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Looks like quick boat in light/moderate conditions. Was the footage taken from a drone, operated from a motor boat close by?

Drone was flown out from Gerringong. Aztec is fast in all breezes. Two Sydney Hobart's but I don't have the results handy.

www.facebook.com/100057595592986/posts/663740138889167/

Looks to tick all the boxes.

This is a really nice boat and good value.

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Ramona said..
This is a really nice boat and good value.

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Yes, I noticed this boat a few weeks ago.
It's well set up for long distance cruising and looks very capable.
Is the Cape Horn windvane directly connected to the rudder post, when in use?

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Ramona said..
This is a really nice boat and good value.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/magpie-34/286829

Yes, I noticed this boat a few weeks ago.
It's well set up for long distance cruising and looks very capable.
Is the Cape Horn windvane directly connected to the rudder post, when in use?

I checked this boat out and talked to the owner awhile back when she was passing through.
The Cape Horn has pushrods through the stern normally though this page mentions control lines. They seem flexible with the arrangement.
caphorn.com/en/how-capehorn-makes-boats-steer-themselves/

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Ramona said..
This is a really nice boat and good value.

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Jolie Brise is 2 berths down on the same jetty as Kinora at Raymond Island. I've met the owner several times in the 2 years I've been there but only realised the other day we'd first met at Refuge Cove, Pittwater in 2021 when I picked Kinora up for the delivery. It's a small world ...

Cutter rig with self-furler on the inner forestay and running backstays. She's a lovely,solid cruising boat.

K.

At the risk of twisting this thread:
I would love to hear user experience with the Cape Horn vane, as it seems to be less comon than the other servo-pendulum brands. It seems to have a complicated dis-engage system below decks. External parts could be stronger than Fleming/Aries/etc; who knows?
I note that the supposedly tough-as-nails Hydrovane have had a fair amount of trouble in the Golden Globe Race.

BTW: Jolie Brise takes her name from a French-built, British-sailes channel pilot cutter circa 1900, and still winning races today. Respect!

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At the risk of twisting this thread:
I would love to hear user experience with the Cape Horn vane, as it seems to be less comon than the other servo-pendulum brands. It seems to have a complicated dis-engage system below decks. External parts could be stronger than Fleming/Aries/etc; who knows?
I note that the supposedly tough-as-nails Hydrovane have had a fair amount of trouble in the Golden Globe Race.

BTW: Jolie Brise takes her name from a French-built, British-sailes channel pilot cutter circa 1900, and still winning races today. Respect!

Just buy an Aries and stop over thinking. The Cape Horn is fairly rare here. I have seen two. The Hydrovanes have certainly had a bad run in this current race. The last one breaking the rudder blade might be just bad seamanship. Hooking a drogue rope around the blade would break any windvane self steering.

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At the risk of twisting this thread:
I would love to hear user experience with the Cape Horn vane, as it seems to be less comon than the other servo-pendulum brands. It seems to have a complicated dis-engage system below decks. External parts could be stronger than Fleming/Aries/etc; who knows?
I note that the supposedly tough-as-nails Hydrovane have had a fair amount of trouble in the Golden Globe Race.

BTW: Jolie Brise takes her name from a French-built, British-sailes channel pilot cutter circa 1900, and still winning races today. Respect!

Sailing Uma YouTubers use it and they have an installation video plus a shorter one here at 8 minutes 10 to 11min approx. Ask them how it is going as they have had it for quite a while now: transatlantic, Arctic etcetera and they do answer questions fairly promptly.
I have always thought that if I were to purchase one new I would get this one.

I like it because there are not lines all over the cockpit/exterior but the downside might be that you have to leave the lazarette fairly free of gear so as to not risk fouling the control lines.

A very unloved (damaged ) boat.
First saw it being auctioned by Pickles in January. There it was identified as having some significant structural damage. Was sold, missed the selling price then photos removed late feb.

Offered for sale on Facebook Marketplace with the price coming down from I think 30k, 20k,9k, some of the photos showed a pair of bolt cutters so I'm thinking the buyer didn't pick it up and the marina (RMYC?) are trying to dispose of it now.

I'm wondering what happened to it, T-boned and insurance write off? Looks like a bit of water damage inside as well as the damaged frames.

www.grays.com/lot/0001-20020622/power-boats/inglis-ca-bouge-38

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/667860841775875

www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/No-C-P-Inglis-38/82705

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A very unloved (damaged ) boat.
First saw it being auctioned by Pickles in January. There it was identified as having some significant structural damage. Was sold, missed the selling price then photos removed late feb.

Offered for sale on Facebook Marketplace with the price coming down from I think 30k, 20k,9k, some of the photos showed a pair of bolt cutters so I'm thinking the buyer didn't pick it up and the marina (RMYC?) are trying to dispose of it now.

I'm wondering what happened to it, T-boned and insurance write off? Looks like a bit of water damage inside as well as the damaged frames.

www.grays.com/lot/0001-20020622/power-boats/inglis-ca-bouge-38

www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/667860841775875

www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/No-C-P-Inglis-38/82705

Grays auction ends Wed. No reserve.

This is a clean unit for a good price;

Check out this 1976 FOLKBOAT 26 on boatsales.com.au: boatsales.com.au/_/details/SSE-AD-14784032

For the Cole enthusiast. I think it's exceptional value.

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Ramona said..
For the Cole enthusiast. I think it's exceptional value.

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Looks great although single spreader masthead rig implies short rig. Would want to work your moisture meter overtime before buying but I love the lack of internal liners. Its a real advantage so you can see the construction and the state of things including all through deck bolting.

Bit annoying that they just say fin keel without specifying lead or iron.

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keensailor said..
This is a clean unit for a good price;

Check out this 1976 FOLKBOAT 26 on boatsales.com.au: boatsales.com.au/_/details/SSE-AD-14784032

They sail beautifully (so well balanced you barely need to steer upwind) and faster than a Tophat but pretty wet (check out attire in pic including GF pants) and absolutely no standing or even much crouching headroom inside. Watch out for osmosis particularly in the rudder.

Many happy miles single handing my dad's or with with my girlfriend (later wife) 45 years ago. Might be tempted to wait for a Mariholm 26 for the extra headroom and freeboard or even a pop-top version if it is only to be a daysailer.

Plenty of circumnavigations to their credit.

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This looks good value and a large cruiser, with a good size 50hp Perkins engine.
I am familiar with the USA Catalina yachts and have sailed one, I thought was comfortable. I have not seen Cal yachts before.
Has anyone sailed one?

Cals aren't Catalinas. Catalinas lead the US production market into fin and spade rudder with the Cal 40 which dominated US racing for years (although the Cal 40 on the US Admiral's Cup team in '67 was beaten across the line by Australia's light but long keeled Mercedes III) but were true racer/cruisers.

I've never sailed one but they are legendary in the USA, but older than Catalinas which are cruisier boats from different designers.

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Ramona said..
For the Cole enthusiast. I think it's exceptional value.

yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/cole-43/273241

Looks great although single spreader masthead rig implies short rig. Would want to work your moisture meter overtime before buying but I love the lack of internal liners. Its a real advantage so you can see the construction and the state of things including all through deck bolting.

Bit annoying that they just say fin keel without specifying lead or iron.

I bet my left nut it's a lead keel!

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This looks good value and a large cruiser, with a good size 50hp Perkins engine.
I am familiar with the USA Catalina yachts and have sailed one, I thought was comfortable. I have not seen Cal yachts before.
Has anyone sailed one?

They are probably the most common yacht in the USA. I have not sailed one.

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Chris 249 said..
Cals aren't Catalinas. Catalinas lead the US production market into fin and spade rudder with the Cal 40 which dominated US racing for years (although the Cal 40 on the US Admiral's Cup team in '67 was beaten across the line by Australia's light but long keeled Mercedes III) but were true racer/cruisers.

I've never sailed one but they are legendary in the USA, but older than Catalinas which are cruisier boats from different designers.

Yes, I understand they are different boats, as I previously indicated and both USA designs..
Do the Cals have a long full keel rather than a fin keel?
Are Catalina's a faster boat?

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BeamReach said..
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This looks good value and a large cruiser, with a good size 50hp Perkins engine.
I am familiar with the USA Catalina yachts and have sailed one, I thought was comfortable. I have not seen Cal yachts before.
Has anyone sailed one?

Should have exceptional directional stability with a rudder that far back and that deep :-)

The Cals come in an enormous range of sizes. They are moderate fin keel yachts made for the masses. The Americans are not that fond of dinghy sailing and generally sail daysailers and small keel yachts instead. It is not uncommon to see large fleets of Cal 20's racing.

The thread title is "interesting" boats for sale. This one qualifies as interesting.

A 30 ft yacht built from galvanised steel and displacing 4.5 tonne. Not too many steel yachts fit that slot. Built by Kingaroy Engineering and designed by Vern Clark. No out of water shots but from the pics looks to be a fairly nimble yacht.

The big question is whether a breach of the protective coating exposing the galvanizing will result in it being blown off by electrolysis. Apart from that the yacht looks to be very well put together.
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cisco said..
The thread title is "interesting" boats for sale. This one qualifies as interesting.

A 30 ft yacht built from galvanised steel and displacing 4.5 tonne. Not too many steel yachts fit that slot. Built by Kingaroy Engineering and designed by Vern Clark. No out of water shots but from the pics looks to be a fairly nimble yacht.

The big question is whether a breach of the protective coating exposing the galvanizing will result in it being blown off by electrolysis. Apart from that the yacht looks to be very well put together.
yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/custom-yacht/289988

Surely the whole boat couldn't have been dipped so all the weld lines would not be galvanised. If so not much use.

It could have been sandblasted and hot zinc sprayed like the Navy did on the decks of HMAS Stalwart when I was serving on her.

I am just going by what the ad says and as I said I question the value of galvanizing as it makes the protective coating sacrificial, underwater at least. I will be talking with the broker later today to get more info.

The hull and the deck are galvanized but I believe the cabin top and cockpit are timber. Some Adams 33/35s were built like this to take the deck and cabin to moulding of the Mottle 33. I have seen an Adams 28 built in this fashion.

Like I said this is the "interesting" boats for sale thread.

pearler

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This looks nice
derwentboats.com.au/derwent/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/north-sea-31-huon-pine-sloop-freshly-painted-hull-deck-capable-well-built/286566/

Just spotted Bill Hatfield's circumnavigating Northshore 38 L'eau Commotion a few births up from where we have pulled in to get the freezer fixed at Scarborough Marina. It has a "For Sale" sign on it.
Is not in the greatest condition with full length aluminium rubbing strake missing on both sides exposing hull deck join and Windpilot gone as well as generally looking a bit sad with frypan, jerry can and towel in the cockpit as if a squatter has been sleeping there.
It's glory days were only a few years ago too. Sad. Maybe he is sick or has passed away.

What are the odds of you spotting it on your passage??
That's Sad news to fall in disrepair...
Did you take a photo?
Cheers.