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Mark _australia said..No Ian, you don't want to answer that basic question as you know they are a necessary tool.
Then, you do know farmers need others to shoot for them.
Thus, your whole argument that no private citizens should have guns falls down. There is a sliding scale from nobody has them, all the way thru to the USA example that's obviously just a mess.
Australia has the balance about right.
I never said guns for everyone, I never said for self defence. You like to think gun owners here are all NRA-like but 90% are not.
You show that you hate guns on an irrational basis when you talk about competitive club shooters using all the derogatory terms you can think up - do you also treat competitive archers the same? Perhaps fencing?

You did say:
"Pathetic. The fact is you guys want guns for exactly the same reason that the criminals do, the guns make you feel powerful."
No mate - thats the d!ckheads with tuff dogs in their tuff utes all the more dangerous as they can't be controlled like a gun. I guess you campaign so heavily against that as well?
Its OK, you are allowed to hate something with no logic or reasoning. Some people just don't get it and thats you.
Well Mark it seems your comprehension skills are even poorer than your maths skills
I have answered your questions in this thread and many times in the past, but you refuse to listen or comprehend.
I have never said "no firearms for private citizens" but I have said many time I support a strong licensing system and controls like Iceland.
Our system while not bad does, in my opinion have some flaws, this is an opinion also held by your states Auditor General. Here is a brief article about this
www.itnews.com.au/news/wa-guns-database-sprayed-over-integrity-issues-525304Here is the full report
audit.wa.gov.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Firearm-Controls.pdfHere is also some good news (well not for you maybe) West Australia does appear to be looking at mental health checks for Firearms owners for your state
thewest.com.au/news/wa/was-gun-owners-face-mental-health-crackdown-ng-b881165467z