I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

^fantastic post Ted

phew.

as it stands ted the fed gov are sitting on their hands. to scared to do anything except more research and tagging


perhaps they fear the greenies more than life its self

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MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

Devils advocate - just how big a problem is a few shark deaths against so many other issues we face every day? I work in the natural disaster field. Everyone gets hung up about bushfires - but are reluctant to talk about heatwaves. Bushfires caused 173 deaths in the Victorian 2009 fires - no one talks about the more than 450 people who lost lives in that same event due to heatwave - it does not make good TV -- it is the silent killer. Heatwaves have killed more people than all other natural disasters combined. Fact. How much money is thrown at fighting fires every year compared to protecting beaches? Over 50% of the Australian population (another fact) live within 3km of the beach. In NSW 48.64% or 1,912,973 of our addresses are within 3km. Go figure that one out. Ask your local member why they are not doing more about it.

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MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

use careflight to take the sharp shooter if the decision is made to rid a troublesome toothie .


to much f ing talk and no action is my opinion.


like- lets talk about it long enough and it might just go away.

a national plan of action please, by the best brains going around.

they been on the studies for years . now is the time to start making a plan

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boofy said..

MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

Its been done in the NT for years, would cost far less money than what is being wasted now & far more effective in the long run.

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laceys lane said..

boofy said..

MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

use careflight to take the sharp shooter if the decision is made to rid a troublesome toothie .


to much f ing talk and no action is my opinion.


like- lets talk about it long enough and it might just go away.

a national plan of action please, by the best brains going around.

they been on the studies for years . now is the time to start making a plan

You start

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MickPC said..

boofy said..

MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

Its already being done in the NT, it would cost far less money than what is being wasted now & far more effective in the long run.

wow Im amazed at that I would love to know what they are shooting them with 2-6 foot underwater

Easiest and most practical solution is to get the army to fly choppers over the area and drop grenades ....one on the Ballina mayor as well....

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MickPC said..

boofy said..

MickPC said..
I'm not for an out & out cull either, that conjures up visions of outright shark massacre. I would like to see a lift on great white shark protection to easily enable the protection from threatening behavior such as a nuisance shark hanging around...I would like to see helicopter's with a shooter passenger. So when such sharks are determined to be nuisance sharks, they can be eliminated effectively. I believe this set up would be far more economically viable than what is being considered or planned at present.

On call Helicopters with sharpshooters to kill sharks youve got to be fkin kidding mate wouldnt you rather see that sort of money put towards another careflight chopper or westpac rescue chopper

Its been done in the NT for years, would cost far less money than what is being wasted now & far more effective in the long run.

I dont think that it would work with sharks.

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Ted the Kiwi said..
Devils advocate - just how big a problem is a few shark deaths against so many other issues we face every day? I work in the natural disaster field. Everyone gets hung up about bushfires - but are reluctant to talk about heatwaves. Bushfires caused 173 deaths in the Victorian 2009 fires - no one talks about the more than 450 people who lost lives in that same event due to heatwave - it does not make good TV -- it is the silent killer. Heatwaves have killed more people than all other natural disasters combined. Fact. How much money is thrown at fighting fires every year compared to protecting beaches? Over 50% of the Australian population (another fact) live within 3km of the beach. In NSW 48.64% or 1,912,973 of our addresses are within 3km. Go figure that one out. Ask your local member why they are not doing more about it.

on the other hand ted if a building site had a run of deaths and accidents they would act in no time.

then a again - save the sharks but we have homeless people all over the nation.

we have the government giving money to sports programs/people while those homeless are still on the streets.

why

Balance LL - that is the world we live in. If I had my way your Aussie cricketers would receive no more help

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Balance LL - that is the world we live in. If I had my way your Aussie cricketers would receive no more help

the blacks aren't going to get our shark money

And I might add that that a clubie had to take a cop out to shoot a WP that wouldn't leave a victims body alone , that was off Auckland not so long ago , the family were grateful they had something to bury....and the public were ok with the shooting as well....

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Ted the Kiwi said..
Devils advocate - just how big a problem is a few shark deaths against so many other issues we face every day? I work in the natural disaster field. Everyone gets hung up about bushfires - but are reluctant to talk about heatwaves. Bushfires caused 173 deaths in the Victorian 2009 fires - no one talks about the more than 450 people who lost lives in that same event due to heatwave - it does not make good TV -- it is the silent killer. Heatwaves have killed more people than all other natural disasters combined. Fact. How much money is thrown at fighting fires every year compared to protecting beaches? Over 50% of the Australian population (another fact) live within 3km of the beach. In NSW 48.64% or 1,912,973 of our addresses are within 3km. Go figure that one out. Ask your local member why they are not doing more about it.

Sure NP.....the problem I have with people pulling out unrelated stats is...firstly, we didn't have so many shark fatalities/injuries while I was growing up surfing through the 80's & 90's. Now the frequency is rising all over the world since great whites were protected.

I don't think its fair that we should just limit our surfing based upon what "experts" proclaim to be higher risk times. As I believe the majority of WA attacks were not high risk times.

A problem has been caused by the governments decision to protect great whites & not un-protect them when they are no longer endangered.

I can eliminate a lot of risk from typical dangerous scenario's or have a greater chance of survival based on skills & attributes.

When I was 22yo I seriously injured my knee & was unable to surf for 2 years. I came very close to killing myself...I'm not going to be able to remove myself from what some would deem a risky situation unless I perceive that risk myself. Here is the problem, perceiving that risk on a typical day.

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Ted the Kiwi said..
Devils advocate - just how big a problem is a few shark deaths against so many other issues we face every day? I work in the natural disaster field. Everyone gets hung up about bushfires - but are reluctant to talk about heatwaves. Bushfires caused 173 deaths in the Victorian 2009 fires - no one talks about the more than 450 people who lost lives in that same event due to heatwave - it does not make good TV -- it is the silent killer. Heatwaves have killed more people than all other natural disasters combined. Fact. How much money is thrown at fighting fires every year compared to protecting beaches? Over 50% of the Australian population (another fact) live within 3km of the beach. In NSW 48.64% or 1,912,973 of our addresses are within 3km. Go figure that one out. Ask your local member why they are not doing more about it.

Less serious response...they all died coz they were too scared to go for a farking swim in the ocean due to the sharks........

A dog attacks a human,the dog gets put down.

A woman mauls many men = slut. A bloke who mauls many women is a legend.

The world is full of irony.

The reality is that I do not want to see sharks killed for no reason if at all. But I am also scared ****less about them. Every time I surf in NSW now I think about them. Never used to. I even emailed a fellow brezzer yesterday to ask about the sharks where he lives - even though where I am going is a little way from him......I am not a fan trust me !!

Snake comes into your backyard,you call a snake catcher,the snake is relocated ,shame we don't take the same approach to drug dealers.

Well doing something effective would be a good start..protecting GW's & not other fish is simply retarded..just way too may bogans with discovery channel these days.

question.

did they end up letting those super trawlers in our waters

around around around around around we go.

i love our shark drums

This topic just came up on Channel 9 the verdict... Can't believe how people can push the "it's the Sharks home" point of view... Mark Latham saying that's it's not upto government to spend money protecting a few surfers enjoying recreational surfing!!!wtf!!! How much out of touch are these guys!!.... I dont think these polis under stand how much surfing has to do with most coastal economies.... No surfers = no tourism, no money and no jobs!!

Fun fact

The CSIRO said... Historically (pre-1950s), human–shark interactions predominantly occurred in the summer months. In recent decades, swimmers, surfers and divers are continuing to pursue these activities outside of the traditional summer season because of improvements in wetsuit technology. This is reflected in the occurrence of shark attacks throughout the year since the 1950s; particularly for surfers, snorkelers and SCUBA divers who can enter the water at any time of the year and extend the time they spend in the water in areas that, in earlier decades, were likely to be too cold for recreational purposes. In the past 20 years, 49% of all shark-attack victims were wearing a wetsuit. These data support a similar account by Cliff (1991) regarding the effect of wetsuits on shark-attack increases in South Africa.

More an obvious fact than a fun fact

the last thing (actually never) i think about when going for a surf is what the government is doing to protect me!
maybe pumping some more sand,maybe outlawing boot camps so the car park isn't full of spandex clad rope runners at 6am or building an
artificial reef for some decent waves ,,,,,
i can remember being a (selfish) grommet and blowing up when the clubbies put the flags on the only pumping bank
on the whole beach and then would call you out over the public address ..
"will those board riders move to south of the flags" ...
.no F&^k off its pumping and this is the only beach i can get to on the bus !
sanitizing it detracts from the whole point of surfing
surfing has and always will be about some form of freedom and risk!

"buy the ticket, take the ride!"

My thoughts are that government and council at least need to be doing something.. You are not going to stop all attacks but at least be pro active in some way... Its almost like gov n councils are just hoping the problem will go away... Same thing happened in my town with floods.. 2 record floods in 2 years splitting the town in half and costing hundreds of people their homes, big promises made by gov and council re flood mitigation, well guess what??, 4 years later they are still trying to decide what to do!!...hoping people forget maybe???

It's good too see this forum has turned into the short board forum

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Loz79 said..
More an obvious fact than a fun fact

Man you must know everything then