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kite foiling....it aint easy

Created by daddycool daddycool  > 9 months ago, 26 Jan 2015
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daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

19 Feb 2015 8:32am
That is astonishing progress Billy - I woul like tips from you!
scubaste
scubaste

WA

210 posts

19 Feb 2015 10:44am
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daddycool said...
That is astonishing progress Billy - I woul like tips from you!


Roll back the clock 28 years when ya balls, an attitude were bigger than ya panel van........
snalberski
snalberski

WA

858 posts

24 Feb 2015 4:15pm
Stumbled across this image but couldn't find any info other than its a North product thats in the pipeline


Lambie
Lambie

QLD

742 posts

24 Feb 2015 8:15pm
I came across this - not kiting with a foil but - from what Ive read about foiling - very gutsy !!



I have the upmost respect for you guys having a crack at foiling !!
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

24 Feb 2015 10:38pm
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snalberski said..
Stumbled across this image but couldn't find any info other than its a North product thats in the pipeline




definite wtf moment there. I found this too . 3000 euros = $4,500?

www.pressure-drop.us/forums/content.php?5008-A-Different-Kind-of-Foil

http://www.surfpirates.de/North-Kiteboarding-Hydrofoil-2015
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

24 Feb 2015 10:22pm
Ill have 2 then !! Oh wait.... How much is a Euro?
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

26 Feb 2015 10:12pm
Dean from Torquay on his first go on the new foil
jamesperth
jamesperth

WA

611 posts

26 Feb 2015 10:04pm
Is the "new" foil the North Foil mentioned above ?
jamesperth
jamesperth

WA

611 posts

27 Feb 2015 8:20am
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jamesperth said..
Is the "new" foil the North Foil mentioned above ?


Oops watched in full..... It's a KFA. My mistake ! Looks effortless.
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

27 Feb 2015 8:20am
That's an inspiring piece of video - such fluid movement and control
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP

QLD

1855 posts

27 Feb 2015 11:46am
yea he must be a slack line master Also note that he is riding strapless by the looks on this tiny board. Good on him!
Phezulu1
Phezulu1

WA

66 posts

27 Feb 2015 6:33pm
Another cool video:

(hope this link works)
ActionSportsWA
ActionSportsWA

WA

1001 posts

4 Mar 2015 3:45pm
Just goes to show that everything old is new again, just watching the foil section of 'Boosting the next level' at work
circa 2002/2003
Toddy




jamesperth
jamesperth

WA

611 posts

8 Mar 2015 5:56pm
Had a win this afternoon - finally it's starting to click and i managed and hour and half session covering 23-odd kms.

connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/713865769

I think I'm up to session 8 or 9 - under 10 hours in total Id say, and today was the first time i felt in control (mostly) of my ride height and could enjoy it
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

17 Mar 2015 1:33pm
Finally!! Must have put in 20 sessions, mostly on river, and now comfortable on both tacks for long runs up wind and off the wind. Even got a couple of jumps in- weird feeling especially if you don't get the hydro and aero lifts coordinated.... Next step toe side and then transitions. The LF foil fish has been great to learn on and only now testing it's top speed. Emailed LF in the US about a new faster set of foils ( higher aspect ratio) and they say they will release a set in June/July ( presumably to catch northern hemisphere summer). Am now curious to at least trying one of the all carbon set ups.

THANKs for all the encouragement from the Perth foil brigade.....you were right....it really is about persistence , time on the water and patience. In answer to the second poster on this thread.....YES, it most certainly is worth the hassle - average low wind days have turned into great days thanks to foiling
flyingcab
flyingcab

VIC

942 posts

17 Mar 2015 8:51pm
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snalberski said..
Stumbled across this image but couldn't find any info other than its a North product thats in the pipeline






Man that design is so dumb, and at that price point... who is it aimed at??
I would think by the time you are willing to set back $4,500 for a 1 piece carbon foil, you would no longer need the "safety bars"
And if it is for beginners, why make it one piece?
If a beginner was wealthy enough to buy this I'm sure they are smart enough to see the problem of having to replace the whole thing because of a cracked wing
DARTH
DARTH

WA

3028 posts

17 Mar 2015 6:41pm
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daddycool said..
Finally!! Must have put in 20 sessions, mostly on river, and now comfortable on both tacks for long runs up wind and off the wind. Even got a couple of jumps in- weird feeling especially if you don't get the hydro and aero lifts coordinated.... Next step toe side and then transitions. The LF foil fish has been great to learn on and only now testing it's top speed. Emailed LF in the US about a new faster set of foils ( higher aspect ratio) and they say they will release a set in June/July ( presumably to catch northern hemisphere summer). Am now curious to at least trying one of the all carbon set ups.

THANKs for all the encouragement from the Perth foil brigade.....you were right....it really is about persistence , time on the water and patience. In answer to the second poster on this thread.....YES, it most certainly is worth the hassle - average low wind days have turned into great days thanks to foiling


Were you off Scarbrough on Sunday? Saw a foil going up wind at a great speed!!
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

17 Mar 2015 8:44pm
Not me Darth - I wish - probably one of the PKR crew - they move upwind at improbable angles and speed. I'm still hanging out at the river with occasional trip to saftey bay.
pilotpete
pilotpete

WA

147 posts

17 Mar 2015 11:32pm
Was out testing LF with carbon speed wings today all went very well


daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

18 Mar 2015 6:52am
They look good pilotpete! Home made? Are they quicker / more stable?
pilotpete
pilotpete

WA

147 posts

18 Mar 2015 7:14am
Yes good speed much less drag than the std but require more forward speed to get on the foil to begin with which is normal for higher AR wings. Wings are carbon x4 layer with tri-axle core very strong and stiff. Stability is good and ride was very smooth, note the back wing is mounted on top of fuselage to avoid any turbulent flow from front wing, this does require an additional two mounting holes to be drilled and tapped for 6 mm threads.
BillyHampton
BillyHampton

WA

78 posts

18 Mar 2015 7:46am
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flyingcab said..

snalberski said..
Stumbled across this image but couldn't find any info other than its a North product thats in the pipeline







Man that design is so dumb, and at that price point... who is it aimed at??
I would think by the time you are willing to set back $4,500 for a 1 piece carbon foil, you would no longer need the "safety bars"
And if it is for beginners, why make it one piece?
If a beginner was wealthy enough to buy this I'm sure they are smart enough to see the problem of having to replace the whole thing because of a cracked wing

Hi flying cab,
The north foil is not a one piece design! Maybe try the foil first before bagging it. i haven't tried it but a lot of my friends say its a pretty good foil to learn on and you don't get cut!

maybe look at these pictures.

http://www.northkiteboarding.com/products/boards/foil/foil-ltd/
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

18 Mar 2015 10:10am
You guys and all of Sir V's enthusiastic posts are slowly but surely bringing me round to joining up.

I live near the beach, but downwinders are generally too hard to organise in limited time off, plus winds are often light when I could go. I can see a foil (+ foil kite perhaps) letting me get out in the ocean in lighter winds, have fun & stay upwind easily even when there's a strong sweep.

I'm a bit hesitant as I bought a race board and never got into it - I was pretty time poor and when I could actually get out I just found myself grabbing a TT so I could have fun / relax rather than eat it as a beginner again. Plus it was awkward to carry as it wouldn't fit under one arm (up to nearly 1km from home if tide was out) Sold it at a big loss (sure I'm not the only one there).

I haven't been going on the big forum for ages, but they have a really big hydrofoil section now

I like this vid - simple but the joy of speed, high aspect foil + high aspect foil kite





daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

19 Mar 2015 8:08pm
C'est MAGNIFIQUE! good point Monsieur flyingcab
bigtone667
bigtone667

NSW

1551 posts

19 Mar 2015 11:23pm
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kiteboy dave said...
You guys and all of Sir V's enthusiastic posts are slowly but surely bringing me round to joining up.

I live near the beach, but downwinders are generally too hard to organise in limited time off, plus winds are often light when I could go. I can see a foil (+ foil kite perhaps) letting me get out in the ocean in lighter winds, have fun & stay upwind easily even when there's a strong sweep.

I'm a bit hesitant as I bought a race board and never got into it - I was pretty time poor and when I could actually get out I just found myself grabbing a TT so I could have fun / relax rather than eat it as a beginner again. Plus it was awkward to carry as it wouldn't fit under one arm (up to nearly 1km from home if tide was out) Sold it at a big loss (sure I'm not the only one there).

I haven't been going on the big forum for ages, but they have a really big hydrofoil section now

I like this vid - simple but the joy of speed, high aspect foil + high aspect foil kite








Young Dave, I have started learning on the LF and it has been challenging but I think really worth it.

I have been amazed at how much fun you can have in very low winds.

Best piece of advice I was given is keep a lot of weight on my front foot and just keep the board down on the water when you first start.
daddycool
daddycool

WA

337 posts

19 Mar 2015 8:26pm



Awesome session on the river this evening - beginning to reap the rewards of those hours of lernin'
jamesperth
jamesperth

WA

611 posts

19 Mar 2015 10:04pm
I had a good session last Sunday but was off Hillaries... I'm thinking the same thing Daddycool, I'm keen to see some higher performance wings now that I'm getting comfy.

connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/719916055
flyingcab
flyingcab

VIC

942 posts

20 Mar 2015 3:05pm
^^ looks like you had some solid nose dives




kkiter
kkiter

NSW

452 posts

22 Mar 2015 12:35pm
This dude knows how to ride:


kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave

QLD

6525 posts

22 Mar 2015 3:32pm
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bigtone667 said..

kiteboy dave said...






Young Dave, I have started learning on the LF and it has been challenging but I think really worth it.

I have been amazed at how much fun you can have in very low winds.

Best piece of advice I was given is keep a lot of weight on my front foot and just keep the board down on the water when you first start.


Ha! I'm old enough to appreciate when someone calls me young

I'm definitely keen, but probably at least 6 months away due to life factors (surgery, baby, etc).

The horue lightweight foil would be a great 2nd foil I reckon, definitely not for learners. I like the simple, small, strapless board too, they're about to start selling them.









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