Hi Guys, anybody tired these as an alternative foil for the AXIS fuse,The LX970 has a very decent HA 10.1, also the LX 760 the same HA ratio.Very well priced as well, any thoughts any feedback, they look the part and thinking the LX970 could replace the HPS1050.

Ha...was hoping for some feedback, on the LX970, I thought they were popular down under, I guess I maybe wrong. The foil looked like it was bteween the HPS and the Spitfire.

My mate in Perth has the LX760, he loves it and says it has amazing lift for its size. Great combination of speed, glide and turning compared to his ART999 and HPS???
I sent him the link to this thread, maybe he'll step in?

Yeah I have the LX760. Great lift for it's CMS. I love it. It turns great, glides amazingly and breaches tips pretty well also (comparable with a Spitfire). The biggest plus though is the combo of turning and glide. Axis seems to have a range that turns(Spitfires or HPS) or glides (ART or ART Pro). I've tried an 840, 1030 Spitfire and an ART Pro 1051. I also own a 999. The LX is way more fun that any of those. I like it so much I've ordered the LX970 as well

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Mark Horn said..
Yeah I have the LX760. Great lift for it's CMS. I love it. It turns great, glides amazingly and breaches tips pretty well also (comparable with a Spitfire). The biggest plus though is the combo of turning and glide. Axis seems to have a range that turns(Spitfires or HPS) or glides (ART or ART Pro). I've tried an 840, 1030 Spitfire and an ART Pro 1051. I also own a 999. The LX is way more fun that any of those. I like it so much I've ordered the LX970 as well

Mark what weight are you and what sort of wind speed is required to get the 760 going?

Axis will be releasing something in between too soon

I'm 80kg and I can use it in 12-15 knots if I had to but I'd rather the 970 in that because the 760 is too close to the bottom end. That's on a 5.2x26 board. The glide is good enough though that once on foil in the light wind it stays in foil very well. So long story short 15 knots

Yeah I'm quite interested in them as well. I've got a HPS980 which is great in the waves however the glide for my gybes isn't enough for me & hoping something a bit glidier for the lulls. These came up on my radar from facebook when someone wanted something in between. What size for 85kgs novice- intermediate you reckon?
I take it you use the axis fuse & tails with it. If so what is the best matching?

There is no doubt the LX has more glide than the HPS. I have both the HPS880 and the 980. I never really had a issue with the 980 or 880 not gliding enough for the gybes but the LX760 definitely glides all the way round and if you trim it right quite a long way out the other side as well. There's certainly no rush to grab the handles. I just roll into the gybes let go with the back hand and glide until I'm fully on the new tack and then swap hands. As I said earlier I have the LX970 on order I've been so impressed with the LX760

I use an Axis 325 Progressive tail for everything and a standard ultrashort fuse. I'm not a fan of the advanced fuses as for me they were just pitchy but don't turn any better but that could be just me. If you unlike me like the advanced fuse then you'll love it with the LX because compared to the HPS it will turn as well, tip breach better, glide way better and be faster

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Mark Horn said..
There is no doubt the LX has more glide than the HPS. I have both the HPS880 and the 980. I never really had a issue with the 980 or 880 not gliding enough for the gybes but the LX760 definitely glides all the way round and if you trim it right quite a long way out the other side as well. There's certainly no rush to grab the handles. I just roll into the gybes let go with the back hand and glide until I'm fully on the new tack and then swap hands. As I said earlier I have the LX970 on order I've been so impressed with the LX760

I use an Axis 325 Progressive tail for everything and a standard ultrashort fuse. I'm not a fan of the advanced fuses as for me they were just pitchy but don't turn any better but that could be just me. If you unlike me like the advanced fuse then you'll love it with the LX because compared to the HPS it will turn as well, tip breach better, glide way better and be faster

Absoloutley great feedback Mark, I am 86kg and ride the HPS880 and 1050, both with skinny stabs, that was a game changer, but now I am looking at the LX970 to replace the 1050 and I think this could be it, with a higher AR to allow me to glide along and with more manoverability. The HPS880 works fine for me at the moment, however just boght a 2nd hand advanced ultrashort, was planing on using it with the larger 1050. Great review, cheers Mark

You'll love the LX 970 compared to the 1050 (not that the 1050 is bad). I'm pretty sure the LX was designed for the advanced so you'll be set. I'm pretty confident once you try the 970. You'll want the 760 as well to replace the 880 ??

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Mark Horn said..
You'll love the LX 970 compared to the 1050 (not that the 1050 is bad). I'm pretty sure the LX was designed for the advanced so you'll be set. I'm pretty confident once you try the 970. You'll want the 760 as well to replace the 880 ??

With a higher AR of 10, are you setting your mast further back to compensate any extra lift, for example when the wind picks up and you become towards the higher end of the foil?

I don't use foot straps so can simply move a little forward on the board, so no I don't worry about adjusting the mast so can't be much help with that one. I do run my 760 in the same place as all my axis foils though

Sounds interesting also the price. But I wonder if they are not much similar to the old ART? Sorry saw u already said something about it. So it's an kind of "malange" of art with spitfire?

Compared to the original ART, the glide is similar! The speed is similar (a little less) but that's where the similarity end. The turning is way way better plus the ability to tip breach. The ART sucks at that (and turning ??). It's the foil Axis should have made when they made the Spitfire.

Hi!
Yeah turning of the old ART is not that good. I tested unifoil progression. That was really cool. But it's to expensive yet to switch. What do u think about the sizes for heavier persons? I weigh 95 kg. At the moment 999 and 900. U think I could give the smaller once a chance for high winds? At least would they ship to Europe?

I can only give you what I know about what I have. The LX760 is not dissimilar in lift to the ART 999 just a little less. I would imagine the LX970 would be awesome for you.
Just contact them re Europe

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Driks said..
Hi!
Yeah turning of the old ART is not that good. I tested unifoil progression. That was really cool. But it's to expensive yet to switch. What do u think about the sizes for heavier persons? I weigh 95 kg. At the moment 999 and 900. U think I could give the smaller once a chance for high winds? At least would they ship to Europe?

It says delivery to Spain 36euros, but I am wondering if i will get hammered for import tax?

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Mark Horn said..
I can only give you what I know about what I have. The LX760 is not dissimilar in lift to the ART 999 just a little less. I would imagine the LX970 would be awesome for you.
Just contact them re Europe

Do u jump with it? The smaller one it's more like the ART 899 right? DAMN I already bought SF 900

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Donathon said..

Driks said..
Hi!
Yeah turning of the old ART is not that good. I tested unifoil progression. That was really cool. But it's to expensive yet to switch. What do u think about the sizes for heavier persons? I weigh 95 kg. At the moment 999 and 900. U think I could give the smaller once a chance for high winds? At least would they ship to Europe?

It says delivery to Spain 36euros, but I am wondering if i will get hammered for import tax?

Yeah saw it too. Could work but they don't answer if u write them.

I've only tried an 899 once and liked but didn't turn any where near as well as the LX760. The LX gets on foil way easier too as it has more lift due to its design (camber in the bottom)

I don't jump but can say the LX is amazing construction. The foil itself is very stiff being High Mod carbon. I always felt the ARTs were a little soft and flapped there wings a bit in turbulence and if you try you turn them to hard. That's what my 999 feels like at least

Hi Marc!
Fxxx this really sounds like I have to get both. The bigger to Replace 999 and 900 and the smaller for every crazier condition. Thanx so far!

Did you end up getting one? I'm still interested however would like a few more honest reviews like Marks.

Hey!
No not yet. Still holding the ART and the SF. But I looking forward to change. If so I will report it

There's not much info about them online - they must be too busy foiling.

Any new news on thes foils, chatted a lot about them in my group and the thought was why do I need such a High Apsect ratio for winging, and i should settle for the Spitfire 960. Still not finding enough reviews about these foils online, even youtube has limited reviews. Why are these guys not promoting these foils, they need a social media guru

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Mark Horn said..
There is no doubt the LX has more glide than the HPS. I have both the HPS880 and the 980. I never really had a issue with the 980 or 880 not gliding enough for the gybes but the LX760 definitely glides all the way round and if you trim it right quite a long way out the other side as well. There's certainly no rush to grab the handles. I just roll into the gybes let go with the back hand and glide until I'm fully on the new tack and then swap hands. As I said earlier I have the LX970 on order I've been so impressed with the LX760

I use an Axis 325 Progressive tail for everything and a standard ultrashort fuse. I'm not a fan of the advanced fuses as for me they were just pitchy but don't turn any better but that could be just me. If you unlike me like the advanced fuse then you'll love it with the LX because compared to the HPS it will turn as well, tip breach better, glide way better and be faster

Hi Mark,Has the LX 970 arrived yet, do you have any feedback on it?

Hi Donathon,
After reading Mark's review back in April of the LX760 I pulled the trigger and got one.
It arrived this week and a friend got the LX970.
Unfortunately looks like no waves in our area this weekend but some wind hopefully.

I will wing my LX760 and try some flat water paddle ups with the LX970 and let you know my thoughts.

I'm coming from the ART899, ART999 and ART PRO1201. I briefly had a Spitfire 900 but really didn't enjoy it.
I weigh 80kgs and prone foil, wing and downwind.

Will report back after this weekend.
Cheers

Hi Foilinaround,

wow thats great news, looking forward to that, . So you were not happy with the Spitfire, my mate has the 960 and 900 and wings with them he had the ARTS before but found them too technical. Ok waiting for the review, have a great weekend on them.

Be great to hear a review. Gotta ask what's up with their lack of online presence? In this age of everyone wanting to be on youtube reviewing stuff there appears to be no one doing theirs. I wonder if it's some kind of underground guerilla marketing strategy.

I've just been comparing to Axis foils & it seems there's none that are similar in size & AR.

Ok first run on the LX760. Sub-optimal conditions but just had to try it.
Went winging, wind was dead offshore 8-12knots and very patchy.
Gear used - DW board, 3.8PPC, 82 mast, adv ultrashort fuse with 360 skinny tail. I am 80kgs.Got up no issues on a gust and felt very slippery.
As Mark has stated previously has excellent lift for size and great glide. It felt like I was riding the 999 but with the snappy manoeuvrability of the 899.
Got the tips out a few times with no issues very similar to a Spitfire breaching. Turning felt like a Spitfire as well way better than the ART.

After the wing decided to try some flat water paddle ups with the LX970. Same set up - DW board same mast, fuse, tail etc.
Took a few attempts and was a bit of a grind but just managed to paddle up on to foil. would move the mast forward a touch and probably go for a larger tail next time. But I will definitely be purchasing the LX970 as well. Will keep posting more reviews as I try it in more conditions.
Cheers

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Foilinaround said..
Ok first run on the LX760. Sub-optimal conditions but just had to try it.
Went winging, wind was dead offshore 8-12knots and very patchy.
Gear used - DW board, 3.8PPC, 82 mast, adv ultrashort fuse with 360 skinny tail. I am 80kgs.Got up no issues on a gust and felt very slippery.
As Mark has stated previously has excellent lift for size and great glide. It felt like I was riding the 999 but with the snappy manoeuvrability of the 899.
Got the tips out a few times with no issues very similar to a Spitfire breaching. Turning felt like a Spitfire as well way better than the ART.

After the wing decided to try some flat water paddle ups with the LX970. Same set up - DW board same mast, fuse, tail etc.
Took a few attempts and was a bit of a grind but just managed to paddle up on to foil. would move the mast forward a touch and probably go for a larger tail next time. But I will definitely be purchasing the LX970 as well. Will keep posting more reviews as I try it in more conditions.
Cheers

Well that is a very great review, wow 8-12knts and on foil with a 3,8m!! this for me is minimum 5.5m and on the lower end my 8m, I weigh 86kg dry!I had a feeling that the foil would be lively, you mentioned the glide was good as well and turning even breaching, All positives for me, have you though or will you wing with the LX970?