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<div>Hi Kami,
If you don't have time to finish my board design, can you send the file to me, please?

<div>Thanks for your help and consideration.
SoCalGremmy

romatcoro@gmail.com

Just waking up and read your @mail... My CAD version is S3Dx as you already see it . I remenber to open S3Dx is to open it with Akushape firt to convert it in boardcad file and then in S3D.

Try this way . Anyhow, you cant modificate S3Dx with S3D because z cant be negative on S3D ... as well changing any point of any curves of this drawing will blow out all the whole balance

z is the depht of point to do mono-concave for example such as getting rail line lower than the stringer. However your design doesn't contain mono concave .

I hope it's working that way......
I will send you this file of what I play with this morning in a last set of work.


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As you can see on those diagrams below you board is well volume balance, buoyancies are nearly equal in each quarter of the board. You cant have more stabile , IHMO

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Hi Kami,
I think I like, more, this design that you posted for me on Oct 25th.
I like the double concave bottom, the wings at the tail, the parallel rails and the square nose.
Which design do you think would better fit me?



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<div class="forumPostText">Hi Socalgremmy, drawing my own project I already did the more stable board for the length of 7' If you ask to stretch this board too much you will have a ponton IMO But here we go to 8'2" 31"lup to your request as you see below. Fins are very important; need to be 4 fins as a quatro . As you see there is a flat entry enhanced by concave to paddle on to enter wave, some belly in forward center going into a strong rocker to roll on while surfing along the parallel outline tail completed with good vee concave front of fins to dig rails as much as you can do with some help of the paddle. Rails are blocky to get more cross balance but this board is thin about below 4" such thin still allowing 115 liters which is enough volume to make you glide paddling because this board is very well balance and float flush in water not sinking from tail Are you pleased of this

Hello Bob, the design I post in October 25th is a stretch of my board I like in a smaller dim . I streched it to larger dims because you had requested it but I reckon the SIMSUP you show me on a link is better suited to the 8'2" 31" 120 liters you ask for.
So I have done some adjustments to the one I design recently for you with some influences from the one of Oct25th; Pulling in the hips and dig around fish tail which is giving more short board design rather than a secure SUP.
Note the split tails of the fish. A pure classic with modern tune up, you make me frothing to swape from my shortSUP design to this kind

Serge,
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!!!!
I like it............ALOT

Not sure what you mean by "frothing to swape from my shortSUP design to this kind."
But I hope you mean you like it too....

Can you send me the file ready for CNC?

Thank you sooo much.
Your friend,
SoCalBob
PS: you're welcome to come visit Southern California. We have extra bedroom.

Serge,
One more request....
Can you make the nose more square like your shortSUP, thus giving a bit more parallel rails?
Thanks,
Bob

Not so easy to give a more square nose like my 6'5" on your 8'2"...I suggest you this one above , what you think ...is it OK for you , bedroom in California is still ok for me
So I have to balance more parallel line on nose and adjust other lines and found this board. More flat entry to fit the new parallel line and to enhance SUP paddling ; can be use like a nose rider as well. Have done a belly at beginning of the last third to make a transition into vee concave and tail lift, split tail ends.
Fins position might suit the tail still need to be tune up after a while of use, si I suggest you to put FCS plugs easy to remove or to add some more eventually.
Up to you to have this board with more rocker because this is up to the type of wave you use to get in California.
Designing this board and focusing on rocker line, I did think about Spider Murphy shapes from ZA from which I got a lot of influences in past shaping decades . This man is a great artist indeed .

























This board has well balanced buoyancies too .

Here concave plan shapes

Hoops, been reading you on your @mail you really want a square nose like mine ... since I google SanDiego

So , keeping the same rocker line and thickness, I redraw pulling back max width and find some outline which fit the square nose you want.

Witch one of those last 2 design do you prefer, I might do few some cleaning on draws later on.

Hi Bob, as I involve more and more into CAD functionalities , I'm able now to blend perfectly all curves I can imagine for you. My last set :

It's basically a classic longboard rocker, concave at nose and a long lift to the single fin. BUT, as it is a quatro with front fin up on rails, I bring the concave to the middle of the board or shortened the rail length up the front fin. This done, to do a easy paddling SUP and still a fun board to ride. And you got the square nose you like.

Now the file is ready to CNC , I send to you if you agree it








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I like it alot!

Hi Bob, by now your board is perfectly design IMHO , I call it " Bob express"

So please download your board from this link and open file on your 3SD program to watch your complete board on your computer screen .

Can be watch on the little viewer available on the link below too:

www.shape3d.com/Warehouse/Board.aspx?Board=2062


To make it easy for you to order , I mail you the different files needed by your CNC operator in San Diego.

Hi Kami
I really like the design of the board with the channels and the round nose - please do not lose it as I think I will be interested in a smaller version of it in the future ?:-)

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Hi Kami
I really like the design of the board with the channels and the round nose - please do not lose it as I think I will be interested in a smaller version of it in the future ?:-)

No problem, I will load it on http://www.shape3d.com/Warehouse, so I will tun up and customize for you later

Dear Bob , as you tell me in your last @mail while staying in NorthCalifornia, I have to turn the last 8'2" 31" 125 liters which was nose riding influence in a more thruster kind of board.
So this last request make me more studying about and I find this one here below . Thinner board ( 4'1") with buoyancy more far back, with narrow nose but round/square slight concave under to get some drive from paddling and flat entry; Some rocker in the tail with some flyer near hips of the board to fit this quatro finned board.
Thinnered the nose will allow you to go easily trough the soup while coming out SUPing. Sorry about real square nose ,cant get it more square

HI BOB , This is the LAST drawing of this board because this is completed design

I send you files on your @mail.

Hi Bob, according to our @mail , please copy and paste kind of board I designed you would like to last adjust before to send to CNC.

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Kami said..
Hello Bob, the design I post in October 25th is a stretch of my board I like in a smaller dim . I streched it to larger dims because you had requested it but I reckon the SIMSUP you show me on a link is better suited to the 8'2" 31" 120 liters you ask for.
So I have done some adjustments to the one I design recently for you with some influences from the one of Oct25th; Pulling in the hips and dig around fish tail which is giving more short board design rather than a secure SUP.
Note the split tails of the fish. A pure classic with modern tune up, you make me frothing to swape from my shortSUP design to this kind

This is the one!
CALBOB 82 31 120

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Kami said..
Not so easy to give a more square nose like my 6'5" on your 8'2"...I suggest you this one above , what you think ...is it OK for you , bedroom in California is still ok for me
So I have to balance more parallel line on nose and adjust other lines and found this board. More flat entry to fit the new parallel line and to enhance SUP paddling ; can be use like a nose rider as well. Have done a belly at beginning of the last third to make a transition into vee concave and tail lift, split tail ends.
Fins position might suit the tail still need to be tune up after a while of use, si I suggest you to put FCS plugs easy to remove or to add some more eventually.
Up to you to have this board with more rocker because this is up to the type of wave you use to get in California.
Designing this board and focusing on rocker line, I did think about Spider Murphy shapes from ZA from which I got a lot of influences in past shaping decades . This man is a great artist indeed .

























This board has well balanced buoyancies too .

Here concave plan shapes

Kami - Those boards look awesome! You are quite the artist. It would be greatly appreciated if you uploaded all of these to the Shape 3d Warehouse.

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Kami said..
Just waking up and read your @mail... My CAD version is S3Dx as you already see it . I remenber to open S3Dx is to open it with Akushape firt to convert it in boardcad file and then in S3D.

Try this way . Anyhow, you cant modificate S3Dx with S3D because z cant be negative on S3D ... as well changing any point of any curves of this drawing will blow out all the whole balance

z is the depht of point to do mono-concave for example such as getting rail line lower than the stringer. However your design doesn't contain mono concave .

I hope it's working that way......
I will send you this file of what I play with this morning in a last set of work.


Is this shape pleased you




















As you can see on those diagrams below you board is well volume balance, buoyancies are nearly equal in each quarter of the board. You cant have more stabile , IHMO

Serge,
I'm posting here a copy of "CALBOB 82 31 120"
I want to make sure this is the final design and we are on the same page...

Hello Bob , here is the final file I'm sending you to make it build in San Diego. I hope you will be pleased with it.
From the last file, I erase the 4 channels which was hard to laminate in but I did a larger fish to lighten the tail area with still kind of tail inspired from the board you show to me in picture . This way you might have more chance to dig those rails in while carving this wide board tail.
Pretty proud of my plan shape work note extra bites (in yellow) around the tail and fins on this first picture below.

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Kami said..
From the last file, I erase the 4 channels which was hard to laminate in

Kami, you know much more about shaping than I do, but would a single big concave be an easy to glass solution to provide grip, control, and easy rail to rail?

It works quite well on my "Tomo".

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colas said..

Kami said..
From the last file, I erase the 4 channels which was hard to laminate in

Kami, you know much more about shaping than I do, but would a single big concave be an easy to glass solution to provide grip, control, and easy rail to rail?

It works quite well on my "Tomo".

From surfing my own SUP shapes, I learn that SUP is able to dig outside plan shape of the bottom of the board. Hard to bury the full plan shape as shorties do on their 5'10" 18". So I think that a mono profil shortie won't work best . Triplanes works better on wide SUP plan shapes. Also I reckon to gear SUP with smallest fins as possible as you use C-drive to allow digging rail.

As well I think that using center fin is useless because center fin rarely torque in the water and mostly drag the rest of the time.

Kami,
In one word: AWESOME!!
You are quite an artist.

Thx Bob this a few compare to the 7 free nights with the three bitches in San diego you promised

Lost the picture of them you sent me , I let you show those 3 spankies to the Sea breezers to not make it embarrassing....

Kami,
Don't worry, you wont have to sleep alone . One of our bitches will keep you company....
However, we may have a logistics problem.
Sweetpea, the one on the right, is pregnant and we are expecting babies around January 8th. Me wife will be in Mexico, visiting her family until 16 January 2016, so I will not be able to leave the house for more than a few minutes until after she returns.
It will be better if you come after Jan 20.
Hopefully, I will finish building our "bomb" by then and you will be able to try it out.....Thanks,
Bob

I've seen the three bitches I may spend some time with... LOL, I love dog, got Attila a femel cairn terrier 14 years old, she is the only femel who did'nt split from me! very faithfull ha ha!!

Did'nt reply on sea breeze because have been and am still busy around my job and... designing a quiver of 2 board to travel Nicaragua at Miramar in Sandino. Heavy wave in your Pacific Ocean!

So I really think to come visit you if you please during a week after spending 3 or 4 weeks at Miramar. I have to leave here before the 20th because have to come back here before first of marsh 2016. I probably will come to you last week of February so... tell what you think about because I'm waiting you agreement before buying my ticket flight France/Managua/sandiego/ France

About our bomb design , I check it again this morning after reading your last mail telling about not accurate slices ...nothing wrong up to me but I've made some slight modification to improve the precision of this shape. So please load this S3D file up here called "CALBOB 8 2 31 120 factory file modif " and give it to your operator with the 2 dxf* I allready send to you.

Have a nice day and awaiting your reply on my @mail. Thx Bob.



Here my quiver in construction 6'10 28" 90 litres winged and 7'11" 28" 100liters 6 channels bottom

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Hey Kami,
Are those your quiver for Naiaragua?
Nice.....

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I met a guy on the Standup Zone who builds about 12 surf-SUPs a year. He sounds very knowledgeable.

<div>His name is Roland aka "surfinib"

<div>He has hooked me up with Paragon CNC and Global Glassing of Oceanside, CA, some consider the best shops around.

<div>He commented that he likes our bomb very much and has designed and built similar shapes in the past. His only suggestion was that he would make more nose rocker. He suggests 5.5" for that size board.

<div>I'm glad he mentioned it, because you asked me about the type of waves I usually surf and I had planned on discussing nose the amount of rocker with my cousin, Pete, and you. My cousin turned out to be a flake and doesn't return my calls for help.

<div>My older Naish 8'10" x 31 Mana has 6 1/2" of nose rocker.

<div>My Naish 8'8 X32 has almost 9".

<div>One reason I like the X32 is the ability to do late takeoffs and not pearl (nose dive). One of the things I don't like about it is that it is hard to paddle straight.

<div>The waves I usually surf are beach breaks with late takeoff.

<div>What do you think?
Also, any details I should tell the CNC operator?

<div>Bob

Hi Bob , i don't forget you ever if I can't come to America and sadly never meet those soooo... cute bitches cause too very busy here...
Been working on your board early this morning , lifting the nose and managing blending foil lines. Cant put channels without using 3Dlayers... as I done before.
What you think about this one work out today Is enough rocker now on this new design


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Hi Kami,
Yes, rocker looks good.
Why did you change the bottom?
I like the bottom in the first drawing of 26/11/2015 post with "extra bites (in yellow) around the tail and fins on this first picture below. "

Either one, concaves or channels is fine as long as CNC machine can cut what you design.
The more the machine does, the better!

Thanks,
Bob