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Ramona said..

saltiest1 said..

Ramona said..

saltiest1 said..
www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/sparkman-stephens-s-s39-built-by-prestige-yachts-bayswater-wa/286661


I'd sell mine tomorrow if it would achieve that level of coin.

Very nicely fitted out vessel but a little over priced.

www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1982-sparkman-stephens-39/SSE-AD-15617615/

slightly more reasonable perhaps

Lovely boat. Fine choice of autopilot. I take it the whole steering system is hydraulic?

Yes the autopilot is hydraulic but steering itself is chain / cable / quadrant with a very simple emergency tiller set up.

I really like the lines of Des Townson's boats and you don't see them come up often in Aus so interesting to me at least even if I'm not quite ready for a foray into big boats yet, dammit : )

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/townson-34/299047

DesT was a Kiwi yacht designer who imho never got the acclaim he deserved, along with Robert Stewart, Beau Birdsall and Alan Mummery.

Don't want to get into thread drift but see the below fyi.

natlib.govt.nz/items?exclude_filters_from_facets=false&i%5Bsubject_text%5D=Yacht+designers&page=3

lauriecollins.co.nz/boats/birdsall-pilothouse-hard-chine-displacement/

www.cityofsailsmarine.co.nz/yachts-for-sale/alan-mummery

www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/new-zealand-naval-architect-allan-mummery-59035.html

Mummery's Icefire was an absolute pearler

collection.maritimemuseum.co.nz/objects/48407/slide-icefire-2388

I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

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I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Wow 24 batteries would take up a fair bit of space and be fairly heavy not to mention expensive at around 400 apiece I would think. I was fairly shocked at the weight of the 120 amp hour lithium I put in my boat. I was expecting it to be a 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of a lead acid but it was well over half from memory.

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sydchris said..
I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Wow 24 batteries would take up a fair bit of space and be fairly heavy not to mention expensive at around 400 apiece I would think. I was fairly shocked at the weight of the 120 amp hour lithium I put in my boat. I was expecting it to be a 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of a lead acid but it was well over half from memory.

The Web is saying 10 kg each, so 240 kg. A 2gm20 is 110kg without box? Add some fuel and it seems it might be 50 kg more?
Quieter, no skin fittings, no smell, minimal maintenance, I do see the attraction. It would be nice and free seeming to just idle an electric at nominal "what you are getting from the solar array" speed as an assist to motor sail in light conditions.

NOT the Andiamo that recently burned to the waterline!, but a 30' Swanson at a keen price -

m.facebook.com/groups/566833633334697/permalink/25381220428136007/?mibextid=Nif5oz

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NOT the Andiamo that recently burned to the waterline!, but a 30' Swanson at a keen price -

m.facebook.com/groups/566833633334697/permalink/25381220428136007/?mibextid=Nif5oz

I presume it's a Bukh 10 ahead of the mast. A photo would help. Good value anyway!

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julesmoto said..

sydchris said..
I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Wow 24 batteries would take up a fair bit of space and be fairly heavy not to mention expensive at around 400 apiece I would think. I was fairly shocked at the weight of the 120 amp hour lithium I put in my boat. I was expecting it to be a 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of a lead acid but it was well over half from memory.

The Web is saying 10 kg each, so 240 kg. A 2gm20 is 110kg without box? Add some fuel and it seems it might be 50 kg more?
Quieter, no skin fittings, no smell, minimal maintenance, I do see the attraction. It would be nice and free seeming to just idle an electric at nominal "what you are getting from the solar array" speed as an assist to motor sail in light conditions.

Yes lack of skin fittings, oil, deisel and water filters and impellers would be great but the cost of the lithiums is quite substantial.

I bought one of the cheaper lithiums for my trailer sailer but when I got it home I suddenly noticed that it advertised the number of cycles as way less than half of some other more expensive brands. Apparently recycling the cells is a big thing so some of these cheaper batteries are undoubtedly used cells or ones that fail the uniform voltage tests.
Claimed cycle life seems to vary from 1000 to over 5,000.

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sparau said..

julesmoto said..

sydchris said..
I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Wow 24 batteries would take up a fair bit of space and be fairly heavy not to mention expensive at around 400 apiece I would think. I was fairly shocked at the weight of the 120 amp hour lithium I put in my boat. I was expecting it to be a 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of a lead acid but it was well over half from memory.

The Web is saying 10 kg each, so 240 kg. A 2gm20 is 110kg without box? Add some fuel and it seems it might be 50 kg more?
Quieter, no skin fittings, no smell, minimal maintenance, I do see the attraction. It would be nice and free seeming to just idle an electric at nominal "what you are getting from the solar array" speed as an assist to motor sail in light conditions.

Yes lack of skin fittings, oil, deisel and water filters and impellers would be great but the cost of the lithiums is quite substantial.

I bought one of the cheaper lithiums for my trailer sailer but when I got it home I suddenly noticed that it advertised the number of cycles as way less than half of some other more expensive brands. Apparently recycling the cells is a big thing so some of these cheaper batteries are undoubtedly used cells or ones that fail the uniform voltage tests.
Claimed cycle life seems to vary from 1000 to over 5,000.

I'm pretty sure electric motors need cooling so there will probably be a need for a skin fitting. Commercial electric set ups I have seen need cooling and some have raw water cooled s/s battery boxes.

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I'm pretty sure electric motors need cooling so there will probably be a need for a skin fitting. Commercial electric set ups I have seen need cooling and some have raw water cooled s/s battery boxes.

There is a pretty good photo of the install and there doesn't appear to be plumbing, I'm pretty sure you could get air cooled and water cooled motors although there is a possibility of a duty cycle with an air cooled.

Lovely Marieholm 26 with a diesel inboard.

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/324612476642922/?ref=saved&referral_code=null

Worth a look for 3K - If centreboard not stuck/get wheels on trailer ?
yachthub.com/sonata 6 1980

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sydchris said..
I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Nice example of a Currawong with lots of original features.

From the photos, it looks to me like the the "2 x 4.8kwh Lithium Battery Banks" comprise of 2 banks of four 100Ah 12Volt batteries. The "2 4" should say "2 x 4". Four batteries x 100Ah x 12V = 4.8kWhr. So there are 8 batteries in total weighing about 80kg at cost of about $3K which is probably less $ and less kg than a new engine & tank.

It sure solves the limited engine access problems that Currawongs have, but on the negative side, being a heavy boat, Currawongs are a bit dependent on motors for cruising. You wouldn't have much range. Deliveries up and down the east coast would be a major undertaking.

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sydchris said..
I sold this last year, new owner took out the Volvo and replaced it with electric, nice conversion. Now back on the market.

www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/sailing-boats/currawong-30/299154

Nice example of a Currawong with lots of original features.

From the photos, it looks to me like the the "2 x 4.8kwh Lithium Battery Banks" comprise of 2 banks of four 100Ah 12Volt batteries. The "2 4" should say "2 x 4". Four batteries x 100Ah x 12V = 4.8kWhr. So there are 8 batteries in total weighing about 80kg at cost of about $3K which is probably less $ and less kg than a new engine & tank.

It sure solves the limited engine access problems that Currawongs have, but on the negative side, being a heavy boat, Currawongs are a bit dependent on motors for cruising. You wouldn't have much range. Deliveries up and down the east coast would be a major undertaking.

I estimated the range of that set up at about 25 nm at full power and 5 kts. Scale it up by a factor of 4 and it would be the same as Kinora's DV20 (2 litre/hr) with a 40 litre tank. If there was a way to replace some of the lead in the keel with batteries then the weight can be put to good use. The main factors are then charging and cost. Charging ~20 kWhr of capacity with my 3 x 55 W panels would take a very long time but more solar panels and a wind generator might keep the time plugged into a shore-based charging point to an hour or so. Cost is still prohibitive but the rest of the technology seems to be getting closer to possible.

Eliminating the access issues would be a big plus. I have to refit the cap on the pressure vent at the back of the gearbox and will either have to remove the alternator and potentially the exhaust to do it myself or pay someone small to do it.

Cheers,
Kinora

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www.grays.com/lot/0001-50018774/power-boats/1973-53ft-spencer-centre-console-yacht-no-reserve?fbclid=IwAR29_E3YTz3eItof14aJ8wYP2pVB_lme_w7q7Ur63KrHXKLU_D46ekoVmt0

A Great Cruising/ Live aboard

Would have to sell the house, to keep up with the maintenance !!! ??

Cheers

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Andrew68 said..

"It would be the same as Kinora's DV20 (2 litre/hr) with a 40 litre tank.....

My Currawong had a 60 litre main tank and for extended Bass Strait trips I would take another 70 litres in jerry cans.

I have owned and sailed one like this. Truly a delightful boat to sail.

Flying Dutchman Dinghy | Sail Boats | Gumtree Australia Mornington Peninsula - Mount Martha | 1317389578

Always respect a boat vendor who includes pictures of the bilges and keel bolts.

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Kinora said..

Andrew68 said..

"It would be the same as Kinora's DV20 (2 litre/hr) with a 40 litre tank.....

My Currawong had a 60 litre main tank and for extended Bass Strait trips I would take another 70 litres in jerry cans.

Hi Andrew, thanks for your reply, that's very useful information. I might start another thread on this subject to avoid drift on this very interesting thread about boats I should have bought ...

K.

Magic Dragon Currawong 30 back on auction.
www.marineauctions.com.au/forthcoming-auctions/1972-currawong-30-masthead-sloop-magic-dragon/

www.australiawide.com/australiawide/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/compass-yachts-easterly/301277/

thoughts on this one, I have a friend in the market looking and not familiar with the design or builder

Good yacht, strongly and well built. See prior post;

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Sailing/General/Anyone-know-the-brand-of-this-yacht?page=1#6

Claude Smith was the NZ designer, Don Lees the Compass Yachts Aust builder. Callipyge was probably built by Compass Yachts NZ (very good builder) and did very well racing out of Sydney Harbour in its first few years.

sailboatdata.com/sailboat/easterly-30-smith/

sites.google.com/site/compassyachtgroup/home

1981 GK Westerly 24 foot triple diagonal & epoxywww.facebook.com/marketplace/item/606614331163030/?ref=browse_tab&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks

1962 Tasman Seabird seabird

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1962 Tasman Seabird seabird

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I gave the new owner a hand to put her up on the local slips and got the chance for a close inspection. She was called Waterwitch at the time. Lovely boat and was built at a time when wealthy people only owned yachts!

Something a little different. That's roughly 7,200 AUD!!!!!!!!

www.blocket.se/annons/stockholm/van_de_stadt_34/1400157918?fbclid=IwAR2jKYHGoOPKMGzvF27GlBbtCYZ-Dz3PQYX0qqkX_Y2iqDID20mnGdjqFKA

This looks to be lots of fun well set up money been spent www.boatsales.com.au/boats/photogallery/?pageSource=photogallery&index=0&networkId=SSE-AD-6399383

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Ramona said..

MAGNESIUM said..
1962 Tasman Seabird seabird

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I gave the new owner a hand to put her up on the local slips and got the chance for a close inspection. She was called Waterwitch at the time. Lovely boat and was built at a time when wealthy people only owned yachts!

Jock Sturrock's boat when new, I think.