus have provided excellent customer support for a replacement wing bag, so no complaints there, First class service from Dylan.

5) Plate pad. I'd like something to protect the top plate on the mast. I've added rail tape my plate to stop it getting scratched up over time. The rubber or Eva pad is nice on some foils. Not essential but a nice to have.

The RS wings are best foils I've used to date and I've ridden a few Axis, Armie, Slingshot. There always seem to be something better hiding around the corner, but these RS wings are a great allrounder that go fast, turn, pump and handle breaches with ease. Very versatile for prone, wing and Sup so ticking all boxes for what I want in a foil currently.

P.s 75cm mast and 85cm are needed IMO (2 inches makes all the difference).

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hilly said..

natho6026961 said. Could they do with an extra screw or two (GF+ System upgrade)?

Ha ha they do that I am out of here

I am a big fan of minimal screws and .... deep tuttle masts. That and full carbon is why I settled on Gofoil. I might have to stock up on tuttle gear while it's still available.

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Gorgo said..

I am a big fan of minimal screws and .... deep tuttle masts. That and full carbon is why I settled on Gofoil. I might have to stock up on tuttle gear while it's still available.

I like the tuttle too, less screwing around (haha), lighter, more streamlined, etc. Though you do lose some flexibility in adjusting stance and you can't as easily move to other boards.

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hilly said..

natho6026961 said. Could they do with an extra screw or two (GF+ System upgrade)?

Ha ha they do that I am out of here

I am a big fan of minimal screws and .... deep tuttle masts. That and full carbon is why I settled on Gofoil. I might have to stock up on tuttle gear while it's still available.

I can still get them in, just needs to be special order

Starting to nail in the quiver.
This is one of the worst foils I have had at this spot. Steep drop then no wall but it confirmed I need a GT1400nin the quiver. Was dropping off on the RS1150 first few waves then changed to the GT1400 much better. GoFoil made it fun.

Nice one Hilly.
The GT 1400 looks like a good replacement to my GL210. They have similar spec but the GT looks a lot faster and turns better.

How does the gt 1400 compare to army 1850?

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hilly said..
Starting to nail in the quiver.
This is one of the worst foils I have had at this spot. Steep drop then no wall but it confirmed I need a GT1400nin the quiver. Was dropping off on the RS1150 first few waves then changed to the GT1400 much better. GoFoil made it fun.

Fun little wave! What board and board size/volume, and paddle size are you using?

Were you using the FTS14.5?

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hilly said..
Starting to nail in the quiver.
This is one of the worst foils I have had at this spot. Steep drop then no wall but it confirmed I need a GT1400nin the quiver. Was dropping off on the RS1150 first few waves then changed to the GT1400 much better. GoFoil made it fun.

Fun little wave! What board and board size/volume, and paddle size are you using?

Were you using the FTS14.5?

6 6 125l quickblade V drive 85. Yes FTS14.5.

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north_kiter said..

hilly said..
Starting to nail in the quiver.
This is one of the worst foils I have had at this spot. Steep drop then no wall but it confirmed I need a GT1400nin the quiver. Was dropping off on the RS1150 first few waves then changed to the GT1400 much better. GoFoil made it fun.

Fun little wave! What board and board size/volume, and paddle size are you using?

Were you using the FTS14.5?

6 6 125l quickblade V drive 85. Yes FTS14.5.

What brand is the board or is it custom?

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hilly said..

north_kiter said..

hilly said..
Starting to nail in the quiver.
This is one of the worst foils I have had at this spot. Steep drop then no wall but it confirmed I need a GT1400nin the quiver. Was dropping off on the RS1150 first few waves then changed to the GT1400 much better. GoFoil made it fun.

Fun little wave! What board and board size/volume, and paddle size are you using?

Were you using the FTS14.5?

6 6 125l quickblade V drive 85. Yes FTS14.5.

What brand is the board or is it custom?

Custom Smik

Gt 1400 compared to army 1850 ?

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Fird said..
Gt 1400 compared to army 1850 ?

I have not ridden the 1850 for years found it to be slow and did not turn well. The 1400 is much better all round. The 1850 has a bit more slow speed lift.

Picked up the GF1150 today to demo and compare with my Armie gear when conditions permit next.
Here's pics for those interested in a side by side comparison of an Armie 1550V2 & 232 rear on 72cm mast with 60cm fuselage and the Gofoil RS1150 & FTS 14.5 on the 75cm mast.

Awesome work.
Hopefully you love it.

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RichJam said..
Awesome work.
Hopefully you love it.

I am sure he's gonna hate it unless he flips his gf stab.

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gzasinets said..

RichJam said..
Awesome work.
Hopefully you love it.

I am sure he's gonna hate it unless he flips his gf stab.

Haha.
he could have cat like balance and reflexes.

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RichJam said..
Awesome work.
Hopefully you love it.

I am sure he's gonna hate it unless he flips his gf stab.

Haha yeah, I wasn't going to take more pics after realising.
The one one screw for front and rear is great they certainly let themselves down with ****ty covers as everyones mentioned. Not performance limiting but needs to be better for top end gear.

Let us know how you go on the this and the other GF thread.

Back to the front wing fitting issue. I tried the wax solution and it works ok with the RS1300, but it does not work with the GT2200. After a 2 hours downwind (learning) and a lot of movement the wing was loose and the screw was also loose. Now I'm back to the gofoil stickers and hammering the wing, which is a pain.

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Back to the front wing fitting issue. I tried the wax solution and it works ok with the RS1300, but it does not work with the GT2200. After a 2 hours downwind (learning) and a lot of movement the wing was loose and the screw was also loose. Now I'm back to the gofoil stickers and hammering the wing, which is a pain.

Does the 2200 hit the end of the tongue? If so, you can trim the foil a touch so it can go deeper onto the tongue.

here

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Pacoo said..
Back to the front wing fitting issue. I tried the wax solution and it works ok with the RS1300, but it does not work with the GT2200. After a 2 hours downwind (learning) and a lot of movement the wing was loose and the screw was also loose. Now I'm back to the gofoil stickers and hammering the wing, which is a pain.

Does the 2200 hit the end of the tongue? If so, you can trim the foil a touch so it can go deeper onto the tongue.

Agreed. Sand here till the inside of the joint connects when you tap it in place with the mallet. I took probably 4mm off both my RS wings and they are much happier. 2 firm taps with the the mallet on a CLEAN connection takes it on and off.

this waxing the connection BS is giving me anxiety. Besides picking up sand and the wear it's going to give the appearance of a stiff connection when subjected to a finger wiggle but have even more movement when subjected to foiling forces.

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TooMuchEpoxy said..

hilly said..

Pacoo said..
Back to the front wing fitting issue. I tried the wax solution and it works ok with the RS1300, but it does not work with the GT2200. After a 2 hours downwind (learning) and a lot of movement the wing was loose and the screw was also loose. Now I'm back to the gofoil stickers and hammering the wing, which is a pain.

Does the 2200 hit the end of the tongue? If so, you can trim the foil a touch so it can go deeper onto the tongue.

Agreed. Sand here till the inside of the joint connects when you tap it in place with the mallet. I took probably 4mm off both my RS wings and they are much happier. 2 firm taps with the the mallet on a CLEAN connection takes it on and off.

this waxing the connection BS is giving me anxiety. Besides picking up sand and the wear it's going to give the appearance of a stiff connection when subjected to a finger wiggle but have even more movement when subjected to foiling forces.

Won't you end up with the same problem again later when the connection wears ?