Still no updates in the specs.
FWIW i found the specs of the One 115 are identical to the generation before too, so looking at the "big boys boards", relevant for my size and weight 1,92 cm /93 kg many boards seem to be unchanged to the generation before:
Thruster 99 = C3 98 (even the thickness printed on the boards rails is identical)
Quad 114
One 115 (shorter than the new One 105)
Owning the C3 98 and having owned the One 115 i think both boards are brilliant, so no need for changes from my side, but i'm just a mediocre weekend rider, and the Goya guys always suprised us with developing boards that are even better than their predecessors that are already considered "very good/brilliant".

Also the specs of the new Eclipse sails are exactly the same like the specs of the Banzais, what is hard to believe too, seems still like copy/paste.

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AlexF said..
Still no updates in the specs.
FWIW i found the specs of the One 115 are identical to the generation before too, so looking at the "big boys boards", relevant for my size and weight 1,92 cm /93 kg many boards seem to be unchanged to the generation before:
Thruster 99 = C3 98 (even the thickness printed on the boards rails is identical)
Quad 114
One 115 (shorter than the new One 105)
Owning the C3 98 and having owned the One 115 i think both boards are brilliant, so no need for changes from my side, but i'm just a mediocre weekend rider, and the Goya guys always suprised us with developing boards that are even better than their predecessors that are already considered "very good/brilliant".

Also the specs of the new Eclipse sails are exactly the same like the specs of the Banzais, what is hard to believe too, seems still like copy/paste.

How many of the big +100 liter boards do they sell ,probably not a lot of reason to make major changes.80-85 is the go to size for most,they Quattro Goya are on a two year production run maybe they should go three.Not a lot of ground breaking design changes in wave boards the last few years unless someone comes up with a new way to shave off weight I say spread it out and try to keep the cost down.

Alex I bought the Quatro Power 115 just a few months ago before my fall trip to Baja. I know most folks think ugghhh its a Freewave so it will turn like a pig but I was pleasantly surprised. It has a ton of nose rocker so it fits in the wave nicely and despite the high overall width 67cm the tail narrows down quickly. It also has the same bottom shape as the Pyramid single concave under the mast track/straps going to double concave with a bit of V out the tail. All of this adds up to a board that turns quite well and it feels like a wave board. Definitely an underrated board and probably the right choice for all of us older and heavier windsurfers.

Agree on the freewave option I'm also in the 95kg range and have a 105 Fanatic Freewave STB as my biggest board. I've had it for a couple of years but not many opportunities to use it in nice waves until a recent session in NW Ireland where I was really impressed by how nice it was to throw around on the wave.

I had a Fanatic Tri 99 for a while but got rid of it earlier this year as I just wasn't using it often enough, could only really see myself wanting a 100+ltr Quad / Tri if I was going to be sailing in light wind / faster wave conditions reasonably regularly.

Clip below is the 105 with a 5.8

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Agree on the freewave option I'm also in the 95kg range and have a 105 Fanatic Freewave STB as my biggest board. I've had it for a couple of years but not many opportunities to use it in nice waves until a recent session in NW Ireland where I was really impressed by how nice it was to throw around on the wave.

I had a Fanatic Tri 99 for a while but got rid of it earlier this year as I just wasn't using it often enough, could only really see myself wanting a 100+ltr Quad / Tri if I was going to be sailing in light wind / faster wave conditions reasonably regularly.

Clip below is the 105 with a 5.8

Nice video !

The new Nitro 3 looks good at 106 L for the larger wave sailor !!

Under 60cm wide for a 106L! I wonder how corky that feels and whether it can actually manage a 6.3 effectively (presumably the Fringe).

Really want to see a test review on the 105 Nitro. I don't want to buy unseen and not tested.

Maybe a 5.3/5.5 for the small ish sail and big board light wind combo !. 6.3 is a huge wave sail !

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Under 60cm wide for a 106L! I wonder how corky that feels and whether it can actually manage a 6.3 effectively (presumably the Fringe).

Fanatic Stubby was the best board ever and they were super narrow .. but longer 'parallel' rails.

The width needs to be considered along with the outline of the board. They look to hold their width through the nose and tail and not super-pinny boards.

After having used several Goya One Freewave boards (and a 2016 Quad 116) as my lightwind waveboard i pulled the trigger and ordered a Nitro 106.
My recent board is the 2020 One 105 which is a "stubby in disguise" imo, with the volume and width in the tail, so it feels much more buoyant than the "volume forward" shapes i had before in the 115 litre size.
I even had the 2020 One 115, but this board felt huge and had so much planing power that i changed it for my One 105.
The One 105 feels nice on a wave, but sometimes it also feels a little "too long" subjectively, which will be addressed by the Nitro 106., which is 13 cm shorter.
But as said above the Nitro 106 is 2,5 cm narrower than the One 105 and i'm curious how this will feel stabilitywise when slogging.
OTOH, from my SUPs i know how stable the stubby shapes are despite being narrower and shorter than classic shapes, so im not too afraid.

I was kind of hoping they'd actually produce that twin fin/foil summer board proto they dropped on Instagram a while back.

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I was kind of hoping they'd actually produce that twin fin/foil summer board proto they dropped on Instagram a while back.

I guess this board was too special to gain a significant number of buyers.
Most of the wave oriented sailors I know switched to winging for lighter, flatter und mushier days (me too), so it seems there's not much interest in wave windfoiling anymore.
For this reason I wonder how long the Airbolt will survive in their line-up.

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Grantmac said..
I was kind of hoping they'd actually produce that twin fin/foil summer board proto they dropped on Instagram a while back.

I guess this board was too special to gain a significant number of buyers.
Most of the wave oriented sailors I know switched to winging for lighter, flatter und mushier days (me too), so it seems there's not much interest in wave windfoiling anymore.
For this reason I wonder how long the Airbolt will survive in their line-up.

The prototype was significantly less volume then I need for real float and ride but I like the concept. A fish twin seems to work very well in crap waves.

Has anyone tested the Goya Nitro 3 yet. I currently have the Fanatic Freewave STB 95 (stubby, 2017/18) and need to replace it (starts falling apart after many good years). The new Fanatic Freewave seems less wave oriented and the Goya Nitro 3 seems like a good option. At the same time I did not like the Quatro Super Mini as much as the Fanatic Freewave STB when comparing them in 2018. the Super Mini felt less loose than the Fanatic STB especially with higher volume.
Any thoughts/early reviews of the Nitro 3 (96 or 106l) yet? Cheers.

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I was kind of hoping they'd actually produce that twin fin/foil summer board proto they dropped on Instagram a while back.

AHD will be soon releasing just that : a compact wide and short twin fin with foil option summer board in the 95L range. It's the Sealion strapped

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Al1 said..

Grantmac said..
I was kind of hoping they'd actually produce that twin fin/foil summer board proto they dropped on Instagram a while back.

AHD will be soon releasing just that : a compact wide and short twin fin with foil option summer board in the 95L range. It's the Sealion strapped

Needs to be +110L for me to be interested. 95L is smaller than my waveboard.

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AlexF said..
Still no updates in the specs.
FWIW i found the specs of the One 115 are identical to the generation before too, so looking at the "big boys boards", relevant for my size and weight 1,92 cm /93 kg many boards seem to be unchanged to the generation before:
Thruster 99 = C3 98 (even the thickness printed on the boards rails is identical)
Quad 114
One 115 (shorter than the new One 105)
Owning the C3 98 and having owned the One 115 i think both boards are brilliant, so no need for changes from my side, but i'm just a mediocre weekend rider, and the Goya guys always suprised us with developing boards that are even better than their predecessors that are already considered "very good/brilliant".

Also the specs of the new Eclipse sails are exactly the same like the specs of the Banzais, what is hard to believe too, seems still like copy/paste.

Francicso just confirmed that the shapes of the Thruster 99, Quad 114 and One 115 remain unchanged for the 2022 lineup.

Anybody got the new boards already?
I didn't even get a estimated delivery date for my preordered Nitro 106 yet.
But could test ride a custom proto Nitro 100 (not the final shape) of a friend on strong winds on our home lake. Amazing feeling, easy planing and so nice turning, much better and more agile than my One 105 (21).

I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

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Jens said..
I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

What's your weight?
I struggle changing from my Thruster 98 (unchanged shape for '22 Thruster 99) to a Quad 94, wheighing 93 kg it may be a little bit small and narrow for an allround waveboard for different conditions.
Nitro 106 will be my lightwind/onshore board.

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I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

Hey Jens, nice review. Sounds like a great board,. I am strongly considering to get the 2022 C4 104 L. So I am curious about the answer to your question regarding the rocker. Please let us know if they answer you!

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Jens said..
I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

Have you sailed the 20/21 94 L? I really like that board, so interested to know what the difference is to the 2022 board.

Hi all. I'm about 94-96 kg and find that the 94 has plenty of buoyancy, similar to the 2015 model it replaced. When you sail in holey wind it handles the lulls well and then goes like a rocket when the gusts hit. In that respect it's much less technical to sail than my 2016 95l Pyramid which tends to fall off a cliff under those conditions.

Francisco reckons that the new 104 actually has more rocker than my 2015 model. On the strength of that I went and bought one yesterday. I've only had it out for 30 mins last night, sailing till past sunset in light wind and crappy waves. It definitely planes faster than the old one and feels more lively too. You do notice the narrower width which makes windless gybes a bit wobblier. Time will tell how the boards compare in super light wind and in proper waves. I'll keep you posted. Cheers Jens

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Jens said..
I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

Have you sailed the 20/21 94 L? I really like that board, so interested to know what the difference is to the 2022 board.

Hi Phil. I haven't sailed the previous one, but have spent some time staring at Dick's 89l 20/21 next to the new version. They look pretty similar, but I believe that the new one is a little wider and has subtle differences front and back. Dick raves about his 89, and I'm sure that the 94 is awesome too. Interestingly, the only change to the new 104 is the colour and use of slot boxes.

I'm looking forward to playing around with fin position in the future when I've familiarized myself with the boards. In onshore conditions Francisco recommends trying fins forward to maximize looseness, while in powerful cross off waves he suggests holding the bottom turn side back for more drive. How all that plays out between the larger centre fins and smaller side bites will be fun to explore.

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philn said..

Jens said..
I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

Have you sailed the 20/21 94 L? I really like that board, so interested to know what the difference is to the 2022 board.

Hi Phil. I haven't sailed the previous one, but have spent some time staring at Dick's 89l 20/21 next to the new version. They look pretty similar, but I believe that the new one is a little wider and has subtle differences front and back. Dick raves about his 89, and I'm sure that the 94 is awesome too. Interestingly, the only change to the new 104 is the colour and use of slot boxes.

I'm looking forward to playing around with fin position in the future when I've familiarized myself with the boards. In onshore conditions Francisco recommends trying fins forward to maximize looseness, while in powerful cross off waves he suggests holding the bottom turn side back for more drive. How all that plays out between the larger centre fins and smaller side bites will be fun to explore.

Hey Jens did you compare the two 104's on next to each other? According to the tech specs, they have quiete different meseaures!
20/21 233.9/63.1/41.5 and the 22 is 230,8/61.6/40,3 ! (Or did you mean the 94?). And do you know if the two 104's 21 and 22 have the same rocker?

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Taladrar said..

Jens said..

philn said..

Jens said..
I've been having a blast on the 94 Custom 4 for the last few weeks in really wide range of conditions. An awesome board, highly recommended. I've left a review on the Goya feedback forum. Cheers Jens

Have you sailed the 20/21 94 L? I really like that board, so interested to know what the difference is to the 2022 board.

Hi Phil. I haven't sailed the previous one, but have spent some time staring at Dick's 89l 20/21 next to the new version. They look pretty similar, but I believe that the new one is a little wider and has subtle differences front and back. Dick raves about his 89, and I'm sure that the 94 is awesome too. Interestingly, the only change to the new 104 is the colour and use of slot boxes.

I'm looking forward to playing around with fin position in the future when I've familiarized myself with the boards. In onshore conditions Francisco recommends trying fins forward to maximize looseness, while in powerful cross off waves he suggests holding the bottom turn side back for more drive. How all that plays out between the larger centre fins and smaller side bites will be fun to explore.

Hey Jens did you compare the two 104's on next to each other? According to the tech specs, they have quiete different meseaures!
20/21 233.9/63.1/41.5 and the 22 is 230,8/61.6/40,3 ! (Or did you mean the 94?). And do you know if the two 104's 21 and 22 have the same rocker?

No. I've never seen a 104 from 20/21. I was just quoting Francisco. Those numbers you show suggest that the new one is completely different, don't they?

I rented the 20/21 C4 104 L in Maui to try it out back to back with the 20/21 C4 94L. I found them very different boards, with the 104 L being a lot stiffer. I only used the 104 for half a session so maybe more time on it would have been illuminating, but I was very happy to jump back on the 94 L for the rest of the session.

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philn said..
I rented the 20/21 C4 104 L in Maui to try it out back to back with the 20/21 C4 94L. I found them very different boards, with the 104 L being a lot stiffer. I only used the 104 for half a session so maybe more time on it would have been illuminating, but I was very happy to jump back on the 94 L for the rest of the session.

Dims on 2022 104 L look much better.

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Jens said..
Hi all. I'm about 94-96 kg and find that the 94 has plenty of buoyancy, similar to the 2015 model it replaced. When you sail in holey wind it handles the lulls well and then goes like a rocket when the gusts hit. In that respect it's much less technical to sail than my 2016 95l Pyramid which tends to fall off a cliff under those conditions.

Interesting findings. I had the 2014/15 C4 94 too (then 2016 C4 96, 2018 C3 99 and now 2020 C3 98).
The 2015 94 felt floaty, if the new 22 feels comparable despite being about 0,8 cm narrower, that would be a board to consider for me.
The 1,6 cm wider tail of the 22 may well compensate the width..