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jimbob SA said..
Can't seem to find any specs on the Naish windsurf hover board, like width and length etc. there only seems to be the volume .
anybody know?

229 x 73 cm x122litres

Foil mount is a plate on 2x us boxes

www.fanatic.com/windsurf/boards/foil/gecko-foil-ltd

www.facebook.com/naishfoiling/videos/1857463184576049/

Hope this helps get through Winter and ready for spring

First real run on the JP hydrofoil board with the NP RS Flight AL

Only a 15 min session after work before sunset but well happy

Ate crap quite a few times but what awesome fun doing it

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elmo said..
First real run on the JP hydrofoil board with the NP RS Flight AL

Only a 15 min session after work before sunset but well happy

Ate crap quite a few times but what awesome fun doing it

Nice work elmo

Did it take much wind to get up on the foil?

Cheers Russ

Got out on the RSX convertible yesterday in 15 to 18kn lots of fun and teeth clenching.
This gear is awesome and easy to use.

G'day Russ
According to the windmeter 15km away 9-13knots, realistically slightly less, sail was a 6.7 NP Fusion HD, I'm 90kg

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elmo said..
G'day Russ
According to the windmeter 15km away 9-13knots, realistically slightly less, sail was a 6.7 NP Fusion HD, I'm 90kg

That's Fantastic elmo

Foiling is going to open up a whole new light wind range of fun.

Cheers Russ

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elmo said..
G'day Russ
, I'm 90kg

What when you were 18

63kg till 25 I made Evets look podgy

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elmo said..
63kg till 25 I made Evets look podgy

Mate I think your getting altitude sickness while you are Foiling and its reducing the amount of oxygen getting to your brain, which is distorting your memories of how much you weighed in the past Look forward to seeing you progress in Foiling and I might join you some time in the future Now off to pack my trailer and car

wow -looks good.

when you are sailing is it a comfortable stance/position ?

or do you feel like a contortionist and make it look easy ?

hello.

here is a short clip showing mantafoils new products.

Hi the Naish foiling website is up.

naishfoils.com

Cheers Russ

www.facebook.com/1220291231402166/videos/1303922673039021/

It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards.

Normal board would separate easy enough if you ran over kite lines... but with a foil axe - it could potentially get tangled and send someone into, what is called a kite DeathLoop, and seriously injure them by getting dragged into the foil or kill them..

Or if the kiter releases both primary and secondary releases - the deathloop will drag the windsurfing board hard into what or whoever is in the way, causing a fatality..

Just watching down my local - it could possibly happen..

**** happens may poleys prevail!

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SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards.

Normal board would separate easy enough if you ran over kite lines... but with a foil axe - it could potentially get tangled and send someone into, what is called a kite DeathLoop, and seriously injure them by getting dragged into the foil or kill them..

Or if the kiter releases both primary and secondary releases - the deathloop will drag the windsurfing board hard into what or whoever is in the way, causing a fatality..

Just watching down my local - it could possibly happen..

**** happens! Hope this doesn't happen where l go..

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gavnwend said..
**** happens may poleys prevail!

SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards.

Normal board would separate easy enough if you ran over kite lines... but with a foil axe - it could potentially get tangled and send someone into, what is called a kite DeathLoop, and seriously injure them by getting dragged into the foil or kill them..

Or if the kiter releases both primary and secondary releases - the deathloop will drag the windsurfing board hard into what or whoever is in the way, causing a fatality..

Just watching down my local - it could possibly happen..

**** happens! Hope this doesn't happen where l go..

Heres some food for thought...

Think about the last time you crashed at full speed and came to a "Sudden Stop" ? Now add a few feet height to that stop... your still hooked in twisted up either lying on top of the boom or underneath the sail underwater trying to free yourself from the twisted harness lines..

3- 4 seconds and suddenly your being dragged like a truck has hit you, either still underwater and now you think your going to drown or being dragged over the beach over the rocks into trees or across a road into traffice or a house.

A bit like a tow rope around you - tied to a car in 2nd gear... you can swear or pray to god, but it will Not stop dragging you until either (A) you get smashed and wedged into something solid Or (B) the kite hits something solid and stops..

Have a safety plan if sailing with kiters..

The kiters who do all the freestyling tricks are always crashing the kite after failed attempts or landings.

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SaveTheWhales said..

gavnwend said..
**** happens may poleys prevail!

SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards.

Normal board would separate easy enough if you ran over kite lines... but with a foil axe - it could potentially get tangled and send someone into, what is called a kite DeathLoop, and seriously injure them by getting dragged into the foil or kill them..

Or if the kiter releases both primary and secondary releases - the deathloop will drag the windsurfing board hard into what or whoever is in the way, causing a fatality..

Just watching down my local - it could possibly happen..

**** happens! Hope this doesn't happen where l go..

Heres some food for thought...

Think about the last time you crashed at full speed and came to a "Sudden Stop" ? Now add a few feet height to that stop... your still hooked in twisted up either lying on top of the boom or underneath the sail underwater trying to free yourself from the twisted harness lines..

3- 4 seconds and suddenly your being dragged like a truck has hit you, either still underwater and now you think your going to drown or being dragged over the beach over the rocks into trees or across a road into traffice or a house.

A bit like a tow rope around you - tied to a car in 2nd gear... you can swear or pray to god, but it will Not stop dragging you until either (A) you get smashed and wedged into something solid Or (B) the kite hits something solid and stops..

Have a safety plan if sailing with kiters..

The kiters who do all the freestyling tricks are always crashing the kite after failed attempts or landings.

So you are saying that windsurfers need safety education if sailing with kiters who are Freestyling or foiling...?

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Al Planet said..

SaveTheWhales said..

gavnwend said..
**** happens may poleys prevail!

SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards.

Normal board would separate easy enough if you ran over kite lines... but with a foil axe - it could potentially get tangled and send someone into, what is called a kite DeathLoop, and seriously injure them by getting dragged into the foil or kill them..

Or if the kiter releases both primary and secondary releases - the deathloop will drag the windsurfing board hard into what or whoever is in the way, causing a fatality..

Just watching down my local - it could possibly happen..

**** happens! Hope this doesn't happen where l go..

Heres some food for thought...

Think about the last time you crashed at full speed and came to a "Sudden Stop" ? Now add a few feet height to that stop... your still hooked in twisted up either lying on top of the boom or underneath the sail underwater trying to free yourself from the twisted harness lines..

3- 4 seconds and suddenly your being dragged like a truck has hit you, either still underwater and now you think your going to drown or being dragged over the beach over the rocks into trees or across a road into traffice or a house.

A bit like a tow rope around you - tied to a car in 2nd gear... you can swear or pray to god, but it will Not stop dragging you until either (A) you get smashed and wedged into something solid Or (B) the kite hits something solid and stops..

Have a safety plan if sailing with kiters..

The kiters who do all the freestyling tricks are always crashing the kite after failed attempts or landings.

So you are saying that windsurfers need safety education if sailing with kiters who are Freestyling or foiling...? I actually thought that Too .l think us sailors should this keep our distance from the kites. I don't think spectra lines will mix with alloy wingfoils.

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SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards..

Both as in my first post.
I windsurfed since 83' and kited since 07'... the first vid shows how much power the kites can produce in launching 80-100kg guys in medium to strong winds, in a split second.


This second video is of a lucky kiter in light wind - but could be 'your' windsurf foilboard... add an out of control kite Looping in stronger wind, and guess the ending who ever is in the way.


So yes education for both kiters and windsurfers with new toys.

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Al Planet said..

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So you are saying that windsurfers need safety education if sailing with ....?

This probably needs to be split off into another thread. If you're blasting around and totally unaware of any and everything else on the water then you need to take a good hard look at yourself.

Your main task is to make sure you don't add to the distress of any less able craft, no matter what the cause.

Second job is to make sure you don't add yourself to any carnage that might be happening.

Third is to render assistance if you can.

Last job by a long long way is to have fun. Think you can manage all that?

If a kites lines wrap around your foil just let it all go, we arent joined to the board or kite like a kiter. mind you i might get a line cutter and keep it tucked in my rashy jyst in case

If a kites lines wrap around your foil just let it all go, we arent joined to the board or kite like a kiter. mind you i might get a line cutter and keep it tucked in my rashy jyst in case

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SaveTheWhales said..

SaveTheWhales said..
It will be great to see the Poleys back up to speed in lighter winds..

Perhaps a big Education promo for both kite and windsurf foilers now that their will be some guys charging out with axes under their boards..

Both as in my first post.
I windsurfed since 83' and kited since 07'... the first vid shows how much power the kites can produce in launching 80-100kg guys in medium to strong winds, in a split second.

This second video is of a lucky kiter in light wind - but could be 'your' windsurf foilboard... add an out of control kite Looping in stronger wind, and guess the ending who ever is in the way.

So yes education for both kiters and windsurfers with new toys.

The death rate of kiters is still up in the stratosphere compared to windsurf. And hydrofoil kiting is very dangerous compared to regular kiting even if people go out in less wind. Just injuries: apparently busted ear drums are rather frequent after a fall ... I don't see how windsurf foiling can even get close when it comes to danger. And safety on the water? We have a big racing fleet of foiling kites here and I stay away from them as much as I can. They obviously don't care about coming close when they are going for a mark and a collision with a foil at a combined 50 knots of speed is probably a VERY serious matter.

NASCARs hit each other at 200mph ( combined 400mph) and just trade paint.
if it were head on that's a problem.
most racing is everyone going same direction.
though in my Speedway days I did hit a car going sideways across track at 140kph and that hurt.
anyway if the point trying to be made is a windfoil board getting caught in kite lines and that stopping the kite from its safety being activated, then yes that's a problem.
but there is enough other stuff on a windsurfer to catch lines anyway to the overall probability of such an incident happening doesn't change enough to cause concern.

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but there is enough other stuff on a windsurfer to catch lines anyway to the overall probability of such an incident happening doesn't change enough to cause concern.

RAL - you know thats the most Irresponsible thing you can say, please show and tell us what comes "UP OUT OF THE WATER" after you run kite lines over on a foil - when everything else is thrown forward of the lines from momentum and the lines go slack ???

The kiter may completely release both safetys if the kite starts to loop - and that means the foil board will be in front of the bar - and send the kite to Full Power, when it connects..

Like I said earlier - a windsurfer or kiter or surfer or swimmer or sun bather or kids building sandcastles -will NOT be able to stop a full powered kite in a deathloop.

Just like Guns - People now have an axe under them - and new rules will apply to their awareness and use of them.

We know how many kooks there are in both kiting and windsurfing..

Education - not Probable ignorance, water safety always comes first.

Windfoiling is back where kitefoiling was 2-3 years ago. You're all imagining things and portraying them as considered opinion. Once you're actually doing it you will find the reality to be way different to what you imagine.

Early windfoils are going to be unimaginably slow. That's fine because it takes a while to learn how to control speed and lose the fear of dying on every crash.

To get fast you will need to go to extremely specialised gear, well developed skills and good conditions. You won't care because the experience is so amazing and the upwind performance will initially blow your tiny minds.

You'll be getting tired because you're getting out every day and all your trusted wind indicators will have to be reassessed.

Yes there will be some hard smacks down and the presence of the foil can be scary. You might even cut a toe or foot while water starting. As you gain a couple of hundred hours of experience you'll wonder what the fuss was about.

You'll all be starting off in light winds and trying to ride around in nothing. But then you'll discover the joys of carving the foil off chop in stronger winds. A swooping carving foil gybe easily rivals a lay down gybe for grin inducing sensation.

Initially you'll lug the foiling gear around along with all the other stuff. One day you'll just throw in the foil and one or two sails and realise you've got the whole wind range covered between 10 and 40 knots and it's all fun. The straps will finally dry out on that favourite board that you always used to ride.

You'll promise yourself you won't jump because that will be instant death. Then you'll try it and find that jumping is possibly the easiest move you can do.

Everybody will be ordering aluminium masts to start with because they're cheap and that is what is for sale. Carbon will come on the market and you'll wonder why you wasted so much time with horrible aluminium.

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SaveTheWhales said..

RAL INN said..


but there is enough other stuff on a windsurfer to catch lines anyway to the overall probability of such an incident happening doesn't change enough to cause concern.

RAL - you know thats the most Irresponsible thing you can say, please show and tell us what comes "UP OUT OF THE WATER" after you run kite lines over on a foil - when everything else is thrown forward of the lines from momentum and the lines go slack ???

The kiter may completely release both safetys if the kite starts to loop - and that means the foil board will be in front of the bar - and send the kite to Full Power, when it connects..

Like I said earlier - a windsurfer or kiter or surfer or swimmer or sun bather or kids building sandcastles -will NOT be able to stop a full powered kite in a deathloop.

Just like Guns - People now have an axe under them - and new rules will apply to their awareness and use of them.

We know how many kooks there are in both kiting and windsurfing..

Education - not Probable ignorance, water safety always comes first.

You are on a windsurfing Forum preaching safety for other water users when your own kite surfing body gives guidelines that are all about the safety of the kiter but not for other water users. The very thing they recommend (staying close to shore) is the very thing that makes Kite Foiling so dangerous for other water users!!!