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Lüderitz Speed Challenge

Created by seanhogan seanhogan  > 9 months ago, 1 Nov 2012
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beatlloydy
beatlloydy

NSW

133 posts

14 Nov 2012 10:33pm
WAsnt the record but still pretty dang fast

sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

14 Nov 2012 10:43pm
Hmmm........ Have a closer look. Pretty sure it is.

- the boom goes under the cutaway in the tail.
- the footpads are the same
- see the fin bolts in front of the back strap.

I am very impressed!

Whoever designed that tandem really knows what they are doing, and the things I am referring to are not obvious unless either direct experience, very deep thinking, or both are involved. I'd like to know more about the history behind it.

It does not appear to be very small. It has a lot of volume and width for a speed tandem. Not necessarily a bad thing at all. It would certainly make it more user friendly for a couple of extra large men like AA and CB. It appears to be quite short though.

Looking at it I am surprised that AA and CB didn't crack 40 knots on it. I guess it was the first run they made and maybe the only one so far. If they have a good crack at it I would be very surprised if they don't get into at least the low 40's
seanhogan
seanhogan

QLD

3424 posts

14 Nov 2012 9:50pm
baby bjorn is born, we might see another fast man on the water
Kimba
Kimba

SA

458 posts

14 Nov 2012 10:25pm
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tobhed said...
Kimba said...
Interesting tail on what might be AA's record board...53.14 2s peak





The board in the Picture is the tandemboard, not the one he used when he smashed 50 knots... http://www.windsurfingafrica.org/Photos/tabid/1608/galleryType/SlideShow/ItemID/5823/Default.aspx



Well spotted. When I glanced at the pic it looked like some folded stainless and pins but now I look closer it is dripping water, harness lines and reflections. I thought it might have been a mechanism to adjust the cant of the fin...
tobhed
tobhed

SA

12 posts

15 Nov 2012 12:15am
Tail of the board



tobhed
tobhed

SA

12 posts

15 Nov 2012 12:16am
Loads of pics of the tandem in this link

http://www.windsurfingafrica.org/Photos/tabid/1608/AlbumID/663-384/Default.aspx
DanP
DanP

VIC

286 posts

15 Nov 2012 10:31am
Video of the tandem from Facebook - www.facebook.com/luderitzspeedchallenge/videos/10200091644759778/
Lessacher
Lessacher

89 posts

15 Nov 2012 4:31pm
Hallo Sailquick.You remember? For your tandem Rake 30° 25cm in US. Now , for Lüderitz came Chris Benz (Christian Benzing) a 20years old needle ,28cm with US. 18cm Rake 30°. Now I wait.Christian Bornemann,Dieter Gerichhausen give their best. They use
my fins 18 20 and 22cm. The 17 years old record from Jochen Krauth is broken by
Christian Bornemann. They changed 7 times .Now is Christian Bornemann in front.45,57 kots. Patrik Diethelm got 4 fins from me. 17 18 19 and 20cm Rake 30°.
He said,I have many fins from.................... If he my fins use? I cannot say.
I saw that Matthias Röttcher used a fin from me,the 20cm Rake 30° and a board from
Patrik. He made 46,94 knots. May be that Patik comes on the idea to use my fins?
I cannot say,I can only wait. My 50 knots man,Thomas Döblin works in his job,
not enough money for Lüderitz. So he wait for wind in Vollerwiek. Wolfgang





beatlloydy
beatlloydy

NSW

133 posts

15 Nov 2012 11:57pm
What are the rules about aerodynamic clothing etc....in skiing/cycling they wear speedsuits that are one piece lycra and also aerodynamic helmets...not sure if this could help but if they are talking .1knot or so as being the difference between a winning or losing time, perhaps so...even leg shaving?

I guess most of the person is covered from the wind by the sail but would there be any drag associated with the human form which could be eliminated?

This stuff could also help but imagine they are across all this technology already

http://www.surfstitch.com/product/nanotune-diy-board-tuning-kit-white
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

16 Nov 2012 10:33am
Winds are expected to pump in over the weekend and into mid next week, coarse should be a lot quicker. I can see the past records being smashed if all goes to plan. Here is what Jurjen posted....

'Speed Canal will be a lot faster later this week, they have moved the starting & finish line about 20 meters, this will give a much higher entry speed at the entry point.'

Also a video from his page...www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn



izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

16 Nov 2012 10:59am


AUS-057
AUS-057

QLD

466 posts

16 Nov 2012 10:44am
Very interesting to see Ander's sail looking a lot flatter in the bottom third than AA's NP Evo5. Might be just the angle?
stringer
stringer

WA

703 posts

16 Nov 2012 9:51am
also interesting is the mast base positions both bang in the centre, maybe the baords are designed such that the flat-water-speed-sweet-spot is right in the middle of the mast track, but don't you usually move it forward when the water is super flat but windy?
yoyo
yoyo

WA

1646 posts

16 Nov 2012 10:54am
Read elsewhere that Anders didn't get a mast when he got his new Evo 5s so tried a Simmer mast up the NP (Zara's or Farrel's no doubt) but found it didn't work at all. Later he was able to borrow an X9. Maybe the photo is of it set with the simmer mast. The photos of him on the canal show it much fuller.
sausage
sausage

QLD

4873 posts

16 Nov 2012 1:18pm
Great vid that Izaak posted link to just before.

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Kimba
Kimba

SA

458 posts

16 Nov 2012 2:03pm
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Katapult said...
Very interesting to see Ander's sail looking a lot flatter in the bottom third than AA's NP Evo5. Might be just the angle?


Anders used the 5.8 which is the smallest slalom sail(flatter entry), Antoine switched to the 5.5 just before his fast run which is the new dedicated speed sail(along with a 5.0) so it probably has more knuckle or forward shaping for speed deep off the wind.
AUS1111
AUS1111

WA

3621 posts

16 Nov 2012 2:00pm
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beatlloydy said...
What are the rules about aerodynamic clothing etc....in skiing/cycling they wear speedsuits that are one piece lycra and also aerodynamic helmets...not sure if this could help but if they are talking .1knot or so as being the difference between a winning or losing time, perhaps so...even leg shaving?

I guess most of the person is covered from the wind by the sail but would there be any drag associated with the human form which could be eliminated?

This stuff could also help but imagine they are across all this technology already

http://www.surfstitch.com/product/nanotune-diy-board-tuning-kit-white


Ice-sailors are hitting 58 knots with similar rigs to ours, which suggests that whatever is keeping us (windsurfers) from that speed is likely to be under our feet rather than wrapped around our body or in our hands.
seanhogan
seanhogan

QLD

3424 posts

16 Nov 2012 8:29pm
for the last 2 days A², AB and Cédric Bordes have been working on the canal with the organizers to make the run better, next three days are going to be epic !!!
choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

16 Nov 2012 9:16pm
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AUS1111 said...
beatlloydy said...
What are the rules about aerodynamic clothing etc....in skiing/cycling they wear speedsuits that are one piece lycra and also aerodynamic helmets...not sure if this could help but if they are talking .1knot or so as being the difference between a winning or losing time, perhaps so...even leg shaving?

I guess most of the person is covered from the wind by the sail but would there be any drag associated with the human form which could be eliminated?

This stuff could also help but imagine they are across all this technology already

http://www.surfstitch.com/product/nanotune-diy-board-tuning-kit-white


Ice-sailors are hitting 58 knots with similar rigs to ours, which suggests that whatever is keeping us (windsurfers) from that speed is likely to be under our feet rather than wrapped around our body or in our hands.


friction
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

17 Nov 2012 9:01am
Still some good speeds from yesterday, so its looking epic when they start late tonight.

choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

17 Nov 2012 10:13am
Gee A2's a gorilla checkout the size of his shoulders

AUS1111
AUS1111

WA

3621 posts

17 Nov 2012 8:56am
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choco said...
Gee A2's a gorilla checkout the size of his shoulders




Is he wearing a weight jacket under the t-shirt?

keef
keef

NSW

2016 posts

17 Nov 2012 2:41pm
i want a pair of sunglasses like the guy in the green shirt

seanhogan
seanhogan

QLD

3424 posts

17 Nov 2012 1:53pm
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choco said...
Gee A2's a gorilla checkout the size of his shoulders




you don't win 20 world titles if you're built like a shrimp....

He is indeed massive.....
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

17 Nov 2012 3:19pm
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AUS1111 said...
choco said...
Gee A2's a gorilla checkout the size of his shoulders


Is he wearing a weight jacket under the t-shirt?




Yes, but it is built into his body!

I've got one too, but mine is just a bit lower...
Stuthepirate
Stuthepirate

SA

3591 posts

17 Nov 2012 3:18pm
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choco said...
Gee A2's a gorilla checkout the size of his shoulders



I can't see him, he must be behind that Sea Container Door - Oh wait...

{edit} It's so dangerous there it looks like they've got the X-men's Cyclops there for protection
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

17 Nov 2012 10:51pm
The speeds are starting to come in. Allready another new record and a lot if guys closing in on 50!! Big day ahead.
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

17 Nov 2012 11:09pm
A2, now up to 50.78!! I can see 51-52's by the end if the day. Wind allready above 40knots.
izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

17 Nov 2012 11:11pm
AB- 50.62!
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