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Farang > 9 months ago, 18 Feb 2021

Bigsnut

30 posts

22 Mar 2021 9:09am

gonna be a few minis for sale when the screen version arrives

John340

QLD

3373 posts

23 Mar 2021 1:18pm

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Big**** said..
gonna be a few minis for sale when the screen version arrives

Probably not as most serious GPS sailors wear at least 2 approved devices on potential pb days to ensure they have a result if one unit fails

BSN101

2378 posts

25 Mar 2021 10:48pm

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JulienLe said..
As Andrew said, I work full time and do Motions on saturday, sunday, monday morning now. I sent 15 Mini every week for the past few weeks and started sending 5 LCD a week last week.

I'll make a longer topic about this in the coming weeks because I had an offer I can't refuse but long story short, nothing changes for you and things will get back to normal in May. I'm not taking any new orders as I'm about 10 from clearing Mini and 35 from clearing LCD. I'll do that first, I'll accept new orders next.

I've been considering quitting, it would be by far the easiest to me. And it would stop the money leak Motions currently are. But as long as it's the only accurate device and as long as some of you will want one, I'll carry on. Also, I owe it to previous supporters of the project.

Great to hear this Julien. My mini is great except when I drive with it. But that's my fault lol. I put my name down for an LCD model ages ago, does that mean it's coming? I not received notification since going on the waiting list. cheers Dave

Erwan

QLD

1 posts

6 Apr 2021 2:31pm

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JulienLe said..
- I'll reply to every email tomorrow.
- Mini got a 20% battery increase two months ago. LCD got a 20% battery increase now.
- Still no LCD #8 failure to my knowledge.
- I'm doing LCD, LCD, LCD now. Clearing up the list. I'll have some Minis available in April.
- The electronics components shortage is getting worse. Some parts are quoted for 2022 now. I secured plenty a few months ago. I secured some more now.

Good to hear you didn't give up Julien ! And please don't forget us in New Caledonia !!
Waiting for LCD ones but meanwhile if you have minis ready to ship I would love to have one ASAP :)
Best GPS device I know. Keep up the good work.

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

14 Apr 2021 7:00pm

One minor and confusing issue I have had with the Motions Minis is that they were quite slow to display on my 13" MacBook Pro. Not the connection of the WiFi. That only took seconds. But the display of the browser pages. Each one could take minutes to load.

This was in contrast to the iPhones I have, which all display each page virtually instantly.
I was never able to really speed it up much,

BUT,

I now have a new MacBook Pro and the pages load virtually instantly, just like on the Iphone.

It must have been a problem with my old laptop, but that is is now almost forgotten.

JulienLe

405 posts

16 Apr 2021 2:06am

Running at 10Hz 3-GNSS with the active quality filter creates issues once every blue Moon. Users, what is your opinion on downgrading to 5Hz to get rid of this once and for all? It will also increase accuracy. Thank you. =)

TRIMMER

QLD

217 posts

16 Apr 2021 4:40am

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JulienLe said..
Running at 10Hz 3-GNSS with the active quality filter creates issues once every blue Moon. Users, what is your opinion on downgrading to 5Hz to get rid of this once and for all? It will also increase accuracy. Thank you. =)

If you reduce the motion to 5hz would you then increase the channels ?
Really doesn't make a significant difference.
What filter are you using?

GreenEgg

8 posts

16 Apr 2021 2:44am

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Julien,

Are these issues being caused by logging on 10 Hz. Or due to irregularities in algorithms being used for parsing raw GPS data to AOA format ?

JulienLe

405 posts

16 Apr 2021 3:03am

Trimmer > yes and filtering by SV link quality.

GreenEgg > yes, by 10Hz 3-GNSS being the limit of the receiver. With SV in-use uncapped, it will skip frames in every log. With SV in-use capped, as it is now, I have exhibits of issues lasting a second in each of 2 logs.

I have one last idea to save 10Hz but I'll try it tomorrow (9pm here). In the meantime, I'm welcoming user's opinions.

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

16 Apr 2021 9:27am

If you want to give the option of 5Hz, that would be fine, but please keep the option to run at 10 Hz as now. Also consider the extra option of running @ 8Hz. It would be best if the Hz rate was user settable as with the original USB LCD motion.
In my testing and use I have not seen any reason to change. But I will go back and specifically search for any evidence of the issue now.

decrepit

12802 posts

16 Apr 2021 9:21am

YES Andrew 8hz!!!
Will that allow more sats, especially those lower down

Xbraun54

74 posts

16 Apr 2021 5:02pm

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sailquik said..
If you want to give the option of 5Hz, that would be fine, but please keep the option to run at 10 Hz as now. Also consider the extra option of running @ 8Hz. It would be best if the Hz rate was user settable as with the original USB LCD motion.
In my testing and use I have not seen any reason to change. But I will go back and specifically search for any evidence of the issue now.

Agree with Andrew on this one, in the initial Motion there was also the option to select native .UBX , i would recommend this feature as well, to prevent issues with the algorithms used to parse to AOA.

JulienLe

405 posts

16 Apr 2021 5:08pm

What issues? No one ever contacted me about an issue with oao. It's ubx in a smaller format anyway.

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

16 Apr 2021 9:57pm

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Xbraun54 said.. In the initial Motion there was also the option to select native .UBX , i would recommend this feature as well, to prevent issues with the algorithms used to parse to AOA.

In all my testing with the Motion, I compared UBX output and OAO output and it was absolutely IDENTICAL. It is the same data. There is no issue.

Farang

43 posts

16 Apr 2021 9:38pm

Hi Julien,

When will my Motion GPS be ready? I have been waiting for it since July 2020.....

Thanks and Cheers, Pingu...

Xbraun54

74 posts

17 Apr 2021 4:47am

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sailquik said..

Xbraun54 said.. In the initial Motion there was also the option to select native .UBX , i would recommend this feature as well, to prevent issues with the algorithms used to parse to AOA.

In all my testing with the Motion, I compared UBX output and OAO output and it was absolutely IDENTICAL. It is the same data. There is no issue.

"There are NO American Troops in Baghad...." LOL...Impressive Scientific analysis .... but anyway... i'm not talking in any way about current know issues, but recommend to support native .UBX format to prevent any potential issues.... so make it an option to make a choice , select the native .ubx format supported by the manufacturer, or go for a bit more customized option with some fancy algorithms.... just an opinion , as requested

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

17 Apr 2021 8:25am

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Xbraun54 said..

sailquik said..

Xbraun54 said.. In the initial Motion there was also the option to select native .UBX , i would recommend this feature as well, to prevent issues with the algorithms used to parse to AOA.

In all my testing with the Motion, I compared UBX output and OAO output and it was absolutely IDENTICAL. It is the same data. There is no issue.

So I stated the obvious, and you completely agree with me that there is no issue. So please explain exactly why you would want .ubx output when the output results are identical. It is analogous to the difference between .sbn and .sbp, the latter is simply an abbreviated version with only the essential data, which greatly reduces storage space and overhead.
And what the hell has it got to do with American troops in Bagdad?!!

JulienLe

405 posts

17 Apr 2021 4:51pm

I'm about one third done and I'll have the second third done by month end. The last third are replacements for screens with black lines that were still usable/readable as-is.

I'm finishing 4 LCD and 16 Mini this saturday morning.

Dezza

NSW

955 posts

17 Apr 2021 7:34pm

Thankyou for keeping the motions production going Julien, it's a massive contribution you're making to our sport with these gps's, both the LCD and the minis are well worth waiting for.

remery

3709 posts

17 Apr 2021 9:23pm

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Dezza said..
Thankyou for keeping the motions production going Julien, it's a massive contribution you're making to our sport with these gps's, both the LCD and the minis are well worth waiting for.

I'll go along with that.

segler

1658 posts

17 Apr 2021 10:21pm

I don't even own Motions, but I still say, good on ya, Julien.

Trucker Bob

18 posts

17 Apr 2021 11:06pm

I've also been waiting since ordering a Motion LCD on 9/1/2020 . Sure hope I'm still a go.
From the US

BSN101

2378 posts

18 Apr 2021 8:05am

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JulienLe said..
I'm about one third done and I'll have the second third done by month end. The last third are replacements for screens with black lines that were still usable/readable as-is.

I'm finishing 4 LCD and 16 Mini this saturday morning.

Is there a timeline for the large motions? I put my name in the queue at the beginning but other than then not sure if I'm still in line. love the mini except when I do something wrong like leave it on for 14 hrs. Lol

BSN101

2378 posts

18 Apr 2021 8:05am

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conormate

NSW

27 posts

19 Apr 2021 6:28pm

Out of interest. Who has received their LCD motion order in the last month or so?

JulienLe

405 posts

19 Apr 2021 4:52pm

No one here I'd assume, they all went to England, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium. The last three to Australia were version 8, it's version 10 now.

If I send the first devices of a new version to Australia, I'll only know about issues three weeks later when more devices have already been built and I'm off all these devices, the shipping costs and later the replacement shipping costs. I can't risk it.

Now, as everything seems fine with the first devices, I expect the first ones to Australia to ship next week in a big batch.

mikey100

QLD

1105 posts

20 Apr 2021 5:47am

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JulienLe said..
No one here I'd assume, they all went to England, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium. The last three to Australia were version 8, it's version 10 now.

If I send the first devices of a new version to Australia, I'll only know about issues three weeks later when more devices have already been built and I'm off all these devices, the shipping costs and later the replacement shipping costs. I can't risk it.

Now, as everything seems fine with the first devices, I expect the first ones to Australia to ship next week in a big batch.

That sounds like a logical plan. Totally trust Julien's rollout sequence. I waited for my logger and am 100% happy with it, so am happy to wait for my screen version.

BSN101

2378 posts

23 Apr 2021 10:38pm

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Julien, can you confirm that I have an LCD motion ordered. I ordered prob 18-24 mths ago. I can actually find the date that I post on a thread here that I was in the queue. what info from me do you need if any? cheers Dave Windsor Busselton West Australia

JulienLe

405 posts

25 Apr 2021 11:24pm

Firmware 3020:
- LCD: www.motion-gps.com/motion/downloads/Motion-3020.bin
- Mini: www.motion-gps.com/motion/downloads/Mini-Motion-3020.bin

- Removes the dynamic quality filter, so you can now run/bike/walk with it,
- removes an ublox gimmick that threw the receiver in a memory panic once,
- brings back receiver update rate in the settings,
- 1Hz to 5Hz stays on GPS+GLONASS+Galileo+SBAS, 10Hz now on GPS+GLONASS+SBAS,
- solves a website cache issue for those of you who visit the website of a device, then another device, then another device.

tbwonder

NSW

735 posts

26 Apr 2021 8:53am

I updated my Mini Motion to firmware 3020 this morning.
I was expecting to see an option in the setting menu to choose between 1Hz, 5Hz or 10Hz. Or is this option only for the LCD Motion?

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