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LWjay said..

Johndesu said..

hilly said..

LWjay said..
I am looking to buy the 55 @ 88L. I am still learning , so i have the CF2400. Has anyone tested a larger foil on these boards. Are the track to far forward to use these bigger foils ?

Tracks are extra-long so it should be fine.

Yes but I think he wants to know if the Tracks go far back enough (towards the tail?:-)

Yes Exactly. I managed to talk to Armie and he told me that with the 88L I should be fine with my 2400 with +2 shim. I imagine that as the board come out more tests will be made.

By extra long I meant you have lots of movement fore and aft for your mast so you can accommodate the 2400

Ok, just picked up the 75Lm 5'2" board. Getting weight of 5.9 kg. Board looks sweet. The handle is angled so more forward up top and more backward on the bottom

Looking for recommendations for mast placement for any foils ie 1250/1550/1850/2400 ;o)

Got your old board? I plan on lining them up and finding the starting point at least.

I will start with the Kane De Wilde balance method as a starting point.

The theory is to reduce swing weight. I am going to measure front strap to mast on my present setup, 450mm, and repeat on the FG board using the front strap.

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Foilnut said..
Ok, just picked up the 75Lm 5'2" board. Getting weight of 5.9 kg. Board looks sweet. The handle is angled so more forward up top and more backward on the bottom

Looking for recommendations for mast placement for any foils ie 1250/1550/1850/2400 ;o)

Hi there
Your board looks good but can you please tell me about the concave/dug out deck, is there a proper curved concave from rail to rail or is the deck fairly flat but just recessed dug out?:-)

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Foilnut said..
Ok, just picked up the 75Lm 5'2" board. Getting weight of 5.9 kg. Board looks sweet. The handle is angled so more forward up top and more backward on the bottom

Looking for recommendations for mast placement for any foils ie 1250/1550/1850/2400 ;o)

Hi there
Your board looks good but can you please tell me about the concave/dug out deck, is there a proper curved concave from rail to rail or is the deck fairly flat but just recessed dug out?:-)

Concave goes rail to rail and even a hair for/aft, which gives a nice 'cant bed' (snowboarding lingo) feeling (easy on the knees).
quick vid from today's session. Flood tide with the wind ruled out the swell riding I was hoping for with the 1125, but fun nonetheless!


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Nice video. Still waiting for wind here. A couple questions

- how did you mount the rear foot strap on top of the kick pad?
- do you know if the vent plug is a gore-tex self venting

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Foilnut said..
Nice video. Still waiting for wind here. A couple questions

- how did you mount the rear foot strap on top of the kick pad?
- do you know if the vent plug is a gore-tex self venting

Edit - added photo

Thanks!

I drilled through the carbon kickpad to allow the offset rear strap placement. Made a paper template and used that to mark the tail pad for the holes. I had the straps way too loose that session (used to riding with booties).

The vent is self venting.

I noticed the boards include PVC Reinforcements and covered with carbon fiber and Dyneema cloth.

Anyone aware of dyneema cloth being used in other board layups? Sounds like a lighter/stronger replacement for the typical fiberglass cloth used as a top sheet in a layup. Pretty rad!

The FG boards are completely different from v1, and bare a resemblance to One boards. But One boards don't have concaves on the bottom. I believe the nose on the FG also has more kick. Keeping fingers crossed for Friday arrival.

Nice work MidAdlanticFoil in regards to the template etc. In regards to your footstraps have you had any issues with them cutting up your front foot? I have and am wondering perhaps I just have them to loose.

FoilNut good to hear about the weight on the 5'2. It's actually heavier than what I had managed to track down. Perhaps the below weights are mostly with no real foot plate. What weight were you on the 5'2 and how have you gone with it?

Weights:

Wing Sup:

Wing Sup 4'8" x 22 1/2" x 3 3/4". 50L - Unknown

Wing Sup 4'11" x 23 1/2" x 4 1/4". 60L - 4.58KG Reported From Owner

Wing Sup 5'2" x 26" x 4 1/2" (159cm) 75L?5.2KG - From Armstrong Foils

Wing Sup 5'5" x 27" x 4 3/4"(163cm) 88L? 5.8KG From Armstrong Foils

5'8" x 28" x 4 7/8". 99L - 6.1K From Armstrong Foils

5'11" x 29 1/4" x 5". 115L - 6.9 kg (w/ 1 footstrap & rear foot plate) - reported from owner.

6'4" x 31 1/4" x 5 1/4". 132L - Unknown weight


Wing Surf

4' x 18" x 2 1/2". 27L - 3kg From Armstrong Foils

4'5" x 20" x 2 3/4". 34L - 3.2 kg (7.2lbs) (from Matt Muzzo) - given by Armstrong staff said about 3.4kg

4'10" x 21" x 3". 39L - 3.8kg - From Armstrong Foils

I have a 4'5 Wing Surf on order and am considering a Wing Sup 5'5 or 5'8. I am 85kg and currently ride a 97L 6ft Sunova Aviator and also a One 93L 5'10 no probs. I am thinking the 5'8 might be the go for SUP foiling. Has anyone around my weight gone these sizes and if so why?

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Nice work MidAdlanticFoil in regards to the template etc. In regards to your footstraps have you had any issues with them cutting up your front foot? I have and am wondering perhaps I just have them to loose.

FoilNut good to hear about the weight on the 5'2. It's actually heavier than what I had managed to track down. Perhaps the below weights are mostly with no real foot plate. What weight were you on the 5'2 and how have you gone with it?

Weights:

Wing Sup:

Wing Sup 4'8" x 22 1/2" x 3 3/4". 50L - Unknown

Wing Sup 4'11" x 23 1/2" x 4 1/4". 60L - 4.58KG Reported From Owner

Wing Sup 5'2" x 26" x 4 1/2" (159cm) 75L?5.2KG - From Armstrong Foils

Wing Sup 5'5" x 27" x 4 3/4"(163cm) 88L? 5.8KG From Armstrong Foils

5'8" x 28" x 4 7/8". 99L - 6.1K From Armstrong Foils

5'11" x 29 1/4" x 5". 115L - 6.9 kg (w/ 1 footstrap & rear foot plate) - reported from owner.

6'4" x 31 1/4" x 5 1/4". 132L - Unknown weight


Wing Surf

4' x 18" x 2 1/2". 27L - 3kg From Armstrong Foils

4'5" x 20" x 2 3/4". 34L - 3.2 kg (7.2lbs) (from Matt Muzzo) - given by Armstrong staff said about 3.4kg

4'10" x 21" x 3". 39L - 3.8kg - From Armstrong Foils

I have a 4'5 Wing Surf on order and am considering a Wing Sup 5'5 or 5'8. I am 85kg and currently ride a 97L 6ft Sunova Aviator and also a One 93L 5'10 no probs. I am thinking the 5'8 might be the go for SUP foiling. Has anyone around my weight gone these sizes and if so why?

Dave101

So we are in the summer doldrums so not much time on the board. I got short session in around 12/13 knots. I am 85kg and the 75l board sinks about 4-5". Getting up was pretty tricky. This was my first time on a board this small so some learning on this. I was riding the Cf2400 at position 5. Once I got a gust board flew with what seemed a single pump so do feel that early release. Next session with the 2400 I will try at 4 and 3 as lift came with not a lot of forward speed. Pretty cool being able to look through the hole and see the foil below. Water is gone right away. Board handles great and jibes smoothly.

At least to start I probably want over 15 knots.

Picture below of the 75l -5'8" compared to 90l Phazer -5'8" that I have been riding steady for the last several months. For me the Phazer is a semi sinker

Cannot wait for a good wind session to get the Armstrong 75l board out.Once I have some board time I can try foot straps. Jumping should be amazing.

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Foilnut said..

dave101 said..
Nice work MidAdlanticFoil in regards to the template etc. In regards to your footstraps have you had any issues with them cutting up your front foot? I have and am wondering perhaps I just have them to loose.

FoilNut good to hear about the weight on the 5'2. It's actually heavier than what I had managed to track down. Perhaps the below weights are mostly with no real foot plate. What weight were you on the 5'2 and how have you gone with it?

Weights:

Wing Sup:

Wing Sup 4'8" x 22 1/2" x 3 3/4". 50L - Unknown

Wing Sup 4'11" x 23 1/2" x 4 1/4". 60L - 4.58KG Reported From Owner

Wing Sup 5'2" x 26" x 4 1/2" (159cm) 75L?5.2KG - From Armstrong Foils

Wing Sup 5'5" x 27" x 4 3/4"(163cm) 88L? 5.8KG From Armstrong Foils

5'8" x 28" x 4 7/8". 99L - 6.1K From Armstrong Foils

5'11" x 29 1/4" x 5". 115L - 6.9 kg (w/ 1 footstrap & rear foot plate) - reported from owner.

6'4" x 31 1/4" x 5 1/4". 132L - Unknown weight


Wing Surf

4' x 18" x 2 1/2". 27L - 3kg From Armstrong Foils

4'5" x 20" x 2 3/4". 34L - 3.2 kg (7.2lbs) (from Matt Muzzo) - given by Armstrong staff said about 3.4kg

4'10" x 21" x 3". 39L - 3.8kg - From Armstrong Foils

I have a 4'5 Wing Surf on order and am considering a Wing Sup 5'5 or 5'8. I am 85kg and currently ride a 97L 6ft Sunova Aviator and also a One 93L 5'10 no probs. I am thinking the 5'8 might be the go for SUP foiling. Has anyone around my weight gone these sizes and if so why?

Dave101

So we are in the summer doldrums so not much time on the board. I got short session in around 12/13 knots. I am 85kg and the 75l board sinks about 4-5". Getting up was pretty tricky. This was my first time on a board this small so some learning on this. I was riding the Cf2400 at position 5. Once I got a gust board flew with what seemed a single pump so do feel that early release. Next session with the 2400 I will try at 4 and 3 as lift came with not a lot of forward speed. Pretty cool being able to look through the hole and see the foil below. Water is gone right away. Board handles great and jibes smoothly.

At least to start I probably want over 15 knots.

Picture below of the 75l -5'8" compared to 90l Phazer -5'8" that I have been riding steady for the last several months. For me the Phazer is a semi sinker

Cannot wait for a good wind session to get the Armstrong 75l board out.Once I have some board time I can try foot straps. Jumping should be amazing.

Foillnut,

Once you get a good wind session , could you report back to tell us how the foil placement turn out to be. I will have the exact set up as you, but only receiving the board at the end of August.

thanks a lot!!

Thanks for the feedback on your experience Foilnut. interesting to see your Phazer board next to Armie FG. The Phazer also appears to have the mast position fairly far forward. The smaller size of armie must have felt great. I look forward to your next report.

First session on the 75 L FG today. Wind 10-12 knots but only had one hour to test. Paired it with the 1850 (board setting #5).

At 90 kgs, this board is definitely a sinker . Took several tries figuring out how to balance underwater, then quickly getting the wing overhead to build speed. It wasn't too bad to be honest, before I knew it I was standing on the board taxiing for takeoff. To help with pumping, one front strap was installed. This helped big time. Just needed a couple of pumps to break the surface. I was surprised by the ease of lift, as normally I'd have to pump much harder on my 105 L Quatro. What really stood out was the handling. On a couple of rides, I pushed the foil fast and high, trying to ventilate. As soon as the gurgle sound started, it was easy to correct and get the foil back down. Turning feels different. The board seemed easier to lean over and go further upwind. On gibes the lower swing weight makes a huge difference, making for a tighter arc.

The bad part. The smaller board exposed my weakness. It's much harder to get standing goofy foot . Part of this was due to weak wind and not having much tension in the wing to help on the pull up. But another reason is the grip pad stops 6 inches from the board edge. For taller guys especially when getting up from a kneel, a longer grip pad helps. I tend to put pressure on the top of my back foot. This helps in balancing when bringing the front foot forward. On a few attempts, my back foot slid causing an unnecessary fall. Hopefully with more practice and more wind, this becomes an after thought.

Overall, I'm impressed with how loose the board feels in turns and by the initial lift.

Caught a fun downwind/shore runner session today on the 60L paired with the 1125, 85 mast, fv200 with 1.5 degree shims (so +.5) at a mast setting of 5.5. Wind was 14-18knts and ran a 5M wing. First ocean session on the board and it went insane. The bumpier conditions required dedicated concentration to get up and moving, but all in all pretty straightforward. Mostly got going on my toeside, which is tricky

Half mile out the thermals were pairing up nicely with the small underlying swell and I definitely got my longest downwind glides without using the wing. Power dinging into swells and at swells before cranking cutbacks as hard as I dared.mind blown! Finally getting the feel for cranking the board the opposite direction of inertia, flowing into and through turns, rather than riding on top of the board and letting the turns happen. Hard to do at a lightweight 65kgs. Getting your COG over the down hill rail after a wrapping cutback to bank back the other direction feels amazing. The board and 1125 definitely helping!

Had my first real session on the 75L today in 18-22 knots flatwater swell. First 1.5 hrs i was out with 1550V2 and 5M. I dropped in the water 2X. Board control is insane. Its -10 on my weight so, yep hard to get the wing over my head. Just need a lot of TOW for that. Once up pop up fast. Took a couple tries as I did not have my feet forward enough. No straps on yet but just looked at the strap screw holes. I had it at 5. Probably would come up more gradual at 4. The control is amazing. I am moving down from a 90 l and the swing weight is very noticeably less. In the air this board rocks. Just learning to push it harder. I am a regular rider so I just stayed in that and rode switch on starboard tack. Later I took it out with the 1250 for about 40 min. It almost felt like a new foil with this board, Easy to ride and silky. Touchdowns..no sticking-so sweet

So overall, this is one sick board. Just need to get better at my starts, oh and foot switches and starboard heel jibes, LOL

How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

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How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

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MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

Are you scared to ding it because of the price or the board looks fragile?

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LWjay said..

MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

Are you scared to ding it because of the price or the board looks fragile?

Scared to ding it because of the price. Definitely seems more tough than the V1 boards. I won't know it's durability until I drop it or slam a shin into the rail. Seems like high quality carbon fiber. Also the board build says it has a dyneema cloth, which should be very tough.
I'm coming from one of Dwight's boards, which literally took a Onewheel nosedive to the nose with barely a scratch thanks to the innegra.

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freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

+1 this is a good set of pros and cons.

I picked up the FG 75L at Real in early July and have it paired with the Kujira 1210 + stock 220 stab (no shim). I'm about 73kg. At position 6 it feels really dialed and balanced in fully-powered conditions. I bump it up in the track to 7.5 for earlier lift when it's marginal. Very, very happy with the board and this combo.

I also saw Dwight's mention on standupzone that the FG box placement is not best for Axis. But I wonder what I'm missing on this point, because while the tracks end extra far forward, they are also extra long. It seems reasonable to assume that the extra track length yields enough room to work well with most foil brands, even while it's designed to make the Armie HAs happy.

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foilch said..

MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

+1 this is a good set of pros and cons.

I picked up the FG 75L at Real in early July and have it paired with the Kujira 1210 + stock 220 stab (no shim). I'm about 73kg. At position 6 it feels really dialed and balanced in fully-powered conditions. I bump it up in the track to 7.5 for earlier lift when it's marginal. Very, very happy with the board and this combo.

I also saw Dwight's mention on standupzone that the FG box placement is not best for Axis. But I wonder what I'm missing on this point, because while the tracks end extra far forward, they are also extra long. It seems reasonable to assume that the extra track length yields enough room to work well with most foil brands, even while it's designed to make the Armie HAs happy.

Good to hear the Kujira is working for you. I heard some hearsay that it wasn't a good fit for someone. So don't listen to what I said!

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MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

Hi there MAT just wondering if maybe with your experience with the board what do you think the balance / feel might be with an extra couple of kilos on the back of the board (balance wise) as I have a Foil Drive thats attached to my Armstrong Mast ?:-)

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MidAtlanticFoil said..

LWjay said..

MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

Are you scared to ding it because of the price or the board looks fragile?

Scared to ding it because of the price. Definitely seems more tough than the V1 boards. I won't know it's durability until I drop it or slam a shin into the rail. Seems like high quality carbon fiber. Also the board build says it has a dyneema cloth, which should be very tough.
I'm coming from one of Dwight's boards, which literally took a Onewheel nosedive to the nose with barely a scratch thanks to the innegra.

oh nice! , yes Dyneema cloth is amazing, it has good resistance to pointing forces. I am receiving my board on tuesday , the 88 L , can't wait to test it!

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MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

I'm not sure why these boards won't work with the Kijura foils? I'm using these foils with the 5' 4" Sky Wing board with the mast all the way forward in the track. Are the back of the tracks in the Armstrong boards starting even further forward than the front of the tracks in the Fanatic?

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MidAtlanticFoil said..

freesailor said..
How do these boards compare to let's say Fanatic skywing shapes? What are the pros and cons of the new FG boards? For those who have the new board, what would have been nice to have? What hat do you like but more importantly what don't you like? Can we have a real world review plzzz? Happy dinging!!!

Fanatic sky wings are pretty heavy and have the mast tracks at the far rear of the board. This is OK with some foils, such as Fanatic (I'm guessing) and Takuma kunitary or other wings with a lot of lift. When on the water, the extra volume on the nose will require a more front footed balance to keep the tail from sinking. In the air, more swing weight on the nose
FG boards obviously have the tracks further forward and have longer tracks. This wouldn't work with takuma kujira for example. Works great with lift and Armstrong. Just watch vids and any foil where the rider has their back foot near the rear of the mast trailing edge should work fine. If their foot is three inches in front of the mast leading edge, forget about it.
Cons on the FG board:

- Price
- white finish attracts dirt
- scared to ding it (no problems so far)
- causes even more frothing
- with an extreme offset stance, you might run out of real estate on the deck pad
- will automatically make you want to boost

Pros

- light, balanced, comfortable, agile, quick on foil, thru handle, sick bag, balanced stance when on water and when flying (well distributed load on legs), bounces off water on touchdowns.

I'm not sure why these boards won't work with the Kijura foils? I'm using these foils with the 5' 4" Sky Wing board with the mast all the way forward in the track. Are the back of the tracks in the Armstrong boards starting even further forward than the front of the tracks in the Fanatic?

Eric from the progression podcast says he rides his kujira a full 5" further back than majority of other foils. That's from someone who is prone surfing and also shims his baseplates.so take it with a grain of salt. I just hear that those foils have a heavy front foot feel.

2nd session in the 75 L in 12-14 knots. Decided to mount two front foot straps in a V config, as was struggling with weak side starts in lite winds. This helped in getting the board out of deep water, and getting moving in a shorter amount of time. I found when getting up, my feet would automatically go to the straps and sweet spot. Also moved back plate all the way rear, to use the tail kick as a back foot pressure point, when getting up. Slowly dialing in the feeling of this new board, so good times.

What is KdeW technique ? Anyone has a link ?