See some in Japan, any info?

ktsurfing.com

As far as I know, the Wing Drifter line-up from Quatro will be transferred to KT. Not sure how many new shapes coming. Aggressive deck pad from WD model changed to more skin-friendly pad.

Interesting to see that 56l is the biggest they build.Al those girls and guys who prefer a bit more foam under there feet (like me) just need to learn how to use a sinker! ...or buy a less cool brand.

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Jeroensurf said..
Interesting to see that 56l is the biggest they build.Al those girls and guys who prefer a bit more foam under there feet (like me) just need to learn how to use a sinker! ...or buy a less cool brand.

They'll have larger sizes too.

They do, lots of sizes from 100l down to 30 ish. Google it you'll see all the sizes I'll be going for a 4'10 62L

ktsurfing.com/boards-2022/wing-drifter/

Wonder if all sizes have the same kick tail or if they get a clean chop on the sizes that aren't intended for surfing...

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Velocicraptor said..
Wonder if all sizes have the same kick tail or if they get a clean chop on the sizes that aren't intended for surfing...

Reminds me alot of the new Takuma CK boards... similar sharp edge kicktail - no need for clean chop...

KT below ...

The one I'm interested in is the Ginxu

6.5 kgs for the 72l , it's heavy...

The Ginxu is an interesting shape with the recessed/stepped rear half. Would it not shorten your effective mast length by a couple cm?

Interesting bottom shape?..

Where's that photo from? Any more?

Any news about construction ?

www.surfshop.fr/wing-568/planches-583/kt-surfing-ginxu-19919.html?fbclid=IwAR2Gw6lMpHuPglUcI1UIsMOwQx_x_wNdEmpswmT9IvLH-Ec2GdNW9XzGh9U#idTab1

2300 euros for a 5ft board

I guess you need a mast 10cm longer (and as stiff as the shorter one)

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Windoc said..
The Ginxu is an interesting shape with the recessed/stepped rear half. Would it not shorten your effective mast length by a couple cm?

More info, Link ktsurfing.com/boards-2022/ginxu/
from supfoil thread: www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Foiling/Safe-money-for-another-board--new-KT?page=1#6

The specs show the boards are both wider and thicker than typical boards. So if their 5.2 is 5 7/8" thick ... that's roughly 1-1.5" thicker than a regular shape ... that would reduce the lost mast length from cutaway.

The weight would be the major issue IMO.

Small sizes should work great as a sinker with all that forward volume helping to bring the nose above the water line. Nice long tracks too. Can't wait to see some actual video from somebody ripping on it. I'm interested.

Pics are from here: www.surfshop.fr/wing-568/planches-583/kt-surfing-ginxu-19919.html?fbclid=IwAR2Gw6lMpHuPglUcI1UIsMOwQx_x_wNdEmpswmT9IvLH-Ec2GdNW9XzGh9U&utm_source=seabreeze.com.au#idTab1

I hate to be Mr. Grumpy but I've had a board with those gortex valves blow up on me. I really don't like them. Also, I saw one of the new Fanatic Skywings a couple days ago and it had the same valve. Hope they've solved the problem.

I absolutely can't see the point.
Looking forward to the first test reports so maybe I can get the point.

For 2300,- I want at least a whole board, not an 20% reduced one.

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NicoDC said..
I absolutely can't see the point.
Looking forward to the first test reports so maybe I can get the point.

Exactly?!?

Innovation is great, but I doubt there'll be more than 1 sold in Australia.

Next board please

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I absolutely can't see the point.
Looking forward to the first test reports so maybe I can get the point.

The point is simple, the board touches down and the mast plate (and tail?) does not because it is "hidden" from the flow behind the step.
So less drag= less nose down and deceleration on touchdowns ,supposedly it "bounces" back up straight away.

But that is what the brochure says :)

I do like the concept and Keith Teboul is a very respected shaper.
Wether it is worth the price we will see.

Kai Lenny is involved in the design and testing, so it's not going to be exactly **** is it guys! I for one like the look of it.

Mike

Anyone with a bit of wing experience knows the board means nothing once on foil, less is more.

Having a board that planes quickly to get on foil is paramount, how does this design aid in that?

to be honest any board will work over 18 knits to get on foil, is this what this design is trying to prove?

really at this $$$$ ha ha

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NicoDC said..
I absolutely can't see the point.
Looking forward to the first test reports so maybe I can get the point.

The point is simple, the board touches down and the mast plate (and tail?) does not because it is "hidden" from the flow behind the step.
So less drag= less nose down and deceleration on touchdowns ,supposedly it "bounces" back up straight away.

But that is what the brochure says :)

I do like the concept and Keith Teboul is a very respected shaper.
Wether it is worth the price we will see.

Sure they make great boards, but that doesn't mean this one will be too.

This oversized tailkick/steptail looks like a lot of drag in case of slogging takeoffs and you don't have the volume under the back foot to slog with comfort because you need to stand more forward. Now that I'm thinking about it, if you have to stand more forward, you'll likely need a longer board too (except if they really really thought this through) because the entry point of the water will change.

In the sinker sizes maybe more forward placed volume could help, but what's the harm in having that 5-10% volume under the back foot?

Regarding construction, this decrease in thickness causes a very fragile point. Would be interesting to see how they reinforce this because 9/10 the board would snap in that spot. (Laminate)thickness is the best way to prevent snapping.

finally about the alleged improvement for touchdowns. I can see a point there, but only in perfect conditions where you come down smoothly. If you get caught by a wave or come down to hard, I can't see this shape improve re-takeoff. If you come down smoothly then maybe it is helpful, but if your speed drops below a certain point, that tail will start to suck water again and cause drag.
there are more conventional ways to improve touchdowns: more classic rails (round and straight instead of beveled), more scoop in the rocker and positive rake of the foil are all good options.

maybe for true high performance with riders that could practically ride a dinner plate, it could give them an edge. A touch better for recovering after a jump for example. For the vast majority off us, I remain sceptical.

however, this is something innovative and innovation is always more than welcome. The reedin superwing x had some controversial initial reactions, but it has shown its use for some riders in some conditions and no doubt pushed the industry to improve as a hole.
maybe the concept as a whole won't be a big succes, but there might be elements that will stick around and for sure the industry will gain knowledge and improve.
for me personally, I have a blank laying around that that is ready for a rail and deck shape, but I don't quite know what to do with it (90l 150x60 isn't super useful in my quiver as it sits between my flat/swell board and wave board), so despite all, I might put in the steptail for the sake of experimenting.

Anyone with sailing or surfing experience knows that a longer water line length is faster which means the foil will engage faster.
With this design they dramatically shortened the water line length, it's actually comical.

I'd like to demo it for a laugh but I'd never pay 1 cent for this board