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Uni project

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Created by cmrls23 > 9 months ago, 6 Dec 2012
cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:39AM
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hey guys,

I'm studying engineering at uni and trying to come up with a final year project to do.
I'm kind of keen to make a hydrofoil board (like in the link) for surfing or maybe kiting but I can't really just make it - I need a purpose or aim for it.
Anyone have any ideas??
Basically Im trying to find a way I can go surfing or kiting for uni



Cheers

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
6 Dec 2012 8:31AM
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cmrls23 said...
Anyone have any ideas??


It's your project... you do it. Just like in the real world.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
6 Dec 2012 11:35AM
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First idea is to ask this in a relevant forum. Clearly not much researching is going on here.

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 12:23PM
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I have posted it in the other forums too, just put it in this one as an after thought, in case there might be a windsurfer who has something interesting to say.

thought windsurfers were meant to be the friendly bunch...
why waste your time replying if you're going to be a dick about it? I'm not asking for you to do my project, or something thats going to revolutionize the world, just thought someone out there may have an idea on something interesting to check out.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
6 Dec 2012 12:09PM
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If you really want to do something interesting and worthwhile for your project you could no better than looking at the engineering of the Vestas Sailrocket that has just smashed the world speed sailing record. Google it and if not amazed maybe engineering isn't really your thing. By extension you maybe able to come upo with a comparative craft that uses a kite in lieu of a fixed wing.......just a thought.

There you go....a windsurfer being friendly and constructive.

qldnacra
QLD, 455 posts
6 Dec 2012 12:21PM
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PM Macroscien he is sure to give you some ideas

Carantoc
WA, 7194 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:22AM
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For ideas try this :

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/SB-Community-OEM-board/


edit : ^^^ beat me to it !!!

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:24AM
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cmrls23 said...
why waste your time replying if you're going to be a dick about it?


because I am tired of people posting on forums all over the net asking other people to brain storm ideas for them. the point of the final year project is to give you a possible kick starter into the working world without the pressures of having to work on a project that needs to produce a commercial return. Think of it as following what you feel passionate about in your chosen field. How would a forum know if you are passionate about hydro or aero dynamics?

Sailhack
VIC, 5000 posts
6 Dec 2012 2:30PM
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cmrls23 said...
thought windsurfers were meant to be the friendly bunch...


Never assume - I always thought SB surfers were cruisy & laid-back...until I paddled my SUP into the line-up!

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 2:17PM
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stehsegler said...

because I am tired of people posting on forums all over the net asking other people to brain storm ideas for them. the point of the final year project is to give you a possible kick starter into the working world without the pressures of having to work on a project that needs to produce a commercial return. Think of it as following what you feel passionate about in your chosen field. How would a forum know if you are passionate about hydro or aero dynamics?



boohoo. how hard is it to not click on the link. if you were a 4 yr old learning to read and it took you 10 minutes to read the topic I might understand you thinking I've wasted your time. when did I ask people to know what I'm passionate about? and obviously I'm semi-interested in hydrodynamics or I wouldn't have asked the question

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 2:18PM
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Sailhack said...
cmrls23 said...
thought windsurfers were meant to be the friendly bunch...


Never assume - I always thought SB surfers were cruisy & laid-back...until I paddled my SUP into the line-up!




SUP BASTARDS!! haha

Cheers for the ideas guys

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
6 Dec 2012 5:45PM
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hmmmm final year at uni, probably makes you around 21-22ish...Gen Y......

Geny Y the hell do I have to do it when someone else can do it for me [}:)]

MikeyS
VIC, 1509 posts
6 Dec 2012 6:18PM
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sick_em_rex said...
hmmmm final year at uni, probably makes you around 21-22ish...Gen Y......

Geny Y the hell do I have to do it when someone else can do it for me [}:)]


Ease up Rex. Social Engineering is a really hard course.

boardboy
QLD, 554 posts
6 Dec 2012 5:34PM
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cmrls23 said...

hey guys,

I'm studying engineering at uni and trying to come up with a final year project to do.
I'm kind of keen to make a hydrofoil board (like in the link) for surfing or maybe kiting but I can't really just make it - I need a purpose or aim for it.
Anyone have any ideas??
Basically Im trying to find a way I can go surfing or kiting for uni


Cheers


ok im in - but your gonna have to design it for windsurfing.

Aim: To create a light wind windsurf board which minimises the drag effect of large planning surfaces used in traditional light wind boards.
The board should be able to achieve sufficient lift and drive from a 7.6m2 sail in 10 knots of breeze for a 90kg rider to achieve 25+ knot board speeds in a controllable manor.

Purpose: shane can go sailing in light conditions without buying bigger gear.

My Part: I will be your test pilot and hero.

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 8:17PM
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sick_em_rex said...
hmmmm final year at uni, probably makes you around 21-22ish...Gen Y......

Geny Y the hell do I have to do it when someone else can do it for me [}:)]


well from your profile it says you're gen X, (even though from your pictures and lack of hair I wouldn't be surprised if you'd lied about your age and are actually a baby boomer) so every sentence starts with 'back in my day' or 'the youth today..'

why is it so unconceivable that a forum full of windsurfers might have more ideas as to how to improve the sport and equipment than someone who doesn't windsurf. I bet you'd be more than happy to buy or use something I designed if by some miracle it gave you a smoother or faster ride - irrelevant on whose idea it was

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:22PM
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cmrls23 said...
...why is it so unconceivable that a forum...


inconceivable

...but anyway, boardboy is on the money.

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:08PM
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shear tip said...
cmrls23 said...
...why is it so unconceivable that a forum...


inconceivable

...but anyway, boardboy is on the money.


in my defence they are right next to each other

Fez
NSW, 130 posts
6 Dec 2012 11:21PM
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It would be an idea to try a foiling windsurfer that has angled foils. Look up the foils on Hydrotere, there is merit in more development in this area. Not to challenge the speed record but for stability and control.
The existing windsurfing foils are limited..... same as a foiling moth.
Probably take more than a year of research and then trial etc.

Mark _australia
WA, 23526 posts
6 Dec 2012 9:45PM
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cmrls23 said...
sick_em_rex said...
hmmmm final year at uni, probably makes you around 21-22ish...Gen Y......

Geny Y the hell do I have to do it when someone else can do it for me [}:)]


well from your profile it says you're gen X, (even though from your pictures and lack of hair I wouldn't be surprised if you'd lied about your age and are actually a baby boomer) so every sentence starts with 'back in my day' or 'the youth today..'

why is it so unconceivable that a forum full of windsurfers might have more ideas as to how to improve the sport and equipment than someone who doesn't windsurf. I bet you'd be more than happy to buy or use something I designed if by some miracle it gave you a smoother or faster ride - irrelevant on whose idea it was


I agree - Gen"Y the hell do I have to do it myself"

Seriously you are a 3rd year uni student and you have to come here for ideas.???
OK you want to do a project about foils and combine your love of kiting with an engineering concept.

Step 1: Google "problems with hydrofoils" or "hydrofoil windsurfing" or "hydrofoil stability at low speeds" or whatfknever.

Step2: half an hour of reading the above ^^^ results will identify soem kind of issue or limitation.

Step 3: Choose one issue/limitation, then think of a way to solve or mitigate said issue.

Step 4: invention, testing, scientific method, blah blah.

There u go, project.

The point of those who are critical of your post is that Steps 1-4 are pretty fkn obvious, but young crew seem to default to "post on forum" to start with.
Then young fellas get defensive about criticism here. Research is NOT the same as "ask others for ideas"

NotWal
QLD, 7435 posts
7 Dec 2012 12:04AM
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.... Research is NOT the same as "ask others for ideas"


What a bunch of curmudgeons. It's always a good idea to canvas ideas.

stehsegler
WA, 3557 posts
6 Dec 2012 10:28PM
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NotWal said...
What a bunch of curmudgeons. It's always a good idea to canvas ideas.


ok... so going back to the original question: "Basically Im trying to find a way I can go surfing or kiting for uni"

here is an idea: change your field and studied sports.

MikeyS
VIC, 1509 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:17AM
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Go to Google patents and search for hydrofoil surfboard. Something like this. patents.google.com/patent/US7144285 Look at each of the "citations" and "referenced by" documents.

Then don't call me for a job when you've graduated.

sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:51AM
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cmrls23 said...
sick_em_rex said...
hmmmm final year at uni, probably makes you around 21-22ish...Gen Y......

Geny Y the hell do I have to do it when someone else can do it for me [}:)]


well from your profile it says you're gen X, (even though from your pictures and lack of hair I wouldn't be surprised if you'd lied about your age and are actually a baby boomer) so every sentence starts with 'back in my day' or 'the youth today..'

why is it so unconceivable that a forum full of windsurfers might have more ideas as to how to improve the sport and equipment than someone who doesn't windsurf. I bet you'd be more than happy to buy or use something I designed if by some miracle it gave you a smoother or faster ride - irrelevant on whose idea it was


ah what a funny guy you are. I have no need to lie about my age and for the record, I have hair...I just clipper it short But then again, 'the youth of today' don't like short hair.....they all wanna be just like the Bieber
How about coming up with a process that will allow you to manufacture a board that will be cheap enough (but still have a performance edge) to revolutionise windsurfing and make it a more affordable sport like it was back in the 80's? Get young people OFF Facebook, OFF PS3's etc and outside doing things that don't involve staring at a small screen for hours on end. 'Back in my day' we didn't have such fancy technology, we just had to entertain ourselves with a can and a stick!

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:27AM
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Mark _australia said...
Seriously you are a 3rd year uni student and you have to come here for ideas.???


How the **** do you think the best products get made - market research. you people are the target demographic. Who better to tell me about what works and doesn't, and what could do with improvement than a group of people who spend their time windsurfing - when they aren't being grumpy old pricks on a forum.

You seem to have this idea that I have put up this post and gone 'well thats my project done.' Obviously I am doing other research, but I also thought this place could be of some use.

Carantoc
WA, 7194 posts
7 Dec 2012 8:15AM
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You are at University and you

cmrls23 said...

...... also thought this place could be of some use.



I think you just failed life, as well as university.

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:51AM
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sick_em_rex said...
we just had to entertain ourselves with a can and a stick!


you grew up in the 70s and all you had was a can and a stick?

I'll admit the hair comment may have been a tad overboard, but then again so was beiber

cmrls23
SA, 41 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:53AM
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Carantoc said...
You are at University and you

cmrls23 said...

...... also thought this place could be of some use.



I think you just failed life, as well as university.


lesson learnt

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
7 Dec 2012 8:41AM
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Noted your from SA (How is Curt Tippit)
Got a story

Back in the olden days 1988 -1990s a uni student did this project.
Cut loose surfboards Rod, Wessel, Shane Oc made a windsurfboard, with all the specifications the student had engineered ,which obviously included all the mounting points for the hydrofoils, which he designed and had made up.
I remember a fair bit of buzz surrounded the project at the time.

I did see the foils which were very expensive relative to a uni students budget etc etc spectacular to.

No one had even thought of such a thing before this

As i can remember one of the early test day was at Goowla lakes(shallow water) you know down the river mouth way .Things briefly went to plan before one of the hydrofoils struck the bottom and was lost in the muddy water .

Project foiled


barri
SA, 317 posts
7 Dec 2012 11:19AM
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Lighten up people! I am studying engineering as well and most people just get given the project. The main aim is NOT to think of one.

And a way bigger crime than using a forum for ideas (if it is one) is using a forum to b*&ch and moan.

powersloshin
NSW, 1844 posts
7 Dec 2012 12:05PM
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I find that before criticizing a whole generation we should think of what we were doing at their age: were we all so responsible, hard working, organized as we expect them to be now?

Windxtasy
WA, 4017 posts
7 Dec 2012 10:02AM
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A short while ago I was at at Windsurfing WA dinner where there were a lot of young male freestylers. Most were single so they had invited members of the "Kitechicks" to come and join them at the dinner. The Kitechicks replied that windsurfers were so rude to them at the beach they did not want to come.
Is that the reputation you want as windsurfers?

Now this young fella has asked an innocent question on this forum and as far as I can see has had only one helpful response. Now he may be guilty of being part of the younger generation (which is always perceived as being lazy and the downfall of the world as we know it) but he at least deserves some respect and politeness. All he has learnt is that windsurfers are an embittered bunch of unhelpful B's. No wonder most of the youngsters are taking up kiting!

How about helping to improve the image of windsurfing by being polite to newcomers on the forum. Treat him as you would your own son if he was asking for ideas. Then he might be happy to spend hours designing something which may revolutionise the sport we love.



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