georgsurfer said..
Experienced winger but total parawing beginner here, 7th sessions, can get up and jibe, learning to stash. Tried BRM Kanaha, Ozone, Fone Frigate and Duotone Stash. For large size, Duotone was by far the easiest to jibe (short lines, super lightweight canopy, thin lines). Felt as easy to jibe as a 3m BRM, seriously. Had one session where I hit every jibe in 2.5 hours. 5m Ozone was very tough, had to be super precise or PR would drape over me/board as it turns so slow. Never had a success rate of jibes of more than 8 out of ten. BRM close to the Stash, but still more difficult. Stash flies very far forward in window, nice when on foil, feels more efficient but getting up requires cleaner technique, doesn't pull like a truck like PR or Frigate. Closed cell wingtips give Stash more stability and control when overpowered. Have to see what it does to stashing. Stash is nervous in flight, moves up and down a lot, at first it bothered me, now I disregard it and it's fine. 88kg, 100L downwind board, KT Atlas 790 and 960 foil.

georgsurfer said..
Had two more Sessions. One on 1340/5m Ozone. W this foil the Ozone is much easier to jibe. I can ride wide slow turns due to the huge glide and give the Ozone the time it needs to switch directions. Really nice how steady the Ozone flies. A 2 nd session in 18-23mph, first 5, then 4m Stash and 790 Atlas in sizeable chop (3ft). Missed 3 jibes in 2 hours, amazing how fast the Stash turns in comparison, but I wish the Stash would fly as steadily in a straight line as the Ozone.
pls keep in mind I'm a total beginner in PW, coming up on session #10

Acker said..
Just got my 4.7 Frigate but can't try it for a few days so can report back then. Nice having the Gold/Petrol Blue colour as change from all the Darker Red/Flame ones. Big standout - it's got chunkier ribs than the 3.5 and can tell that means ultra stable when flying on land. Will also mean have to concertina more in packdown, as don't want to bend the leading edge ribs. Lighter wind still a bit of a mystery - most of my learning has been Maui in 25-40knots w Kanaha 3.2 and 2.5!

MidAtlanticFoil said..




A tip to help a larger parawing to transition quicker (or any size for that matter). Rather than just changing the 'wrist angle' to initiate the wing through a jibe, simultaneously pull slightly down and the opposite direction of the jibe while changing the wrist angle. This will help initiate a banking turn and really keep the parawing more powered up. When you master this motion, you can do this type of banked turn just as you start turning your board downwind and the parawing can actually transition quickly and pull you through the maneuver. Practice on land.

MidAtlanticFoil said..




A tip to help a larger parawing to transition quicker (or any size for that matter). Rather than just changing the 'wrist angle' to initiate the wing through a jibe, simultaneously pull slightly down and the opposite direction of the jibe while changing the wrist angle. This will help initiate a banking turn and really keep the parawing more powered up. When you master this motion, you can do this type of banked turn just as you start turning your board downwind and the parawing can actually transition quickly and pull you through the maneuver. Practice on land.

flowstate said..With northern summer just around the corner, must be bout due for flood of new/updated parawings

Youngbreezy said..
Here's a cool vid of Dimitry evseev using the 5.4m PT skin for light wind wave riding. Must be fairly easy to pack if he's happy using it in the waves.
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Youngbreezy said..
www.facebook.com/share/r/1Gtj6aU4M9/?mibextid=wwXIfr
PT skin will be coming out in a 7.6m size! Now we're really getting into some light wind territory. A bit overkill for what I'm trying to do but something that has piqued my interest is the new triple 7 Upwind Downwind wing

777kites.com/uncategorized/new-p-t-udw-upwind-ready-downwind-perfected/

AnyBoard said..




Just reading their marketing material on UDW and it is designed for going downwind not upwind for more than transitioning further out.

Youngbreezy said..
I think it is designed to go upwind and hold a solid leading edge it's just not optimised for it. Instead they've optimised it for packing away. The PT skin is rated by many as being very easy to pack away. I have a 3m PT skin and it is ridiculously easy to pack but it is a 3m.

AnyBoard said..


I think your quote from fb is very clear. I think anyone would be disappointed if your game was that for every kilometre you rode downwind you had to earn it by riding upwind.

Youngbreezy said..
I think they just meant it goes upwind decent but isn't optimised....

Youngbreezy said..
I think they just meant it goes upwind decent but isn't optimised for it. Instead they've optimised it for pack ability.
I would be interested in a 5.6m with heaps of early grunt that packs down nice and small. Would be great for light days and to have in a dry bag for safety on longer runs or going far offshore.

Retina said..
Sabfoil Ala DW 3m is a good cheap alternative to ozone:

flowstate said..

Curious to see how Naish's new Hatch 5.1 compares with the above for that use scenario.