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Mr Milk said.. I had to think about that for a while, but over the course of 50km cogitating, it came to me. Polarised gravity.

I've often wondered if antimatter has anti gravity, I'm not sue about polarised.

Wonder no more
home.cern/news/press-release/physics/alpha-experiment-cern-observes-influence-gravity-antimatter

Thanks Mr Milk.
That blows the theory that antimatter was repulsed in the Big Bang, and that's why we don't see it now.

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FormulaNova said..
I see... AI is a government con to entrap us all into something or other...

Whatever it says is clearly a lie, unless it agrees with me.

Well all know that water finds its level, and if the earth were round it would all fall off. Obviously

There's that Scientific Illiteracy in action. Gravity works in all directions, so the water is attracted to the centre of the disc.
Also, how do you know that there isn't an elevated rim?

So if gravity works in all directions, that means up, down, left, right, forward, and backwards, sort of like x y z axis's, which therefore tend to create spherical shapes, not discs, which only work on side to side forces?! Just asking? And why would you need an elevated rim, since you're thinking the water gathers into the middle, it's not exactly going to run off the edge is it? Or are you wrong?

Is that so? Then why is the Milky Way claimed to be a flat spiral?
I didn't say that a rim was necessary, only that it is within the bounds of possibility.
And don't ignore the polarisation of gravity. Didn't you see the brief bit of excitement last week about the picture that astronomers constructed of the area around the event horizon of Sagittarius A* showing polarity?

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Mr Milk said..
Is that so? Then why is the Milky Way claimed to be a flat spiral?

I would guess its because its rotating and was formed from rotating masses, each imparting some gravitational force to the others.

Clearly it doesn't mean the objects within it have to be disc shaped. From what I have read, more like a turtle shell.

The solar system is also a flat disc shape. Anything not in the same plane will eventually get eliminated by collisions

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Mr Milk said..
Is that so? Then why is the Milky Way claimed to be a flat spiral?
I didn't say that a rim was necessary, only that it is within the bounds of possibility.
And don't ignore the polarisation of gravity. Didn't you see the brief bit of excitement last week about the picture that astronomers constructed of the area around the event horizon of Sagittarius A* showing polarity?

Thanks, Carantoc.
So It's not polarised gravity, it's polarised light, created by the black hole's magnetism.

I suspect gravity can't be polarised, electromagnetic radiation can, because it depends on the relation ship of the 2 elements, as far as I know gravity is only one element. But I stand to be corrected here, above my pay grade

Gravity manifests as waves, much like other universal forces, including electro-magnetism.

And so long as waves are not purely longitudinal to the direction of travel, then all waves can be polarised.


edit : well gravity is theorised to manifest as waves and things understood to be gravity waves have been detected acouple of times, but exactly what is going on I believe is still up for some debate.

So can you polarise sound waves?
I doubt it.

Because Electromagnetic waves are composed of magnetic and electrostatic forces at right angles to each other. they have an orientation. That's why you see TV antennas either vertical or horizontal. it's a way of separating stations, they are polarised in different directions.
Where as sound and gravity are not composed of two elements. so they look the same no matter how you turn them.

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Looks like I'm wrong again, wikipedia says gravity waves can be polarised, but at a different angle to light.

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decrepit said..
So can you polarise sound waves?
I doubt it.

Because Electromagnetic waves are composed of magnetic and electrostatic forces at right angles to each other. they have an orientation. That's why you see TV antennas either vertical or horizontal. it's a way of separating stations, they are polarised in different directions.
Where as sound and gravity are not composed of two elements. so they look the same no matter how you turn them.

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Looks like I'm wrong again, wikipedia says gravity waves can be polarised, but at a different angle to light.

You mean I'm right??!! Potentially.
Have I found a new way to support the flat earth?

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decrepit said..
So can you polarise sound waves?
I doubt it.

Because Electromagnetic waves are composed of magnetic and electrostatic forces at right angles to each other. they have an orientation. That's why you see TV antennas either vertical or horizontal. it's a way of separating stations, they are polarised in different directions.
Where as sound and gravity are not composed of two elements. so they look the same no matter how you turn them.

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Looks like I'm wrong again, wikipedia says gravity waves can be polarised, but at a different angle to light.

You mean I'm right??!! Potentially.
Have I found a new way discovered the way they use to support the flat earth?

Ssshh... all this sounds unbelievable until you look at the physics, and then it's clearly the way we do it... while we are oppressing the masses with thinking the earth is round we can charge much more for airfares!

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So can you polarise sound waves?
I doubt it.

No, because sound waves are a compression travelling through a medium. The wave propogates longitudinally to the direction the wave travels.

The polarise it the wave has to propogate transverse to travel direction.

Think of it like a wave travelling tthough a slit the width the the rope. If you lie a rope on the ground and wave it about left to right to make waves travel along it, then the waves it would pass though a horizontal slit, but not a vertical slit - and thus become polarised.

But if it was a compression wave travelling up and down the rope, along its length, then it would pass through the slit no matter the orientation.

I have no idea what gravity waves are. If they can be polarised then I assume something conceptually similar to an electro-magnetic wave, where the electro-part propogates along the megnetic-part and the magnetic part along the electro part, perpendicular to each other.

Presumably gravity is related to mass and space ?, can't propogate without them ?

yes, that seems logical, if it's a distortion of space time, it needs space to distort, but I'm not sure about needing mass to propagate? It obviously needs mass to create it.

Driving west the other night. Spectacular sunset which started with the upper layer
of clouds reflecting the sun and finished with the underside a radiant red as the sun disappeared below the horizon. Anyone come across the FE hypothesis that explains this quite common phenomenon?

Picture a game of two up on a cosmic scale

So it's polarised light not polarised gravity. You had me going there. I was WTF is polarised gravity?

Hey Pete, here's a genuine scientist, a physicist to be more precise. She is appalled by the growth of flat earth belief. I'll let her speak for herself. ?si=aKRzFiIt3tS3rX4a

And that why isn't the horizon curved question you keep referring to is the wrong question.
The right question is why does the horizon show so little curve?
The answer is that it's a very big circle and you are standing in the middle of it only a small distance above it.

A circle is not a sphere lol.

The horizon is a circle on a sphere.
What do you get if you cut a slice off a sphere?

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Pcdefender said..
A circle is not a sphere lol.

An imbecile is not an idiot.

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GasHazard said..
The horizon is a circle on a sphere.
What do you get if you cut a slice off a sphere?

Correct but if we are living on a sphere you would be looking down at the horizon.

The horizon ALWAYS rises to eye level even on an air o plane.

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remery said..

Pcdefender said..
A circle is not a sphere lol.

An imbecile is not an idiot.

Is it just my imagination or do the mods on here have their favourites?

Why can I see the sun reflecting from the underside of an aeroplane flying west to east at cruising altitude just after sunset?

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Pcdefender said..

Is it just my imagination or do the mods on here have their favourites?

A whinger is not a whiner.

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The horizon ALWAYS rises to eye level even on an air o plane.

How does that work on a flat earth?

Seems completely contradictory to basic geometry.

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D3 said..

How does that work on a flat earth?

Seems completely contradictory to basic geometry.

Branches of rigorous, investigative, data-driven research that end in "...ometry", or "...ology" are beyond the understanding of some people.

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GasHazard said..
The horizon is a circle on a sphere.
What do you get if you cut a slice off a sphere?

Correct but if we are living on a sphere you would be looking down at the horizon.

The horizon ALWAYS rises to eye level even on an air o plane.

That's the FE dogma but have you ever tested it? The way to test it is with survey kit. You set up a dumpy level carefully on a on a sandbar so it's perpendicular and horizontal (they have bubble levels for that) and sweep it around over the water. If you've done it correctly you'll find the horizon is slightly below the centre of the telescope reticle everywhere.

I guess you haven't done that but you could present it as a challenge to your FE colleagues. They've gone to some lengths to prove things in the past.