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bigmtn
bigmtn
51 posts
51 posts
28 Jan 2020 4:19am
Been riding the 900 with the short fuse and 400 stab for a few months now. Prone board (4'7 and a 4'3), I'm 6'2" 170lbs. Really liking it but want to make it looser and better at turning. For those that have played around with the new stuff, what will give me the most bang for my buck?

ultra short fuse - $330
370 rear wing - $185
340 rear wing - $181

I live in Hawaii, so the waves usually have plenty of juice.

haha I'm getting a lil tired of throwing money into the sport. I realize the best option is the ultra short and a smaller stab, but I kind of only want to get 1 of the above for now. Which would you choose?
toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
28 Jan 2020 6:36am
I'd get the ultra-short & look into chopping your 400
bigtone667
bigtone667
NSW
1559 posts
NSW, 1559 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:04am
The ultra short fuselage is like going from a town car to an formula one car. A shrinking your rear wing will loosen stuff up as well.
Go the fuselage first.
Piros
Piros
QLD
7296 posts
QLD, 7296 posts
28 Jan 2020 7:08am
100% the ultra short fuse first lol at a new tail but cutting down the 400 definitely an option . Your question is a really common one " I love the 900 but want to loosen it up" It's time for a Axis dedicated high performance surf wing . There is a proto tweaked 85 floating around . The new 66 is pretty cool for towing / kiting and smaller prone guys but just too small guys my size . Adrian is always onto the R&D so interesting to see what's next but definite gap in the range right now.
bigmtn
bigmtn
51 posts
51 posts
28 Jan 2020 7:49am
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.
scubaste
scubaste
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:16am
bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.


Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard




Clamsmasha
Clamsmasha
WA
311 posts
WA, 311 posts
28 Jan 2020 8:39am
scubaste said..

bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.



Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





Well that looks like it came out mint!
JEG
JEG
VIC
1469 posts
JEG JEG
VIC, 1469 posts
28 Jan 2020 12:44pm
scubaste said..

bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.



Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





make us some Gofoil tails too please
oceansalt
oceansalt
QLD
7 posts
QLD, 7 posts
28 Jan 2020 1:22pm
Go the 340. It's a game changer. If that's not loos enough add the ultra short.
scubaste
scubaste
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 11:48am
Clamsmasha said..


scubaste said..



bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.





Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





Well that looks like it came out mint!



Thanks man
scubaste
scubaste
WA
210 posts
WA, 210 posts
28 Jan 2020 11:55am
JEG said..

scubaste said..


bigmtn said..
Thanks, I figured that would be the answer, just wanted to hear it from someone who has made the change and could give me an idea of how much of a difference it would make.




Make yourself a 370mm wing, really not that hard





make us some Gofoil tails too please


No worries Jeg.
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler
505 posts
505 posts
28 Jan 2020 3:47pm
bigmtn said..
Been riding the 900 with the short fuse and 400 stab for a few months now. Prone board (4'7 and a 4'3), I'm 6'2" 170lbs. Really liking it but want to make it looser and better at turning. For those that have played around with the new stuff, what will give me the most bang for my buck?

ultra short fuse - $330
370 rear wing - $185
340 rear wing - $181

I live in Hawaii, so the waves usually have plenty of juice.

haha I'm getting a lil tired of throwing money into the sport. I realize the best option is the ultra short and a smaller stab, but I kind of only want to get 1 of the above for now. Which would you choose?


Agree, I have ultrashort fus and 370 and I can feel it is better for sure, I think I'm gonna chop my 400 to see how it goes.

The 660 front wing would be a good option especially for good waves, as it is really good for turning tighter and harder but you will have to sacrifice the pumping (still you can pump back out but not as easy as the 900).

I think we will see some new wings coming up, so the best and cheapest is to get the new ultrashort fus and chop your 400.
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler
505 posts
505 posts
22 Mar 2020 8:34pm
Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/
hilly
hilly
WA
8120 posts
WA, 8120 posts
22 Mar 2020 9:10pm
frenchfoiler said..
Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/



Disclaimer I cannot pump to save my life. However I do not see that as surf foiling. He just pumped around and went straight on the swell. Which is what HA foils do really well. So it was a pump video.
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler
505 posts
505 posts
22 Mar 2020 10:32pm
hilly said..


frenchfoiler said..
Surf foiling with the 900/ultrashortfus/370/75cm mast and 4'3 x 19 x 2.9 - 31L

www.instagram.com/p/B-AJtIVoa2x/





Disclaimer I cannot pump to save my life. However I do not see that as surf foiling. He just pumped around and went straight on the swell. Which is what HA foils do really well. So it was a pump video.



I agree, in this video I pump more than I surf the wave, but the wave was super tricky to surf, super shallow and lots of moving water, so the best option was to catch a small wave inside and pump back out to bigger non breaking wave and do a carving turn outside. The feeling of carving onto an up coming wave is really nice, trying to not pump at all on this part on be as sharp as possible (work in progress). Just another way to ride, on the wave and between.

This is the good thing with video, you can see what is wrong and I do reaslize I need to surf more the face of the wave and this is the hard part.
Hank1
Hank1
54 posts
54 posts
23 Mar 2020 4:43am
Has anyone cut the tips off the 900 wing?
frenchfoiler
frenchfoiler
505 posts
505 posts
23 Mar 2020 3:17pm
Hank1 said..
Has anyone cut the tips off the 900 wing?


I don't mind cutting a back wing as it is not too expensive but a front wing is too expensive to try.
jondrums
jondrums
186 posts
186 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:55am
chopped gofoil 210 here (not mine)
forum.surfer.com/index.php?attachments/46d2adf5-f63b-4877-990c-18e759e3b952-jpeg.87717/

spoiler - he glued it back together after trying it once

my favorite quote from the thread:"John, that is my very much cherished 210. I'd had a few drinks, I noticed the hacksaw trying to get my attention from across the bar, tryed to ignore her..but the jungle drums were beating and we both woke up feeling used."
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
24 Mar 2020 11:30am
900 is a great wing but is never going to let lean right over
Since I've gone ultra short and chopped 500 for everything I've retried all my old wings. Addicted to the 68 for prone, 900 Sup, 92 for wingding
Holoholo
Holoholo
258 posts
258 posts
24 Mar 2020 12:43pm
Anyone have feedback on the 750 for prone? I primarily ride the 900 but do have a 750 available for cheap price.
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:56pm
I'm about 78 kg and the 750 sits in no mans land for me, too small for good pumping and 68 turns way better
Hank1
Hank1
54 posts
54 posts
24 Mar 2020 2:01pm
Forget about the 750!! Cut down the 900 and let us know how it goes, I reckon you will be pumping and turning like a cat on a hot tin roof!!
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
24 Mar 2020 7:03pm
Hey hank cut it down let me know ??
Camarillo
Camarillo
369 posts
369 posts
24 Mar 2020 4:44pm
Jedibrad said..
900 is a great wing but is never going to let lean right over
Since I've gone ultra short and chopped 500 for everything I've retried all my old wings. Addicted to the 68 for prone, 900 Sup, 92 for wingding




Is the chopped 500 that much better than the 440 or the 400? And how wide did you make it?

Do you prefer the ultrashort also for Sup and Wingding?
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
24 Mar 2020 8:10pm
Cut just before it turns up
Turns better, and recovers from tail breach
I did cut a smaller one but didn't like it. Although that was a while ago and I have been trying to pump like keahi with feet closer and slower so I should try it again
Camarillo
Camarillo
369 posts
369 posts
27 Mar 2020 4:47pm
Thanks , I will start with taking 1 cm off on both sides , all the time in the world now , 3 weeks lockdown...
Can you post some pictures off your modified 500?

I preordered the (new) ultrashort fuse, a 76 carbon mast, the S1010 and the 460 rear a long time ago....




warwickl
warwickl
NSW
2360 posts
NSW, 2360 posts
27 Mar 2020 8:39pm
Moses gear works for me.
Alysum
Alysum
NSW
1030 posts
NSW, 1030 posts
30 Mar 2020 3:36pm
I'm on the 680/400 short fuselage, 75cm mast for kite foiling.

I wish to get into winging and maybe SUP foiling, I've read good things about the ha 1000 wing got winging, but is it enough surface for SUP ? Or do people run a separate wing for SUP (like 920) and winging ?
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
30 Mar 2020 1:03pm
The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.
Alysum
Alysum
NSW
1030 posts
NSW, 1030 posts
30 Mar 2020 4:37pm
tightlines said..
The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.


Thanks - sounds like 1000/1020 would be a good combo
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
30 Mar 2020 4:40pm
Alysum said..

tightlines said..
The 1000 is my go to for winging and SUP foiling.
I do use the 1020 occasionally when the wind is very light or the 900 if it's really windy, or for bigger surf on the SUP.



Thanks - sounds like 1000/1020 would be a good combo


Or a 900/101.

The 102 is fairly slow and draggy but will get you going earlier.
I tried the 101 once it will definitely get foiling easier than the 1000 but is still fairly fast and slippery compared to the 102.
I have not been able to get my hands on one though.
It's always a tough choice and a compromise if you want to SUP in waves and wing, but for me at 85kg if I could only have one it would probably be the 1000.
I'm sure others would have different ideas though.
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