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gazza
gazza
WA
647 posts
WA, 647 posts
7 Apr 2009 4:58pm
shark said...

I agree GAZZA, its crap and lets get rid of it.

To all those "sheep" who say the "no's" dont like change etc-try some change and get up an hour earlier, come home an hour earlier. Truly the day and daylight is exactly the same.

If your boss wont let you, then grow a spine and tell him how it is.

But dont expect everyone else to change just for you.


Shark im for daylight savings not quiet sure how you thought i wasn't last post was tongue in cheek.

i get up at 5.30 and home by 2.30 so i dont need it.
But who knows what i maybe doing in 5 years from now.

i work outside and the difference in heat is really noticeable when you can start when the sun is just coming it gives you and extra hour of coolness in the morning
Nothing worst than starting when its already warm

VOTE YES





GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4103 posts
QLD, 4103 posts
7 Apr 2009 8:39pm
I just had it out with my boss, who is going to vote no. One good thing came out of the conversation though, I have confirmed that I have the freedom to change my working hours if it doesn't get in.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
7 Apr 2009 9:07pm
gazza said...

If power bills are going to rise by 20% just think about how much more time you spend with the lights and tv on now daylight savings are over

im bored sh1tless in the evenings now its dark at 6pm

all i can say you must have a pretty a boring life if tv and sitting around waiting to go to bed is all you want to do the evenings.

Vote yes

Yeah tell me about it Gaz.
630pm and the day is over!
Bring back DLS!
Vote YES!
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
7 Apr 2009 10:15pm
Sorry to say but no matter what we vote we aint getting it............

Backward state we live
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
8 Apr 2009 8:33am
MintoxGT said...

Sorry to say but no matter what we vote we ain't getting it............

Backward state we live


a backward state full of pisspoor politicians ... why do we need to vote, bring it in through legislation and be done with it... people eventually adapt , and if people hate it then next election vote for the politician that will remove it again.

from liberals, nationals and labor i bet only nationals wouldn't support dls as a party policy.
shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
8 Apr 2009 8:55pm
"Scientist have come up with two plausilble theories as to why Crocs are now venturing further south after the recent sightings at Coral Bay. One marine science polartition claims it's because daylight savings has finished in W.A. this has resulted in a greater time difference now between NT and WA. The crocs are taking advantage of this and by coming down into W.A. they are able to lie in the shadows created by the earlier setting sun. This makes them more difficult to see and allows them to stalk their unsuspecting prey. The Other, a Oceanegraphic economist claims the Global Recession is probably more likely to be the cause. In the recent years of economic boom the cost of travel was never a concern. Now with retirees investment funds halved and fuel prices still so high, the Grey Nomad set can no longer afford to travel the vast distances into the great Ausie North. As a result, the availabilty of the crocs natural food source, (the pet Chuaua) has diminished greatly resulting in the Croc having to come further South in search of this reptilian delicasy"



yet another reason to get rid of daylight savings!

less unseriously-if the worst you all have to worry about is a clock change-well things are pretty dam good i reckon. And I say that for myself also (a firm "no" voter)
Those who get really excited and nasty about it all (from both sides) need to get a grip.
Calling WA a backward state-well, maybe you need to get out a bit more perhaps and see what the other 75% of the world live with?

Its all good-either way. None of us are going to die, starve or get lynched or be subjected to Sharia law which ever way it goes.
gazza
gazza
WA
647 posts
WA, 647 posts
8 Apr 2009 11:24pm
shark said...


Calling WA a backward state-well, maybe you need to get out a bit more




I would but it 6.30 already and bloody dark outside
MintoxGT
MintoxGT
WA
975 posts
WA, 975 posts
9 Apr 2009 12:31am
shark said...

"Scientist have come up with two plausilble theories as to why Crocs are now venturing further south after the recent sightings at Coral Bay. One marine science polartition claims it's because daylight savings has finished in W.A. this has resulted in a greater time difference now between NT and WA. The crocs are taking advantage of this and by coming down into W.A. they are able to lie in the shadows created by the earlier setting sun. This makes them more difficult to see and allows them to stalk their unsuspecting prey. The Other, a Oceanegraphic economist claims the Global Recession is probably more likely to be the cause. In the recent years of economic boom the cost of travel was never a concern. Now with retirees investment funds halved and fuel prices still so high, the Grey Nomad set can no longer afford to travel the vast distances into the great Ausie North. As a result, the availabilty of the crocs natural food source, (the pet Chuaua) has diminished greatly resulting in the Croc having to come further South in search of this reptilian delicasy"



yet another reason to get rid of daylight savings!

less unseriously-if the worst you all have to worry about is a clock change-well things are pretty dam good i reckon. And I say that for myself also (a firm "no" voter)
Those who get really excited and nasty about it all (from both sides) need to get a grip.
Calling WA a backward state-well, maybe you need to get out a bit more perhaps and see what the other 75% of the world live with?

Its all good-either way. None of us are going to die, starve or get lynched or be subjected to Sharia law which ever way it goes.



Mate I just deleted about 30 lines of text because it aint worth the hassel, backward yes and I dont live in the other 75% of the world and DLS wont bother them if we get it.

I respect what you are saying it's just my opinion.

Be cool and look forward to being smoked by you on water some time

Cheers GT

iansn
iansn
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
21 Apr 2009 7:29am
BEFORE I GIVE A YES OR NO (BUT I ALREADY KNOW WHT ILL SAY) HOW MANY OF YOU ABOVE ARE 9 TO 5 OFFICE WORKERS ??????????????????
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
21 Apr 2009 11:23am
Isn't pretty much everything else in society (ie public transport etc etc) geared around 9-5 workers as they are by far the majority?
pooman
pooman
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
21 Apr 2009 12:32pm
Being an industrial state I would think there would be almost an even split of the 9-5 (ie Retail, CBD) and the industrial 6-3
shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
21 Apr 2009 8:54pm
getfunky said...

Isn't pretty much everything else in society (ie public transport etc etc) geared around 9-5 workers as they are by far the majority?


not sure about that-certainly not "by far" the majority
Only that they are by far the majority grouped into one tiny area and tend to believe they speak for all of WA, or that Perth is WA.
Hence subsidised train and bus travel for Perth and nearby towns only
Perth only blessed with being told where Multanovas are
Country people struggling for decent health services
Ditto schooling

At least Grylls is getting something happening, even though it might be short of the 25%
iansn
iansn
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
22 Apr 2009 5:34am
THE SKY IS BLUE, WATER'S WET, THE SUN RISES AND SETS EVERY DAY.

Doesnt everyone know WA stands for "wait awile"???? Doesnt everyone know that the curtains will fade, the cows wont milk and the chooks wont lay if we have DLS???? Come on guys, think about it , its true

Sharkies on the money with his view above. It seems "Perth" speaks for the whole of WA. DLS is designed for those poor souls who have to work their 9-5. They get up at 8, get home at 6 and want an "extra" hour of sun light. "Extra hour of sun light" does the world slow down during summer Can someone please let me know.

Try getting up when at sunrise one day, you will be amazed, surprised and proberbly enjoy the "experience".

WA, mmmmmmmm. Stats "suggest" that WA carries the rest of Australia, (mining, agriculture, farming) so wouldnt you have to agree that the "rest" of WA would be the majority. The ones who, no matter what fricken time it is, get up at sunrise or before, for their dayly grind, a grind of 12-18 hours per day.

9-5 there's no such thing in these boys dictionary.

So at the end of the day, I dont give a **** what we have, (cause the "pollies" will do what they want anyway - a vote or not).

Im one of the before sunrise croud doing the 12-18 hours per day.

But hay, I still get out in my boat every week, I still take the family to the beach every week, I still drink heaps of beers with my mates every week.

Go figure. Cheers.


westozwind
westozwind
WA
1418 posts
WA, 1418 posts
12 May 2009 4:38pm
If you want a real laugh check out the WA Farmers Federation website

www.waff.org.au/

You can even e-mail Chris Marris : chrismarris@wafarmers.org.au if you like


Daylight savings will hurt children walking home: farmers

The WA Farmers Federation is continuing its campaign against daylight savings, urging voters to consider the impact on children walking home from school in the heat of the day.

Federation spokesman Chris Marris says the 'Yes' vote would increase children's exposure to the dangerous UV rays.

He says over a 12-year school career, the sun could cause significant damage to a student.

Mr Marris says it is also a concern for children going to school on dark mornings.

"We know in country areas unfortunately the 40 kilometres an hour speed limit that we see in Perth and in built up areas doesn't apply, so we've got school children waiting for the bus at the end of driveways and at your farm gate with trucks and cars driving past at 100 kilometres an hour plus, so visibility could be a real concern," he said.


Come on, the 1 hour difference does not dramatically affect the UV levels that kids get. Also, what do they do at lunch time? Stay inside to avoid the worst of the UV rays? When they get home I'm sure they also hide away from the sun.
Peak UV levels happen at 12. Lunch time for most schools I believe, With daylight savings, "sun" time at midday is actually 11, so the UV rating is actually lower.
The dark mornings on is even more incredulous! What happens in the middle of winter? Same thing I spose, but it must be safer to be out on dark mornings in winter with wet roads.

Vote YES, you know it makes sense
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
12 May 2009 5:58pm
shark said...

getfunky said...

Isn't pretty much everything else in society (ie public transport etc etc) geared around 9-5 workers as they are by far the majority?


not sure about that-certainly not "by far" the majority
Only that they are by far the majority grouped into one tiny area and tend to believe they speak for all of WA, or that Perth is WA.
Hence subsidised train and bus travel for Perth and nearby towns only
Perth only blessed with being told where Multanovas are
Country people struggling for decent health services
Ditto schooling

At least Grylls is getting something happening, even though it might be short of the 25%




Hey don't get me wrong sharky, I just meant that economic rationalising (can't believe I used that in a sentance - I must be getting old) means catering most services etc to the peak times and greatest averages.

I might be a 9-5 er most of the time these days but wasn't for a decade or more, so I know how inconvenient it is and what it is like to be out of sync with the majority. Wifey also works shifts too and that can be a major pain in the butt with schooling etc etc etc.

Yep - no doubt about it the country get a rough deal in most respects but how are the same levels of services etc going to be provided to a relatively small population spread out in every direction? Not easy to fix - even when the Libs/Natchos ran the state previously and the country vote had more sway than it does now.

Your not on your Pat Malone in the country either mate. The Mandurah area has been the fastest growing population centre in Oz for years and the supply/level of hospital beds and health care (and other areas) have not improved or moved with the times at all.


ANYWAY DLS ROCKS FOR ME (but I won't hate ya guts if ya don't dig it ).
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
12 May 2009 8:32pm
Yes , yes and yes from me
iansn
iansn
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
13 May 2009 4:18am
Previously I said:

"So at the end of the day, I dont give a **** what we have, (cause the "pollies" will do what they want anyway - a vote or not)".

I was watching the news last night and it seems simple enough.

Write a "YES" in the BOX if you want DLS or write a "NO" in the box if you dont want DLS.

BUT, AND HERE IS THE BIG BUT:

IF YOU PLACE A TICK IN THE BOX, IT WILL BE COUNTED AS A "YES" VOTE BUT IF YOU PLACE A CROSS IN THE BOX, --------- IT WONT BE COUNTED AT ALL.

Am I missing something here???????????????????????????????????????????????

I thought we lived in AUSTRALIA ??????????. Aparrently FARKING NOT.
Greenroom
Greenroom
WA
7608 posts
WA, 7608 posts
13 May 2009 10:01am
I heard that YES votes will be counted as YES and NO votes will be counted as YES.
Put a TICK in the box and it will be counted as YES and CROSSES in the box will be counted as YES.

YES!

j murray
j murray
SA
947 posts
SA, 947 posts
13 May 2009 1:48pm
well the really hardest thing about it all is digging out the sundial to reset it so many times a year [}:)] nothing changes
FilthyAmatuer
FilthyAmatuer
WA
877 posts
WA, 877 posts
13 May 2009 1:01pm
noels said...

sorry to say I think we in the west have enough daylight hours in the summer.

My vote will be no.


Err, ahh, the number of daylight hours stays the same... They are just at a better time.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
13 May 2009 4:49pm
Greenroom said...

I heard that YES votes will be counted as YES and NO votes will be counted as YES.
Put a TICK in the box and it will be counted as YES and CROSSES in the box will be counted as YES.

YES!




Actually the ruling is that ticks will be counted as yes votes, however crosses will not be counted at all.

Sounds good all those that are too phick to sign their name (and to see the benefits of DLS - read the previous posts ) will be popping a big not counted X on the page.
Diver
Diver
WA
554 posts
WA, 554 posts
13 May 2009 5:20pm
WA = Wait Awhile?????? WTF.

Both Western Australia and Queensland didn't / don't have DLS and are the main drivers of the Australian economy, so why don't the rest fall in line with us.

There's a business argument for you, look where the revenue is coming from and not where it is being "spent" (read wasted).

Does anyone even remember that the vote was previously taken and the answer was NO. It is getting a bit much that we are being asked for a fourth time about something that has been voted on before.

How many different versions of NO do you people need?

VOTE NO

I'll duck my head now
iansn
iansn
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
13 May 2009 9:13pm
Well said Diver.

WHAT PART OF NO DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

Ill duck now
noels
noels
WA
93 posts
WA, 93 posts
13 May 2009 9:18pm
"In The West today" Be Careful how you vote.

The law requires voters to write either Yes or No in the box on the ballot, but the WAEC confirmed yesterday that while any deviation could render a vote informal, a tick would be counted as a Yes vote.

Mr Waddell told about 50 No campaigners, including about 15 Labor, Liberal and Nationals MPs and WAFarmers representatives, the decision to allow ticks was a disgrace.

He said he had a message for the commission: “Yes means yes (and) No means no. A tick? What does a tick mean? You are trying to manipulate the outcome of this referendum by allowing ticks to mean yes and crosses to be informal.
cranky
cranky
440 posts
440 posts
14 May 2009 9:28am
iansn said...

Well said Diver.

WHAT PART OF NO DONT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

Ill duck now



I am a NO voter but it's unreasonable to expect the outcome of any referendum to be forever, I wouldn't want previous generations to absolutely remove options for our future. If this time around DLS it gets voted in then so be it.
Loner
Loner
WA
122 posts
WA, 122 posts
15 May 2009 3:45pm
WINDY MILLER said...

CAN EVERYBODY REMEMBER TO VOTE FOR DAYLIGHT SAVING ON MAY 16TH.

IT WILL BE A REALLY CLOSE VOTE.

THIS MORNING WAS STILL DARK AT 7AM so i got to have a nice long lie in; without the sun rudely awakening me.

IF DAYLIGHT SAVING IS VOTED IN IT WILL BE DARK DURING SUMMER EVEN AFTER 7AM!!!!! errrrrrrr dont think so

IMAGINE GETTING UP AT 6AM TO HAVE A SWIM BEFORE WORK you must be as mad as madman, who has overdosed on mad pills

AND HAVING TO WAIT OVER 1 HOUR BEFORE DAYLIGHT!!!!! most times i wait between 9 -11 hrs for daylight.



IF YOU LOVE COMMON SENSE VOTE FOR DAYLIGHT SAVING

c'mon you no voters, pause, take a deep breath, stop thinking up lames excuses, move FWD with the rest of the world.

CHEERS


Daylight saving is common sense ?
A hot issue for sure and we surely all differ on this one but I hope it's voted OUT.
I find that there's enough light by natural timing , normal hours.
Our summers are now hotter than ever due to climate change.
For me, daylight saving extends that harsh Perth summer heat.
My watch and clocks stay on normal hours right through daylight saving.
It doesn't affect me.
pharro
pharro
WA
89 posts
WA, 89 posts
15 May 2009 4:19pm
Hey Diver
Judging by your Avatar (One of the most arrogant, self obsessed footy players ever) I wouldn't expect any other sort of response from you.


Does anyone even remember that the vote was previously taken and the answer was NO. It is getting a bit much that we are being asked for a fourth time about something that has been voted on before.

How many different versions of NO do you people need?


Spoken like a true idiot!
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
WA, 8890 posts
15 May 2009 8:18pm
pharro said...

Hey Diver
Judging by your Avatar (One of the most arrogant, self obsessed footy players ever) I wouldn't expect any other sort of response from you.


Does anyone even remember that the vote was previously taken and the answer was NO. It is getting a bit much that we are being asked for a fourth time about something that has been voted on before.

How many different versions of NO do you people need?


Spoken like a true idiot!



Good comeback Potts


You No you wanna Vote No
shark
shark
WA
361 posts
WA, 361 posts
16 May 2009 1:29am
pharro said...

Hey Diver
Judging by your Avatar (One of the most arrogant, self obsessed footy players ever) I wouldn't expect any other sort of response from you.


Does anyone even remember that the vote was previously taken and the answer was NO. It is getting a bit much that we are being asked for a fourth time about something that has been voted on before.

How many different versions of NO do you people need?


Spoken like a true idiot!







get a grip mate-no need to get snotty. Im sure it wont be the end of the world whichever way it goes tomorrow.
If its that important to you, then perhaps you should move to east coast to enjoy your beloved DLS.

Well said diver


cranky
cranky
440 posts
440 posts
16 May 2009 12:24pm
D day

My prediction, the yes vote will get it by 4%
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