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Nubie > 9 months ago, 15 Apr 2020

Nubie

70 posts

15 Apr 2020 4:11pm

If I unhook when planning in footstraps and move sail forward while keep my body weght at same longitudinal position, will board bear off?
Did someone try do this?

Nubie

70 posts

15 Apr 2020 4:45pm

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Imax1 said..
Yes

did you try it?

Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

15 Apr 2020 8:22pm

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Nubie said..

Imax1 said..
Yes

did you try it?

I use this technique when I'm totally overpowered and knackered going deep downwind getting back to shore in shallow water waiting for the fin to hit the sand . I've done this a few times lately.

forceten

1312 posts

15 Apr 2020 7:51pm

You need to hook up with
a USA 46
b. A 6 yo for art class

Nubie

70 posts

15 Apr 2020 8:28pm

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Imax1 said..

Nubie said..

Imax1 said..
Yes

did you try it?

I use this technique when I'm totally overpowered and knackered going deep downwind getting back to shore in shallow water waiting for the fin to hit the sand . I've done this a few times lately.

I sail like this all the time!
Every bigger gust that coming I unhook,scare of catapult! :)

Sea Lotus

320 posts

15 Apr 2020 10:12pm

Your problem is, you have very long legs, i would olso be afraid to hook in if i had to wear my harness on my neck.

Sparky

1122 posts

15 Apr 2020 10:24pm

But what were you planning?

hoop

1979 posts

15 Apr 2020 10:36pm

Unfortunately this move is very difficult for people that don't have torso's .

But seriously, you can try pulling the mast back towards your body by pulling with front arm to depower while being hooked in, thats if you are afraid to stand tall (go over the board a little) to let the gust by.

Sparky

1122 posts

15 Apr 2020 11:10pm

Not dissimilar to elements of a lay down jibe? Which tends to turn a board around?

JonnyWindsurf

48 posts

15 Apr 2020 11:51pm

Isn't this how you initiate a catapult?

LeeD

3939 posts

16 Apr 2020 1:08am

Some sailors learn the forward loop before they can jibe.

Manuel7

1331 posts

16 Apr 2020 4:07am

Yes, and you need to open your sail, you may slow down.

gorgesailor

632 posts

16 Apr 2020 4:08am

Nubie/fpw9082, Why did you change your user name?

Basher

590 posts

16 Apr 2020 7:29am

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Nubie said..
If I unhook when planning in footstraps and move sail forward while keep my body weght at same longitudinal position, will board bear off?
Did someone try do this?

It will bear away - but why would you do that?
If you over do it the nose of the board will go down and the rig will overload, so you will probably catapult around the front.

If you want to steer in a straight line when planing we do this with very subtle rig movements and also by foot steering the board.
If you unhook and put the rig forward whilst leaning forwards onto the inner rail then you start a carve gybe.

Note that planing is spelt with one 'n' as it's short for 'aquaplaning'.

decrepit

12802 posts

16 Apr 2020 8:20am

Well this is the way you do a "flarve" gybe, flair the sail and carve the board, gets you round real quick. I only do it when lightly powered and want a very tight gybe. When well powered you want to depower the sail not put it into the wind.

sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

16 Apr 2020 3:06pm

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hoop said..
Unfortunately this move is very difficult for people that don't have torso's .

Nubie

70 posts

16 Apr 2020 11:20pm

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Basher said..

Nubie said..
If I unhook when planning in footstraps and move sail forward while keep my body weght at same longitudinal position, will board bear off?
Did someone try do this?

nice explanation..

this is my stance at 1:40 :)
as usual terminator win again!

Ben1973

1008 posts

17 Apr 2020 9:07am

So much better than sailing down a flat purpose built canal.

sboardcrazy

NSW

8292 posts

17 Apr 2020 12:24pm

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Nubie said..

Basher said..

Nubie said..
If I unhook when planning in footstraps and move sail forward while keep my body weght at same longitudinal position, will board bear off?
Did someone try do this?

nice explanation..

this is my stance at 1:40 :)
as usual terminator win again!

Radical conditions.

Now I know why I haven't broken 40kts..

I'm not prepared to take the carnage..

mathew

QLD

2142 posts

17 Apr 2020 1:16pm

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LeeD said..
Some sailors learn the forward loop before they can jibe.

This is complete BS. The skill / expertise for looping, is higher than for gybing. And the conditions needed for looping, require significantly more skill then is for gybing.

Why is it that you make statements that are false, more then 95% of the time ?

Ben1973

1008 posts

18 Apr 2020 8:06am

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sboardcrazy said..

Nubie said..

Basher said..

Nubie said..
If I unhook when planning in footstraps and move sail forward while keep my body weght at same longitudinal position, will board bear off?
Did someone try do this?

nice explanation..

this is my stance at 1:40 :)
as usual terminator win again!

Radical conditions.

Now I know why I haven't broken 40kts..

I'm not prepared to take the carnage..

Sailing on my own in open ocean 99% of the time keeps me away from 40knots. Not to mention the bill for broken kit and skill.

LeeD

3939 posts

18 Apr 2020 10:03am

Mathew, I know a sailor who has sailed Backyards and the channel outside of Diamond head who has never tried to uphaul ever.
And one of them regularly windsurfe from Kahala to view Molokai 20 miles away, and he cannot jibe at all, but jumpjibes fine.
- You just haven't seen that many sailors in your life.
Another guy I know did a quad flip duckie before he ever made a regular jibe. He started ducking only within 3 days of his 1st time ever on a windsurf board. Needless to say, he progressed to double ducks, then triples by his second year.

LeeD

3939 posts

18 Apr 2020 10:07am

Plenty of young guns loop before age 13, some never up hauling ever.
I cannot state a specific case, but it certainly isn't hard to imagine.
Everyone who loops say it's much easier than jibing....but takes more courage.
Jibing takes longer than one year. Most guys who learn to loop make several within days.

Ian K

4164 posts

18 Apr 2020 10:25am

Yes but flat water levels the playing field somewhat. Gybes are easy, looping is harder. ( Not that I've ever intentionally looped a sailboard. As a young gun I looped on a trampoline, got it all out of my system by the time I became an ageing windsurfer.)

www.windsurf.co.uk/peter-hart-operation-rotation/

mathew

QLD

2142 posts

18 Apr 2020 1:04pm

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LeeD said..
Another guy I know did a quad flip duckie before he ever made a regular jibe. He started ducking only within 3 days of his 1st time ever on a windsurf board. Needless to say, he progressed to double ducks, then triples by his second year.

No one has ever done a "quad flip duckie" ... there are about 3 or so people whom have ever even attempted a triple rotation.... Koster, Campello, Guiloul, etc.

LeeD

3939 posts

18 Apr 2020 11:24am

Joey Valera made his 1st triple at Half Moon Bay on his first windsurf board, within 9 months of his very first day. 9'6" Seatrend poly, maybe 90 liters....very thin tail.
Rewarded himself with the new then Sunset.
His quad was at Lake Lopez maybe 6 months later.
He could only duckjibe at Jalama.

mr love

VIC

2415 posts

18 Apr 2020 1:42pm

LeeD...What drugs are you taking....I want some!!

LeeD

3939 posts

18 Apr 2020 11:53am

Just because YOU didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

tbwonder

NSW

735 posts

18 Apr 2020 2:42pm

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LeeD said..
Just because YOU didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Just because YOU say it, doesn't mean it did happen.

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