What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you shark-huggers are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?

Anyone?

Still no one?

C'mon, if you're all so sure of your side of the argument, then come out with it.

busterwa said..
How much head did it take to get to that position?
Mabe you should start teaching them people how to prevent BLOOD LOSS.
CULL THE MANEATERS .If not **** off and go hugem. Over and over Vote green
You know what if it was up to you ****s my family would of burned alive in a bushfire cause I could cut down a tree. **** YOU Theres really no helping you dumb mother****ers is there.Cant be ****ed with ****en retards.
NO_CONVERSATION_EXISTS
EXPECT MORE ATTACKS blood is on your hands.

The lack of sense of proportion here is astonishing.

kiterboy said...

cauncy said..

kiterboy said...

Gustenzo said..
Death unfortunately is a natural part of life, why are we always trying to stop everyone from dying? Is the population not large enough? Why do we want everyone to live forever! I know it is a natural survival instinct but aren't we smart enough to analyse the future implications?

I see most people who are for the drumlines and cull are just too scared to go into the water now and grossly uneducated about the environmental systems and the implications of making decisions on a finite 'thing' (GWS) and the effects of changing food webs.

You get an engineer and an architect to create a well designed house (people in the know) you don't get Joe Blow no idea to design it. Let the professionals EPA and other environmental managers do there job. If you are to scared to go in the ocean then stay out.

"Everyone should have no fear into going into the ocean, plus I want uncrowded breaks! Lets just make more surf spots with artificial reef all along the coast and impact longshore drift. Hooray for the human race! Sick sad world."

Dream on, buddy.
The anti-cullers are the ones too scared to go in the ocean.

And what are the EPA and such doing about the situation?

I spend time on, in and under the ocean
And I'm not keen on a shark cull, I am conciouse though of the threat,
Same as when I get on a roof, go riding my bike , riding my quad,
My eldest brother used to race bikes all over the uk, he's got pins , lost his left leg below the knee, multiple scars , broken bones , usually the 1st thing he'd ask was how's me bike, he'd rebuild and tune something that would kill him,
Maybe class watersports as an extreme sport
And accept the risks, I do

OK, now take any of those situations, and add in the extra level of risk of being blind-sided and taken out by a toothy-bitey animal.
Now it's the same risk.

The risk is minimal, check some stats out and don't get so paranoid, I'll be getting on the water and under next week

busterwa said..
How much head did it take to get to that position?
Mabe you should start teaching them people how to prevent BLOOD LOSS.
CULL THE MANEATERS .If not **** off and go hugem. Over and over Vote green
You know what if it was up to you ****s my family would of burned alive in a bushfire cause I could cut down a tree. **** YOU Theres really no helping you dumb mother****ers is there.Cant be ****ed with ****en retards.
NO_CONVERSATION_EXISTS
EXPECT MORE ATTACKS blood is on your hands.

Can someone please decipher this comment ???

busterwa said...
hope you get attacked then. Its a no brainer?Hopefully its going to be open to commercial fisherman. About time.

Nice.
Such a class bloke. Full of compassion for his fellow man.

kiterboy said..
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you shark-huggers are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?

Anyone?

Still no one?

C'mon, if you're all so sure of your side of the argument, then come out with it.

I've not seen anyone say we'll have an ecological disaster stemming from low GW numbers, more so from low shark numbers overall and there are some examples of that like the collapse of the shell fisheries in the US after the stingray population exploded because the Sharks weren't there to keep them in check. There is a paper about the importance of Tigers to Shark Bay as they keep the dugongs in check from eating all the shallow sea grass beds which is a critical habitat for juvenile snapper. It goes on to suggest that without the Sharks the snapper fishing industry would very likely collapse. In the case of Great Whites their primary food is seals, it just so happens seals were also hunted to close to extinction and many colony's disappeared. They have taken a while to get re-established but now their numbers are sharply increasing, without the GW's doing their bit there would again be a fisheries issue and the fishos would be screaming for a seal cull.

busterwa said...
Its really quite elementary. Do you need to study beaner 4 years at uni to work that your unemployable?

What?

kiterboy said..
What were the drastic environmental/ecological disasters we faced 10-20 years ago that were a direct result of the low numbers of GW, that you shark-huggers are saying will happen now if today's numbers are reverted back to what they were?

Anyone?

Still no one?

C'mon, if you're all so sure of your side of the argument, then come out with it.

I'll take this one on.

The drastic environmental/ecological disaster we faced 10-20 years ago as a direct result of the low numbers of white sharks was... nothing. Zip. Zero. Nil. Sharks were killed out of sight of the vast majority of humans and due to a lack of social media and a societal affliction known as political correctness, it raised few, if any, eyebrows. In fact if ancient photographs can be believed, large groups of interested onlookers sometimes thought it was okay, a point they proved by sitting on, around, near and under dead white sharks to have their photo taken and presumably show their support for the action of whoever did the deed.

The sun still comes up, the sun goes down. The tide comes in, the tide goes out. Life as we know it just carries on as normal.

This is a stunning cock-up on nature's behalf because as we are well aware, popular modern-day rhetoric dictates that the entire world and everything in it should have died a direct and painful death because of the lack of white sharks.

Fortunately, or not, as your opinion falls (although if you apply logic to this it does become somewhat confusing and irrational) the end of the world did not happen. The good news is that there is an excellent chance it will not happen again if a bit of downward pressure were to be applied to the white shark population. This blatant fact though is well beyond the comprehension of an emotive group of modern folk known colloquially as "shark huggers".

Once upon a time sharks were placed somewhere below humans on the food chain and the vast majority of humans couldn't give a fat rat's clacker whether white sharks were being killed or not. In fact, it would have been a very special type of person that would have even noticed any were even missing. The same is true now, although this is not a popular point to make. Strangely though, in only one short decade the spectrum of give-a-****-ness has swung almost completely to the opposite pole. Even more strangely, it has coincided with more people being killed by white sharks than ever before. Humans truly are a strange breed.

In conclusion, humans are willingly no longer the top dog in the pack, they are now part of the food chain. The most vocal ones, on behalf of everyone, will have you know that if you choose to enter the ocean you should do so knowing that if you do not have the correct ability to read shark body language and react accordingly, it pretty well serves you right if you get eaten. So there.

Im a recreational gynocilogyst @ wa spreadem Ill take a look..

busterwa said...
How much head did it take to get to that position?
Mabe you should start teaching them people how to prevent BLOOD LOSS.
CULL THE MANEATERS .If not **** off and go hugem. Over and over Vote green
You know what if it was up to you ****s my family would of burned alive in a bushfire cause I could cut down a tree. **** YOU Theres really no helping you dumb mother****ers is there.Cant be ****ed with ****en retards.
NO_CONVERSATION_EXISTS
EXPECT MORE ATTACKS blood is on your hands.

Aaah. Nice edit adding all that abuse.

See I thought you were asking about pressure or water hammer or some other specialist plumbing term before you added all the invective, I thought "How much head did it take to get to that position?" was referring to what caused my leaky seats.

My mistake. I under estimated how nasty you could be. Any thing else to add?

And kiterboy, I never said anything about your education. Just that I think a lot of these posts are emotional, hysterical and ill informed and I doubt you actually want to do any research that may challenge your opinions.

I seem to pretty much be on the money hey?

Rabbs said..

busterwa said..
How much head did it take to get to that position?
Mabe you should start teaching them people how to prevent BLOOD LOSS.
CULL THE MANEATERS .If not **** off and go hugem. Over and over Vote green
You know what if it was up to you ****s my family would of burned alive in a bushfire cause I could cut down a tree. **** YOU Theres really no helping you dumb mother****ers is there.Cant be ****ed with ****en retards.
NO_CONVERSATION_EXISTS
EXPECT MORE ATTACKS blood is on your hands.

Can someone please decipher this comment ???

Sorry I dont speak idiot.

You boys gone to bed?

You fellas getting out of bed?

novetti said...
Are you that intimate with me to be calling me son? Did I gave you that liberty to do so?Why you huggers consider yourselves in to be in a higher moral ground than people who have different views? Who is the nazi here?

Also the argument that there is more people in the ocean that ever is rubbish. In WA? The less populated stretch coastal region together with SA in the whole world? Why there are not exponentially more attacks than here in hawaii, california, east coast us, south africa and other places that GW's roam? If there is a surfer or two more in your spot in WA and you don't like because your surf is bad and you don't like people starring at you that is another problem. I bet we had more water users in the 90's in WA alone than now.

Feisty.

Who is taking the moral high ground?