I was just last night planning my tactics on how to smash Daves world record distance of 511.60 km.
I thought I had it all planned out and then low and behold. Dave, Dave who? A pm from Jez this morning suddenly informs me that Dave is now a forgotten soul and been relagated to first looser.
Bad luck, Big Bad Dave!
Looks like we'll both be out there trying for the record, come Spring. October looks like the prime month I hope you can still sail after putting on the pounds during your cruise.
New record gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?team=67&date=2011-05-16

Us girly's have got it easy, we only have to hit 150 km to smash the ladies distance record....hopefully in spring[}:)]. It's very handy being a female records aren't so daunting!!

Stop being so sexist Kazza

Well you guys are stronger (well most) than us girly's and so probably have more endurance because you guys are the hunters, we're just made to cook and have babies......boring (not offending any wives & mums , just speaking for myself).

Started planning my comeback this morning ... !!

keep us all posted on your plans Dave - we can all support you on the big day eg sail with you for parts ( as if we could keep up with you !!) . Plus we should put it out in the media .
cheers ,Fitz

At least it wasn't a Victorian

Or you!!

I reckon it would be an interesting day if a few of us did get out early one morning and took up the challenge, could really end up being 'last one standing'!

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AUS02 said...

I reckon it would be an interesting day if a few of us did get out early one morning and took up the challenge, could really end up being 'last one standing'!

Sounds like 'Survivor'

I think I would start early with gusto and then by about 11am I would be looking for land. I think Dave would have to take on the role of team leader get stuck into me and keep me going.

[}:)][}:)][}:)]"Harden up Russ"[}:)][}:)][}:)]

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buzzy said...

At least it wasn't a Victorian

Too true

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Kazza said...

Well you guys are stronger (well most) than us girly's and so probably have more endurance because you guys are the hunters, we're just made to cook and have babies......boring (not offending any wives & mums , just speaking for myself).

Sounds like Kazza, Claire and all the girls a cooking for the big event

This is my plan, sail 4 hours do 150kms come in have 1 beer. Repeat that 4 times and you will have 600km, 4 beers in 16 hours, sounds easy peasy japanesy.

Just to show how competitive i am.
I am booked in in July to have a full sex change.( ready for the spring winds) .
I have already contacted my lawyers and they inform me that i will certainly qualify to take out a world record as a women.
Lets face it, i am not going to sail 500km as a man!

Damo if you got no b.lls you can't have a sex change

If you think about it the " last man standing " theme would be a pretty good event to see where you sit in the scheme of things. Obviously you would need to get a day where the wind never let up all day, but if everyone chose their easiest and most flexible kit to sail it would be great. Nice floaty board and most forgiving sail just in case the wind went through the roof. Somewhere you could stand up most of the time like Dorans would be perfect so people ( like me ) that only nailed one gybe in ten would still be able to get going again quickly.

You would need an independnt judge to kick people off if they were just standing around but if you were trying to waterstart or being seen to get your sail in position to get underway that should be good enough. Not pre empting the outcome before it would start but I think some of the older (cough cough ) more experienced sailors would really come to the fore.

Also if you added up all the distance covered in to one grand total between all the sailors it should be pretty impressive. Count me in !!

I think choose the day, which could be last minute depending on the forecast, should be able to get a good idea on the lead up. Then start when you can and finish when you can, which can be between 12am to 12am on the same day I would imagine people may launch from the same spot but would sail out and beyond during the day.

I'm with you though Wayne sail somewhere safe

If you really got keen you could say you get one hour of spare time for sail, board and fin changes so if you do get way over powered you can change down or vice versa but if you take twenty minutes to change sails you only have 40 minutes of " pit " time left so some sort of strategy comes into play. You just need to find someone who is prepared to be the judge and time keeper and be prepared to not sail in possibly great conditions. Anyone got any understanding wives, girlfriends or " life partners ". Only you Hobart blokes would have " life partners "

Wayne I reckon a couple of the other guys have it ALL worked out, but will not be willing to share

We'd just go off the GPS tracks, so doesn't matter how many stops, where you sail, where you go, how fast or slow you sail as long as you leave your GPS with your board when you take a break (not that short walks make any difference at all in the scheme of sailing 100's of km's - but driving to the shop might). Then you just post you session for the day and the one with the greatest distance wins. No judges, just name the day. Doesn't matter if the wind is fickle, light, howling or consistent all day - furthest distance wins.

I thought every time I went sailing it was a competition to be last one out or greatest distance

What we need is a nice W/NW 20-25 knot wind from about midnight, then we can sail at Dorans back and forth.
Then about dawn the wind needs to swing more SW maybe with abit of Southerly at 25-30, then we can use the whole of Ralphs and Mortimer Bays and really start to crank some kms up.
Then at sundown we need it to back round to W/NW 20-25 knots and head back down into Dorans to finish up with a final 100-150 km till midnight, depending on what time the sun went down

Final tally should be around ???? for approx 20-24 hours sailing, depending on how many breaks you have or just how consistant the wind is. I think in reality to get 24 hours of good wind is asking a bit much, but it may happen.

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buzzy said...

What we need is a nice W/NW 20-25 knot wind from about midnight, then we can sail at Dorans back and forth.
Then about dawn the wind needs to swing more SW maybe with abit of Southerly at 25-30, then we can use the whole of Ralphs and Mortimer Bays and really start to crank some kms up.
Then at sundown we need it to back round to W/NW 20-25 knots and head back down into Dorans to finish up with a final 100-150 km till midnight, depending on what time the sun went down

Final tally should be around ???? for approx 20-24 hours sailing, depending on how many breaks you have or just how consistant the wind is. I think in reality to get 24 hours of good wind is asking a bit much, but it may happen.

And a full moon would be nice to top it off, surely thats not asking to much

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buzzy said...

I thought every time I went sailing it was a competition to be last one out or greatest distance

That's a good way to wreck your body. Speaking from a sports science point of view, you need to listen to your body, especially as you get older. The body tells you when it's had enough for the day. I got so many injuries from sailing Geraldton in 2007, the achillies went, the lats went because of that wavesailing competition where you got points for staying out as long as you could. Good way to get shin splints too (Steve). You need to slowly build the body up for go for distance. Get into the weights at the gym, build your aerobic capacity up and lot's and lot's of stretching.
Specific exercises for the muscles you use for windsurfing is a must too & slowly building up sailing hours. I'll be the GPS personal trainer [}:)][}:)] so winter is a good time to start triaining

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Kazza said...

buzzy said...

I thought every time I went sailing it was a competition to be last one out or greatest distance

That's a good way to wreck your body. Speaking from a sports science point of view, you need to listen to your body, especially as you get older. The body tells you when it's had enough for the day. I got so many injuries from sailing Geraldton in 2007, the achillies went, the lats went because of that wavesailing competition where you got points for staying out as long as you could. Good way to get shin splints too (Steve). You need to slowly build the body up for go for distance. Get into the weights at the gym, build your aerobic capacity up and lot's and lot's of stretching.
Specific exercises for the muscles you use for windsurfing is a must too & slowly building up sailing hours. I'll be the GPS personal trainer [}:)][}:)] so winter is a good time to start triaining

What a load of crap! Wheres the sports science point of view? Your dribbling like a gym junkie!
Your preaching your own issues when refering to my post and questing my capacity to acknowledge my own boundaries.

Ok! So your using my post as an example of what not to do.

So guys dont be like me or you'll wreck your bodies and never make the distance. You should be more like those peroxided yellow haired folk that go to the gym constantly, thats the only way you'll understand your body and be able to achieve your goals.

'I thought every time I went sailing it was a competition to be last one out or greatest distance'

No Kazz, this is the way you develop an understanding of your sailing abbilities, physical and mental boundaries. As well as developing your stamina and muscle groups associted with the sport you are targeting.

I'm off my soap box now. I just get sick of gym junkies thinking they know best!

Maybe they do!

More like advice from Physio's, Podiatrists and Sports Physicians, and studying my Fitness Leaders courseand old age, you young wipper snappers can get away with it.

Oh! I didnt realise that Physio's, Podiatrists and Sports Physicians, and your Fitness Leaders course were all using my approach to sailing as a case study.

So according to all these experts my approach is obviously 'a good way to wreck your body'. I should listen to the experts because they are clearly fully aware of my physical capabilities as you are giving their advice in response to my approach to sailing.

From now on, now that Im aware the experts are concerned for my welfare I will refrain from spending any more than 1 hour sailing so I dont wreck my body. How dare I put my body to all this harm without realising, Im glad the experts have been watching.

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Kazza said...

buzzy said...

I thought every time I went sailing it was a competition to be last one out or greatest distance

That's a good way to wreck your body. Speaking from a sports science point of view, you need to listen to your body, especially as you get older. The body tells you when it's had enough for the day. I got so many injuries from sailing Geraldton in 2007, the achillies went, the lats went because of that wavesailing competition where you got points for staying out as long as you could. Good way to get shin splints too (Steve). You need to slowly build the body up for go for distance. Get into the weights at the gym, build your aerobic capacity up and lot's and lot's of stretching.
Specific exercises for the muscles you use for windsurfing is a must too & slowly building up sailing hours. I'll be the GPS personal trainer [}:)][}:)] so winter is a good time to start triaining

Sorry Kazza, but I have to disagree. I've been sailing for 28 years and I've never done any exercise at all (except sailing) and often spend many hours out on the water and feel absolutely fine when I come in. I consider myself pretty lazy too, I really don't like walking if there's any way I can drive (point in case the toilets at Montague - took longer to drive to them than to walk, but I still drove)!

Would prior training have helped me when I sailed 500km? Don't think so? I felt pretty good after sailing that day, no cramps at all while out sailing or at any time afterward. I'd hardly even been out in the weeks prior. My very next sailing session was 220km, again, no cramps, felt fine, etc. If you are struggling while sailing then you will get tired, if you are cruising, you can sail all day! Doesn't matter what preparation or fitness state.

I recall where they did a huge study of army recruits where they got half of them (1000's) to undertake 30 minutes of stretching before and after physical training each day over a period of about 2 weeks and the other half did no stretching. Surprisingly (or perhaps not), there were not only more injuries in the group that did the stretching, but significantly more - stretching is bad! As a result, I refuse to ever undertake any form of preparation (especially stretching) before sailing.

Oh well I'd better tell all Olympic athletes just to turn up to their event and not bother training. And don't bother training your horses up for enduro events just take them in it.
I was talking in terms if you want to get the best out of yourself, and if you can't get out and sail much (like over winter) it's best to strengthen ligments, tendons & muscles to prepare for a one off big distance sail.
Sorry but it's what I believe, each to their own.

Kazza, I'm only referring to sailing, not other sports. For the type of sailing most of us do, I don't think we need to be particularly fit and I don't think we should be too concerend about over-doing it during a good windy session. You've suggested a whole lot of things we should all do to build up for a good sailing session and I'm just saying I don't think it's all necessary. For you to do 150 km you just need to set the goal, pick the day and do it. It would only take about four and a half hours and you'd have the woman's distance sailing record.