@Mproject04,

Offcourse i first got the standard reply from the North guy here.. did you first press the fuselage on it tightly and then screw it on...
I don't know how else i could do it, but OK.. offcourse, otherwise you cannot even tighten the screws down.

Both masts go for warranty but i don't want this problem again. And yes i tighten it down pretty tight, using the supplied Sonar T40 tool. First in the upside and then i use it sideways to tighten it down. But like you said, what is too much..? i don't know. Yes i'm in NL ;)

larsdegroot said..
Just a little update. I've been investigating myself a bit, found out it's some sort of cover on top that screw plate that has been pulled out on both of the masts. My guess now is, the fuse is not fully locked on or the supplied 30mm screws are too short.
If I screw the fuselage on it now, its rock solid.

Ok,... its not, its pulling the whole screwbox up when i tighten it. Well let's wait for north on this one..

Can anyone post a reliable procedure to sand a whistling North stabilizer?
I have 3 and only one is quiet.
As others have reported, no amount of sanding seems to make it go away - so probably I am missing something.

Okkervile said..
I wonder if P2050 is the right fronffoil for my idea. I want to have an extrem low wind to no wind setup. I dont want to Dockstart nor Paddle me up. I wonder if a wingpump technic exists to get on foil with the P2050.
I'm 105kg has Gong Cruzader Point 135l downwind board a MA2400v2 and a MA1800v2 plus S210 and S270. Would the P2050 would work these stabilizers?
Once up on foil I want to use board pumping to keep me going. I want to do straight lines rather than making a lot of turns. I'm more interested in the pump "aerobics".
Thanks for any comments

I have the P2050 and would not recommend it for winging. I had a very similar experience as FyrFlieWork wrote on 30.08The foils start flying at 6km/h you don't need to pump it just gets up on this speed. but it does not accelerate, you fly with mostly 13 to 15 km/h, in gust you can make it to 20km/h but faster is very hard.Also, you need to fly it very straight, if you roll it, it rolls you over. I never made any jibe with it, where my personal best is 1h45 min without any missed jibe, so around 70 jibes in a row. What was even more depressing, in this 7kn Wind, there was a 14-year guy who was flying with just an 800scm foil, it was able to pump him up and once up the foil accelerated fast enough so he stayed up. means, you don't need this foil for light wind winging, you just need a better technique to start. and yes we are not as light as this 14-year-old dude but using slightly bigger foils 1050 or 1200 should do the same with a lot more fun.I mainly have the 2050 to learn flat water paddle up, but here the same issue as FyrFlieWork said, you need to be centered and that is not as easy as it might sound. (at least for me :D)

larsdegroot said..

randomfoiler said..
Can anyone post a reliable procedure to sand a whistling North stabilizer?
I have 3 and only one is quiet.
As others have reported, no amount of sanding seems to make it go away - so probably I am missing something.

Which one specifically is it? The S208 ?

Both the S178 and the S208 ...

Okkervile said..
I wonder if P2050 is the right fronffoil for my idea. I want to have an extrem low wind to no wind setup. I dont want to Dockstart nor Paddle me up. I wonder if a wingpump technic exists to get on foil with the P2050.
I'm 105kg has Gong Cruzader Point 135l downwind board a MA2400v2 and a MA1800v2 plus S210 and S270. Would the P2050 would work these stabilizers?
Once up on foil I want to use board pumping to keep me going. I want to do straight lines rather than making a lot of turns. I'm more interested in the pump "aerobics".
Thanks for any comments

Tried wingfoiling the P2050 on an Alu 72 mast and s208 the other day. Terrible to wingfoil on. Crazy slow and hard to turn and not fast to get onto foil either. Like my dealer said (as he looked at me puzzled when I mentioned I gave it a go )- it's not designed for wingfoiling. During the same session I jumped onto the dw1400 next and that is a magic foil! some of the longest flagged rides and flights without a wing in my hands (dropping the wing using an anchorman) ever, and not even in any swell of consequence. may not suit your needs though by the sounds of it.

randomfoiler said..

larsdegroot said..

randomfoiler said..
Can anyone post a reliable procedure to sand a whistling North stabilizer?
I have 3 and only one is quiet.
As others have reported, no amount of sanding seems to make it go away - so probably I am missing something.

Which one specifically is it? The S208 ?

Both the S178 and the S208 ...

(170) Delta Hydrofoils Pro Tips: Sanding glazing compound and finishing trailing edges - YouTube .....Also the bolts that came with the alu board adaptor are M8 t40 40mm and seem to sit through the new fuse to the same depth as the old fuse and fuse bolts ...

PatsSurf70 said..
Any advice what foil size to learn for kids? My kids are 50-55kg. Thinking of buying a MA1350 or MA1200 for them. Will the 1350 be to big?

would go SF1080

Agree, want a MA. Is more the size I'm not sure. MA v1 is also fine for learning and better price. Need an easy lift and stable pitch and fly on rails.

Still think the MA 1050 especially is a really good front wing. I really progressed on that one. It's fast, turns great and really easy going. I now have the ma1050v2. It's not particularly faster, but the pumping ability is better. That was my only downside on the v1.

Uli Sommerlatt wrote some weeks ago that SF1230 might be the best light wind option for a 95kg guy. I wonder if lift is really better compared to a MA2400v2 or MA1800v2. Or is glide better to survive windgaps

Okkervile said..
Uli Sommerlatt wrote some weeks ago that SF1230 might be the best light wind option for a 95kg guy. I wonder if lift is really better compared to a MA2400v2 or MA1800v2. Or is glide better to survive windgaps

SF is the better option. Big MA has more drag, which is the issue with light wind that usually comes with frequent lulls.

S215 is sold out at my local dealer. Would S210 or S270 work? As I have them

Okkervile said..
Uli Sommerlatt wrote some weeks ago that SF1230 might be the best light wind option for a 95kg guy. I wonder if lift is really better compared to a MA2400v2 or MA1800v2. Or is glide better to survive windgaps

I ride the SF1230 as my light wind foil for winging, which almost all the riding I do here. Wind is usually 8-14knots. I weight 85kg. I am always the first guy up on foil, even compared to the bigger low aspect wings a lot of the other guys here ride. With just a little speed you can pump it up, and keep it going in pretty light winds, gust just around 10. That being said, I did switch to a downwind board, and had to work on my pumping up to foil technique. But with all of that together I am often the only one at my spot up on foil, riding and having fun, well the rest of the non-north big foil guys are sitting around complaining it is too light. So yes I agree with Uli, SF1230 is a bit of a low wind machine. I have used the S215 and S208 an even the s270 with it. They change the character of the foil slightly, but all of them worked well enough for cruising around.

MProject04 said..

Okkervile said..
S215 is sold out at my local dealer. Would S210 or S270 work? As I have them

The s192 seems to suit SF range too. In the new sonar guide youll find the matching combination.

how about S142 for SF930 / SF1080? 75kgI finally managed to test my SF930 and SF1080 in light to meduim gusty wind conditions and I am totally impressed how easy they take off!A bit pitch sensitive with 600 fuse and S178. With S210 more stable, but in light wind I felt the extra drag.I might get the 650 fuse to sort out the pitch stability.