Some good debate in here and some good words. Especially liked this line "and there, below me and the foam, was a floater. Not a turd but a young man on a log," - straight from OB it would seem

The comments take a while to get going - but if you enjoy the clubby vs surfer arguments then this place has it all.
http://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2015/01/01/2015-year-reconciliation-clubbies