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actiomax said..
Just on the off chance that he has lost all the money & now you got every body on him & he is
now getting divorced with avo & middle aged & destitute & you want 70% .
I can imagine his head would not be in a good place.
Well statistically there is a high chance of suicide is the extra 20% worth it compared to the next 10years of maintenance & would it be worth it to deprive the children of there father ?
Suicide under these conditions is all too common. and don't fool yourself that you know him & he won't as all of this has taken you by surprise .

So how would one find out if that guy has hidden away as much money as he thinks he can, or a poor unfortunate that genuinely lost that money?

The best advice I have ever head is to offer more than 50%, make it a decent offer, and then walk away without the lawyers fighting over who gets to consume a lot of the value arguing over a few percent here and there.

I guess the only real way to find out the situation is to go to court. Without disclosing what really happened, how would anyone know whether it was a scheme or an accident.

I wonder about the whole suicide argument. Do people do this that wouldn't otherwise do it anyway? Is 20% going to make that difference? I doubt it.

Dont listen to em babe they don't know you like I do, soon we'll be sipping cognac in Monaco the kids will be in boarding school in Irktusk all this business will be behind us

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pippasays said..

FormulaNova said..

actiomax said..
Just on the off chance that he has lost all the money & now you got every body on him & he is
now getting divorced with avo & middle aged & destitute & you want 70% .
I can imagine his head would not be in a good place.
Well statistically there is a high chance of suicide is the extra 20% worth it compared to the next 10years of maintenance & would it be worth it to deprive the children of there father ?
Suicide under these conditions is all too common. and don't fool yourself that you know him & he won't as all of this has taken you by surprise .

So how would one find out if that guy has hidden away as much money as he thinks he can, or a poor unfortunate that genuinely lost that money?

The best advice I have ever head is to offer more than 50%, make it a decent offer, and then walk away without the lawyers fighting over who gets to consume a lot of the value arguing over a few percent here and there.

I guess the only real way to find out the situation is to go to court. Without disclosing what really happened, how would anyone know whether it was a scheme or an accident.

I wonder about the whole suicide argument. Do people do this that wouldn't otherwise do it anyway? Is 20% going to make that difference? I doubt it.

Ha......I get the feeling this woman has had more divorces than you've had girlfriends......

Yeah, see that's the problem with asking for advice on a windsurfing forum. You will tend to get the worst responses from people that 'feel' that they know what is going on, but not much actual good advice.

It's like internet reviews, the one's that have been screwed over the most are the most likely to offer their opinion. The rest that are okay are probably going to stay quiet.

Still, she asked for advice here, so it's her problem to filter out the garbage from the decent advice.

Well, I once met this guy called Johnny Miller....

My advice? My advice was to see a lawyer and stop asking people on this forum for help.

The rest is just commentary. I think its worrying though that people jump to conclusions over someone that none of us has met. She could be legit, or she could be someone trolling. So what? We can offer information just the same, but its probably the people like you that bite that would be exactly what someone trolling would want.

You're too kind 'nova

Pippasays sounds like a knobhead. Sigh.................... remember the internet before deliberate sh!tstirring, when forums were nice places with like-minded individuals?

Totally uncalled for crap.

There's plobably an alert set up as soon as post the name milsy it generates a flag the same as if u used a naughty word?? serious though as a bloke can appreciate that 70/30 plus maint. is not all that fair especially if you're the one doing the earning but despair sounds like not in a real good place either so don't be too nasty.

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myusernam said..
...especially if you're the one doing the earning...

Being the one doing all the earning might be a sign of selfishness in the first place... careers can be pretty important to people... defining who they are... I'm absolutely certain that a person giving up work to care for children is doing a whole lot more than not earning.

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Pugwash said..

myusernam said..
...especially if you're the one doing the earning...

Being the one doing all the earning might be a sign of selfishness in the first place... careers can be pretty important to people... defining who they are... I'm absolutely certain that a person giving up work to care for children is doing a whole lot more than not earning.

I agree. I think a lot of people underestimate this.

Recently a good friend at work was telling me how lucky I was because I wasn't married. He described his wife and kids as an anchor holding him back. From where I sit, I would think of his family as more of a keel, keeping him on a steady path and letting him ride through difficult times. Not to mention the actual benefit of having a family around.

It was sort of strange that he seemed to ignore the benefits that a family gives you and the effort that his wife made to keep the family humming along. Its not something he would be able to have if his wife was working with a full time career.

Even the fact that his wife probably misses out on the freedom of having a job to escape to and to socialise with work mates is something that has value. Its made worse if that person has to suddenly change their life in middle age to start supporting themselves and the kids.

'every man thinks that his burden is the heaviest'

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FormulaNova said..

Pugwash said..

myusernam said..
...especially if you're the one doing the earning...

Being the one doing all the earning might be a sign of selfishness in the first place... careers can be pretty important to people... defining who they are... I'm absolutely certain that a person giving up work to care for children is doing a whole lot more than not earning.

I agree. I think a lot of people underestimate this.

Recently a good friend at work was telling me how lucky I was because I wasn't married. He described his wife and kids as an anchor holding him back. From where I sit, I would think of his family as more of a keel, keeping him on a steady path and letting him ride through difficult times. Not to mention the actual benefit of having a family around.

It was sort of strange that he seemed to ignore the benefits that a family gives you and the effort that his wife made to keep the family humming along. Its not something he would be able to have if his wife was working with a full time career.

Even the fact that his wife probably misses out on the freedom of having a job to escape to and to socialise with work mates is something that has value. Its made worse if that person has to suddenly change their life in middle age to start supporting themselves and the kids.

'every man thinks that his burden is the heaviest'

^^ those sum up my feelings on your post!