MickPC said..Hydromann said..
Good luck driving to the beach. cops are starting to fine people for non essential travel. And apparently traveling to the beach to exercise (surf) is now deemed non essential.
Ran the numbers, in WA you have a 1 in 5000 chance of bumping into a Covid case, and if you practice safe distancing and good hygiene you have a net zero chance of picking it up.
I get the need to enforce behavioral changes to stop the spread, but seriously fining people $1000 for a trip to the beach?
Have to keep telling myself to suck it up, just suck it up boy.
I'm not having a go at you here, could you please provide more information. Is this factual, did it happen to you or did you hear of it happening to someone else?
My understanding is that restrictions for outdoor "Leisure and recreation" is limited to 10 people & social distancing must be adhered to as outlined on the government website;
www.wa.gov.au/organisation/department-of-the-premier-and-cabinet/covid-19-coronavirus-community-adviceAt the moment all I can find for police actually stopping people is the following article & its in regard to crossing boundaries.
www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/coronavirus-travel-restrictions-in-wa-toughest-in-australia/12108868Based upon the current "advice" & boundary restrictions there is nothing to say you can't go to the beach for recreational activities provided you are not operating a boat (that is not your home), crossing boundaries or entering within 1.5m proximity of someones personal space.
Its important that people stand up for their rights as they are steadily being chipped away from us like the Victorians did with the bonk ban.
www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/victoria-backflips-on-partner-visit-rule2/3986902/Governments never fail to take advantage of a crisis & we need to remain vigilant in what is going on in the background as the world is blindsided by this virus. They could use this to make changes which may not be reversed in the future.
I'm not saying to not follow advice to reduce the spread of the virus, but if we allow precedent for them taking away our freedom for things unrelated or going way too far with things like that bonk ban. They could exercise the same measures in future because we've allowed them to do so.
Australia typically has 1500 to 3000 deaths from influenza every year;
www.isg.org.au/index.php/clinical-information/influenza-fast-facts-/So far there have been 21 deaths from C19, it will be interesting to see what it gets up to within 12 months;
www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbersI'm not downplaying the virus, I have elderly parents I call each day to check on & encourage to take precautions. Although mum was a nurse for over 40 years so she knows a thing or 2 about infection control.
But...Australia has this or that Influenza every year, most of the time we don't brand them & the media doesn't run stories like. The Australian deathrate "JUMPED today, by "1".
In the end we will need to look back & ask if this was handled correctly. The media & government will most likely tell us that they did & next time it happens they will do the same thing which will essentially allow them to do it every year. So far I feel decisions have been made with fear rather than fact. Only time will tell if this was either the biggest psyops of all time or not.
It sure stopped all the protests around the world & at least we're not talking about climate change, bushfires, LGBQLSD rights, diversity, womens workplace stuff & all the other BS lefty nonsense. I can now watch the news without shouting "thats BS" & getting angry


Here, here Mick.
Well spoken and almost word for word what I would say.
Stats are that you have a one in 5000 chance of bumping into a known carrier. Then if you do contract it you have about a one in 500 chance of dying. Obviously elevated if you are in a high risk category.
But even if you do cross paths with a spreader your chances of contracting it are significantly reduced if you follow social distancing recommendations and practice good hygiene, sanitise etc.
Our health Minister has clearly stated that the objective is to flatten the curve so that infrastructure can cope. The last thing they want is greater social unrest and panic if the system crumbles.
But to answer your question. My wife told me based on her social media feed. So no I don't have a direct link or information beyond that. And given how pissed off she is at me for even suggesting that I was going surfing you have got me wondering if she has reverted to being a manipulating shrew.
Strange days indeed.
She keeps barking on about essential travel only etc. I will take a good look at your links so that I know the facts rather than her fiction.