Pushing the low end of the 680. 90kg, 2.0 ft @6 sec with 10 knots doing prone runners. The 680 is now my regular foil and the 930 is the groveler. I almost never touch the 980
Select to expand quoteWindyBear said..
Seems like a big loss for the brand IMO.
That's probably true.
BUT: The genius behind the SF-foil design is Uli Sommerlatt, right?
From the article: "A complete 2026/27 range already finished nearly a year ahead of launch"
Also new SF-front wings??
Regarding SF not available at Norths website (nor MA600v2 and possibly others):
Mike posted a story on his IG (gone now) recently about upcoming SFv2 which suggested higher performance..
I guess Uli could tell us more (if he could)? Hoping for sick stuff comin?up! :)
Select to expand quotewavepope said..
Regarding SF not available at Norths website (nor MA600v2 and possibly others):
Mike posted a story on his IG (gone now) recently about upcoming SFv2 which suggested higher performance..
I guess Uli could tell us more (if he could)? Hoping for sick stuff comin?up! :)
He has a post mentioning testing the sfv2 a couple days ago. If the case is true that the 26/27 line is already finished, it will mean that we'll only see the sfv2 in 27/28 at the earliest. Let's hope that 26/27 isnt complete and we see them this year still.
2027 for an sf v2 is a crazy long lead time, let's hope the timing is shorter. North has never been very fast to market IMO (although timing of foil drive integrated mast was pretty fast). More than ample time for all North riders to try other brands v2 or v3s (f-one sk8 as one example) 
On the other hand, I can't imagine that there won't be any SF foils for a whole year-either there will be a new supply of the old version or the new one will already be available?
The current shop page:
I love my north SF foils but both will be too worn for what I want to do in the next 6 months. If north has too much corporate BS to bring a product to market before then they will have lost me.
Asked a friend that works at a surfshop today. According to the north b2b sf foils will be restocked somewhere in feb-march. No news on the sfv2 unfortunately.
Select to expand quoteTooMuchEpoxy said..
Woof! I've been a long time advocate but it
sounds like its time to jump ship!
There are a lot of nice toys out there
With this reckless policy in updating the product lineup, North has lost so many users in the past few months and years. HA line completely obsolete.
SF v2 in 2027
no light-weight wave dedicated wing sail
Where is the new Rover parawing? The ranger was a disaster
Just back from Baja. I rode the DW900 and DW820 paired with the S178 stab. Wind 18-24mph each day. Swell 4-9ft. I love the 820 over the 900. The 820 has greater glide and lift. It pops up and rides high on the swell. Glides with minimal pump between bumps. The 900 was draggy and oven I found the swell overtaking me. I had to pump more than the 820 to keep my speed and keep up with the swell. I also found both paired nicely with the S178. The 820 liked a no shimmed stab. The 900 like a -.5 shim. The specs between the 900and 820 are so close, yet the ride experience is amazingly different, hard to believe but it is just better. I also tried the s145 stab, I either don't like it or need more time on it to figure it out. It was very loose and felt unstable in all three axis. But that may just be me. I would like to try the S158 and S142 at some point. Anyone have experience on these two stabs? Or experiences with shimming?
Select to expand quotescotty380 said..
Just back from Baja. I rode the DW900 and DW820 paired with the S178 stab. Wind 18-24mph each day. Swell 4-9ft. I love the 820 over the 900. The 820 has greater glide and lift. It pops up and rides high on the swell. Glides with minimal pump between bumps. The 900 was draggy and oven I found the swell overtaking me. I had to pump more than the 820 to keep my speed and keep up with the swell. I also found both paired nicely with the S178. The 820 liked a no shimmed stab. The 900 like a -.5 shim. The specs between the 900and 820 are so close, yet the ride experience is amazingly different, hard to believe but it is just better. I also tried the s145 stab, I either don't like it or need more time on it to figure it out. It was very loose and felt unstable in all three axis. But that may just be me. I would like to try the S158 and S142 at some point. Anyone have experience on these two stabs? Or experiences with shimming?
I've had the 145 and 142 for awhile. If it's a wave day I put the 145 on, it turns slightly tighter. However, I've been using the 142 more and more lately, it glides slightly better, it feels slightly faster and the pump is a little more aggressive. Mostly ride w the S680 and DW820. I've gotten to where I only use my S830 for really light wind days. I haven't felt the need to shim w North, though I've been tempted to - shim on some really windy days to push the upper limit.
Select to expand quotescotty380 said..
Just back from Baja. I rode the DW900 and DW820 paired with the S178 stab. Wind 18-24mph each day. Swell 4-9ft. I love the 820 over the 900. The 820 has greater glide and lift. It pops up and rides high on the swell. Glides with minimal pump between bumps. The 900 was draggy and oven I found the swell overtaking me. I had to pump more than the 820 to keep my speed and keep up with the swell. I also found both paired nicely with the S178. The 820 liked a no shimmed stab. The 900 like a -.5 shim. The specs between the 900and 820 are so close, yet the ride experience is amazingly different, hard to believe but it is just better. I also tried the s145 stab, I either don't like it or need more time on it to figure it out. It was very loose and felt unstable in all three axis. But that may just be me. I would like to try the S158 and S142 at some point. Anyone have experience on these two stabs? Or experiences with shimming?
Wow first time I read a user review of dw900 and dw820.. the dw820 already a year or so on the market and so little info. The dw900 even longer.. also very little info.
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..scotty380 said..
Just back from Baja. I rode the DW900 and DW820 paired with the S178 stab. Wind 18-24mph each day. Swell 4-9ft. I love the 820 over the 900. The 820 has greater glide and lift. It pops up and rides high on the swell. Glides with minimal pump between bumps. The 900 was draggy and oven I found the swell overtaking me. I had to pump more than the 820 to keep my speed and keep up with the swell. I also found both paired nicely with the S178. The 820 liked a no shimmed stab. The 900 like a -.5 shim. The specs between the 900and 820 are so close, yet the ride experience is amazingly different, hard to believe but it is just better. I also tried the s145 stab, I either don't like it or need more time on it to figure it out. It was very loose and felt unstable in all three axis. But that may just be me. I would like to try the S158 and S142 at some point. Anyone have experience on these two stabs? Or experiences with shimming?
I've had the 145 and 142 for awhile. If it's a wave day I put the 145 on, it turns slightly tighter. However, I've been using the 142 more and more lately, it glides slightly better, it feels slightly faster and the pump is a little more aggressive. Mostly ride w the S680 and DW820. I've gotten to where I only use my S830 for really light wind days. I haven't felt the need to shim w North, though I've been tempted to - shim on some really windy days to push the upper limit.
I have used the DW820, DW900, and DW1100 extensively over the past year. The DW820 is my favorite for wingfoiling, but as I have transitioned more and more to parawinging, it seems the DW820 is becoming a bit too small for my 95kg at my local spots. Therefore, the DW900+S142 is my daily driver for parawing, and the DW1100+S192 for light wind and small waves (it feels like cheating physics). I am very pleased with these combinations paired with the Midi 96L for parawinging. When it blows 16m/s+, I still use the SF680+S142 and a smaller board.
I have DW820 and its great on a good day but i find it hard top catch smaller waves. That feeling of drag that i had in the beginning is now completely gone and i use it as my daily driver. Unlike others i also love my DW1400. I find it great for light wind 6-7knots, to me it dont seem difficult to turn. The only problem i have is the speed. It is incredibly slow, but hey it gets me going on days when i would normally sit on the beach. But 920 is way more fun and needs just maybe 3-4 knots more wind to start. Nowdays i use only DW820 and DW1400 and for winging it cover my whole range.
For riding waves i feel like i need something in between like 1100 when wind is ok but waves are not great. Im also starting to parawing and i warming up to idea that i need one wing in between.
after a full year of almost non-stop use im still VERY happy with the DW820 paired with the 142 stab. I really like the 122 stab also BUT i just can't seem to sand/sharpen the whistle out of the damn thing!! any advice?? (I've already watched all the experts on you tube and tried all their techniques)
btway I have a brand new SF530 for sale that i bought for a Pacasmayo trip that never happened for $600 usd (located in cancun so can easily send to VENTANA or find a "mule" to bring it to the states)... I'll throw in a new s145 v2 for 75 bucks more to sweeten the deal as I'm just more focused on PW now.
send a PM or email: ikarusjoe@gmail
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
Select to expand quotecrakas said..
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
The carbon fuse - like all carbon fuses - sucks. Aluminum is a better fuse material. Stiffer, better fit with the carbon components it interfaces with.
i tried the carbon fuse back to back with the aluminum and the AL fuse was so much stiffer I could feel it every second of my riding.
Agreed, however went a total carbon setup so I could leave it assembled and not worry about corrosion.
I was hoping that North might have released a titanium fuse by now.
Don't hold your breath for titanium. If you're REALLY committed to leaving the mast on the fuse like I am you can bond that joint with sealant and corrosion is a non-issue. The other joints just get a fresh water rinse and some grease on the screw threads and they are fine
Select to expand quotecrakas said..
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
Ive had the 65 and 70 Carbon setups for two years w no problem. I also jump quite often on the 830 and 680 SF's. My fuse to mast connection is super tight. Haven't had to torque a screw in over half a year. Always find the first time slowly cranking it down unnerving but other than that all good. I've actually been surprised that I haven't yet when I get a big launch in the waves. Wonder if you just got a bad one. I grease the screw maybe twice a year and use a rubber mallet to tap off.
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..crakas said..
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
Ive had the 65 and 70 Carbon setups for two years w no problem. I also jump quite often on the 830 and 680 SF's. My fuse to mast connection is super tight. Haven't had to torque a screw in over half a year. Always find the first time slowly cranking it down unnerving but other than that all good. I've actually been surprised that I haven't yet when I get a big launch in the waves. Wonder if you just got a bad one. I grease the screw maybe twice a year and use a rubber mallet to tap off.
Same here. Never an issue with the 70 carbon fuse. In fact never a problem with the entire North setup from structural point of view. All screws M8. I always left my foil in 1 piece, and never needed to retighten (although I always checked) For me it was just the lack of new gen front wings to switch brands. Never the build quality of North.
Select to expand quotecrakas said..
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
You must have a fuse with the old carbon layup.
They tended to develop cracks on either side of the front of the box.
The cracks would grow and grow and eventually there would be play in the connection to the mast.
North changed the construction a few yesrs back.
2023?
I must have gone through 5-6 fuses in 2-3 years, all were warrantied. No jumping.
Just wave riding and dockstarting at 78 kg.
My fuses bought in 2024 with the new construction haven't developed any cracks.
You can always try to get it warrantied even if it's been more than a year. You have nothing to lose.
Select to expand quoteTangur said..crakas said..
After some input from the brains trust.
Current Foil setup
- North Sonar HM 85cm Mast
- North Sonar 1230SF Foil
- North Sonar S215 Stabilizer
- North Sonar Carbon Fuselage 700mm
I've had this setup for over a year and a half, really like it, but my concern is that from the beginning I never felt like the GeoLock tapered interface, designed to ensure a tight mast-fuse connection was not as tight as it should be. I usually leave the system together and dissemble periodically for cleaning and maintenance. Today I noticed a hairline crack just starting to appear in the fuse in front of the insert. Also, I feel the fit is worse with more play than would be expected, and it appears that the base of the mast is touching the bottom of the fuse insert preventing the tapering from doing it's thing. I expect to be some wear, but since it was ordinary from the beginning...a bit more than one would expect.
Not try to brand bash as I'm about to order a new fuse and see if the fit is better.
Just would like to know if anyone had tolerance/mismatch issues?
What was the end result?
You must have a fuse with the old carbon layup.
They tended to develop cracks on either side of the front of the box.
The cracks would grow and grow and eventually there would be play in the connection to the mast.
North changed the construction a few yesrs back.
2023?
I must have gone through 5-6 fuses in 2-3 years, all were warrantied. No jumping.
Just wave riding and dockstarting at 78 kg.
My fuses bought in 2024 with the new construction haven't developed any cracks.
You can always try to get it warrantied even if it's been more than a year. You have nothing to lose.
Yeah, I think I have one of the earlier ones, so that makes a bit of sense. I thought to myself when I bought it that the serial number indicated it was an earlier version. I don't jump either and I don't think I'll worry about a warranty claim.
Anyway, 650 has been ordered from Jas @ Briskites, so see what it's like when I get it.
The wait is almost over. It calls
Trying to revive this helluva thread again
and this one is for the legacy of the NZ North team!
There's a few shorts on youTube with the same "Something is coming soon" vibe.
No dates though and nothing specific.
Finger's crossed and trying not to get excited for new SF foils...
(Though it's probably just a new paint job on some boards or something equally banal)
Select to expand quoteStanDingup said..
There's a few shorts on youTube with the same "Something is coming soon" vibe.
No dates though and nothing specific.
Finger's crossed and trying not to get excited for new SF foils...
(Though it's probably just a new paint job on some boards or something equally banal)
If north releases a bunch of gear
designed by the NZ team immediately after firing them thsts a real kick in the nuts!
Select to expand quoteStanDingup said..
There's a few shorts on youTube with the same "Something is coming soon" vibe.
No dates though and nothing specific.
Finger's crossed and trying not to get excited for new SF foils...
(Though it's probably just a new paint job on some boards or something equally banal)
No new foils until spring of 2027...
Most of everything coming out has already been previewed at AWSI
