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Lüderitz Speed Challenge

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elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

21 Nov 2012 9:50pm
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sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

22 Nov 2012 1:22am
Not long it seems! Bjorn just did 46 knots on his very first run!!
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

22 Nov 2012 1:24am
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elmo said...
sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home



That reminds me. Did you see the video where Anders tried to start the run with his fin cover still on the fin! He is human after all! I can admit now that I have done that myself!
seanhogan
seanhogan

QLD

3424 posts

22 Nov 2012 6:30am
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is Bjorn there yet?

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Hey, after 55 hours of traveling we made it to the Luderitz Speed Challenge around 13:00. I did around 10 runs in great condition 30-40 knots of wind. First 47, then 48 knots then, 49, so improving! ;-) With 52.55 GPS top speed pretty happy about the first day on the water!! ;-) So long, Björn
choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

22 Nov 2012 8:44am
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seanhogan said...


is Bjorn there yet?

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Hey, after 55 hours of traveling we made it to the Luderitz Speed Challenge around 13:00. I did around 10 runs in great condition 30-40 knots of wind. First 47, then 48 knots then, 49, so improving! ;-) With 52.55 GPS top speed pretty happy about the first day on the water!! ;-) So long, Björn


55 hours wow did he sail there
REDhat
REDhat

37 posts

22 Nov 2012 7:26am
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sailquik said...
elmo said...
sailquik said...
it will be really interesting to see how long it takes for Bjorn to get dialed in.




Hope he's not like the rest of us (pretty certain he's not)

Get down the run late on a cranking day only to realize he'd left his harness and booms at home



That reminds me. Did you see the video where Anders tried to start the run with his fin cover still on the fin! He is human after all! I can admit now that I have done that myself!


With a couple of years more seniorority and "experience" you may be able to complete a run before noticing.
jusavina
jusavina

QLD

1494 posts

22 Nov 2012 9:53am


Found on facebook

choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

22 Nov 2012 10:57am
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy
sausage
sausage

QLD

4873 posts

22 Nov 2012 10:39am
Ah well I've got her on the nm.
Te Hau
Te Hau

495 posts

22 Nov 2012 9:18am
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sausage said...
Ah well I've got her on the nm.


and the pie eating
sausage
sausage

QLD

4873 posts

22 Nov 2012 12:02pm
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Te Hau said...
sausage said...
Ah well I've got her on the nm.


and the pie eating


Very funny Mike....you'll keep
Jezstrt
Jezstrt

TAS

1471 posts

22 Nov 2012 1:07pm
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy


I wonder how much lead weight she carries
Magnus8
Magnus8

QLD

366 posts

22 Nov 2012 12:26pm
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Jezstrt said...
choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy


I wonder how much lead weight she carries


Who knows, but I have a little more now
sausage
sausage

QLD

4873 posts

22 Nov 2012 1:05pm
I've just noticed that the nissan Cedric (Bordes) has posted a new 2 sec peak record of 53.71 kn
www.gps-speedsurfing.com/default.aspx?mnu=rankings&Year=-&Tab=0&Gender=0&WeightClass=0&AgeClass=0&SpeedType=8
lao shi
lao shi

WA

1343 posts

22 Nov 2012 11:16am
Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.
Haggar
Haggar

QLD

1670 posts

22 Nov 2012 4:36pm
Its great to see that the top speeds are being acheived on such a wide variety of brand of kit.
fitz66
fitz66

QLD

575 posts

22 Nov 2012 4:50pm
Hey Magnus, take youre hand off your rdm extension while thinking about Lena. Hows tricks Haggar?
Haggar
Haggar

QLD

1670 posts

22 Nov 2012 5:50pm
yeah I always thought Magnus was a RDM kind of guy
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

22 Nov 2012 8:36pm
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lao shi said...
Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.




Right on Lao. With a single gps, the error margins are commonly around 0.3 knots. Some test figures I have seen comparing gated runs to GPS runs show that most of the runs are well within this margin, but there are a few that are around that margin (both sides), so to be 99% certain you have gone at least the the claimed speed, you would have to deduct the possible error.

On the other hand, there is a good chance that the numbers could be actually representative of the true difference. [}:)]
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

22 Nov 2012 8:40pm
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy



Yes Choco, I had already noticed that.

No pressure hey?

Her results are inspiring to say the least!
lao shi
lao shi

WA

1343 posts

22 Nov 2012 5:57pm
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sailquik said...
lao shi said...
Who is going to crack the 100Km/h first?
53.71 is 99.47... so close.
My money is on the Terminator but is he wearing a GPS?

Speeds are so close that they are basically the same if they come from just one GPS just within margin of error.




Right on Lao. With a single gps, the error margins are commonly around 0.3 knots. Some test figures I have seen comparing gated runs to GPS runs show that most of the runs are well within this margin, but there are a few that are around that margin (both sides), so to be 99% certain you have gone at least the the claimed speed, you would have to deduct the possible error.

On the other hand, there is a good chance that the numbers could be actually representative of the true difference. [}:)]


So over 2 secs (if my maths is correct) a difference in distance of about 25cm from first to fourth which would be about a board length over the 500m. Pretty close.
vando
vando

QLD

3418 posts

22 Nov 2012 8:04pm
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choco said...
Didn't realise how tiny Lena is

Weight 62 kg
Weight Class 61-70
Height 164 cm
Age 23

Average speed 45.94 knots ( 46.63 46.31 45.9 45.54 45.3 )
Max. 2 sec. (software) 48.26 knots
100 m run 47.54 knots
250 m run 46.48 knots
500 m run 45.41 knots
Nautical mile 0 knots

There's hope for you still Daffy



yep she very small got a photo of me and her at the defi somewhere
stroppo
stroppo

WA

747 posts

22 Nov 2012 9:04pm
Well can Dunky dunk the hundered if not i hope somebody doz!!!!
JustinL
JustinL

NSW

468 posts

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23 Nov 2012 4:36pm
Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!
yoyo
yoyo

WA

1646 posts

23 Nov 2012 1:39pm
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JustinL said...
Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!


which begs the question . Why no body streamlining?
DarrylG
DarrylG

WA

506 posts

23 Nov 2012 3:48pm
How about drafting. Cool to see 6 guys on the course at once.
AUS1111
AUS1111

WA

3621 posts

23 Nov 2012 4:34pm
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yoyo said...
[ Why no body streamlining?


This dude does 70 knots on ice (or is it land?);

www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=user&val=41404&uid=248

I wonder what he's wearing besides a helmet.

I'm no scientist but it seems there is lot more drag going on under our feet that could be improved before we worry about what's on top. There is nothing very aerodynamic about A2!
jdemol
jdemol

NSW

25 posts

23 Nov 2012 9:25pm
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yoyo said...
JustinL said...
Put your hand out of the car window next time you are doing 100km
Its so fast!!


which begs the question . Why no body streamlining?


I think the body air drag is not that critical because traveling at 50 kts in 40 kts of wind at a broad angle the apparent wind they're experiencing would be pretty light.
Dr Speed
Dr Speed

68 posts

23 Nov 2012 7:27pm
That´s true:
Ian K
Ian K

WA

4164 posts

23 Nov 2012 8:25pm
Yes the 58 kph in Dr Speed's diagram is less but not insignificant.

Putting in a few estimates, put in yours if you like, Cd for a person 1.0, cross sectional area presented to wind 0.5 sq metres, density of air 1.2 kg/m^3, 58 kph = 16 m/sec. Put those estimates in the drag equation ie. drag = 1/2 Cd A rho V squared and get drag = 76.8 newtons. (7.8 kg).

Looks like from Dr Speed's diagram only about Sin 45 of that is in direction of travel = 5.46 kg. The other 5.46 kg transverse to the direction of travel adds load to the fin, but the fin has a good lift to drag of say 20:1? 10:1 ?? (I've never been able to wind up a fin designer sufficiently for them to hazard a guess on this ) So maybe add 0.5 kg of extra fin drag to give 6 kg drag opposing the direction of travel. That's a fair bit, how much would streamlining reduce that by?


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