Select to expand quoteGestalt said..
I'd also like to see wave boards ditch the fancy boxes and go back to future boxes for the front fins and us box for the rear. consistent across the industry. That allows surfboard fins and windsurfing fins to cross pollinate.
Please no! I think US box is an awful system and slot box works much better. Without derailing this thread, surfing fins might not be suitable/strong enough for windsurfing anyway.
Select to expand quoteptsf1111 said..Gestalt said..
I'd also like to see wave boards ditch the fancy boxes and go back to future boxes for the front fins and us box for the rear. consistent across the industry. That allows surfboard fins and windsurfing fins to cross pollinate.
Please no! I think US box is an awful system and slot box works much better. Without derailing this thread, surfing fins might not be suitable/strong enough for windsurfing anyway.
I find us box is great. What don't you like about it. I guess nuss boxes fill both use cases. so maybe nuss is the tech jump forward.
Whilst I like slot box it's flawed.. threads trip, jam up etc.. I've got lots of slot box boards and I'm getting over it..there are multiple thread spec and slot box internal widths.
can confirm futures boxes are more than strong enough. FCS is not as the plugs roll. fcs2 may be, have not tried it. Lots of board builders using surf boxes.
Select to expand quotebradsblah said..Gestalt said..
Is it really just a waist harness converted to a seat harness or something different..
Try it out.
I've often wondered if leg loops from a climbing harness might do the job?
I like the hook height of a waist harness, but it does ride up. If I have it so tight that it doesn't ride up, then I feel like it affects my breathing a bit.
Select to expand quoteMJP68 said..bradsblah said..Gestalt said..
Is it really just a waist harness converted to a seat harness or something different..
Try it out.
I've often wondered if leg loops from a climbing harness might do the job?
I like the hook height of a waist harness, but it does ride up. If I have it so tight that it doesn't ride up, then I feel like it affects my breathing a bit.
I wouldn't go near kite surfers with that setup.
Gear has progressively become lighter over the decades, kudos to the profession. The best way to get on lighter gear for the everyday sailor is to lose some kegs. Smaller boards, rigs etc, less loads etc... everything gets lighter/heavier as a ratio of F=ma. Newton developed this to work out what to use when he got to the beach, so should we.
Unless you're a speed sailor chasing knots. Or sail on Stars, then you need leverage so eat them pies.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..I find us box is great. What don't you like about it. I guess nuss boxes fill both use cases. so maybe nuss is the tech jump forward.
It's so fiddly with getting that nut in, then that tiny screw...
Also can't move the fin all the way to the front (not all boxes compensate for the bit that sticks out).
Agree on stripping slot box screw holes, that's annoying indeed.
Select to expand quoteptsf1111 said..Gestalt said..I find us box is great. What don't you like about it. I guess nuss boxes fill both use cases. so maybe nuss is the tech jump forward.
It's so fiddly with getting that nut in, then that tiny screw...
Also can't move the fin all the way to the front (not all boxes compensate for the bit that sticks out).
Agree on stripping slot box screw holes, that's annoying indeed.
Reading your comments I started thinking it would be great for main fins to use fcs2 rollers like on longboards. Just snap into place. Most surfboard center fins are a little too thick for windsurfing and the leading edges are fatter so more draggy on purpose.. might see if I can find some fcs2 type centre fins with nicer foils and try them.
