And we're on!

Here is the link to the first video, more to come.

They aren't very colourful.

How will they hold up on the Aussie summer sun when you come in for a break ?
Will your 5.7 become a 3.7 when you go to go back out ?

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ggf said..
How will they hold up on the Aussie summer sun when you come in for a break ?
Will your 5.7 become a 3.7 when you go to go back out ?

Ha! imagine that..
Given the fact the sails are a composite of Dyneema and Aramid, will probably withstand UV and the rough Aus weather way better than a standard mylar sail.

All the info are on the site.

northwindsurfing.com/

In the stockists, I gather you mean Windsurfing Perth?

I'd be keen to see more tech / stats videos as the higher and faster claim is of course rather common. Did look good when I saw one, nice and light etc, $1500 is not tooooooo bad if its exceptionally different.

What bend curve might tempt a few people too.....

Not a lot of actual info on that video.

Dynema is aramid and aramids aren't UV resistant. They have to be used with UV resistant films.
I'll take their claims of superior durability with a grain of salt until it's been demonstrated.

Incidentally how do Severne's "membrane" sails do in that regard? Do they have a decent life?

Gaz you're half right. Aramid (Kevlar etc) is about the least UV resistant thing I can think of. I'd suggest that's why its black.

Dyneema is not aramid - it is polythylene (UHMWPE)

Both have the best tensile strength going, dyneema is just lighter.

We saw aramid fibre in sails 15yrs ago. AFAIK the only new thing here is the 3D printed (simplified, I know) method of manufacture.

My mistake. I see it is UV resistant too.

JFC, what a load of hype.
"The Future of windsurfing"
"The World's leading windsurf sail brand"

And we are only 2 seconds in

"The lightest and strongest windsurfing sails in the World"
"Pushes riders harder, higher and faster without sacrificing durability for performance".

northwindsurfing.com/pages/slalom-race
Race
Wherever you race, from the PWA to the Defi Wind to the target right in front of you.

This is a radically different race sail, not like any other sail out there today. Choose between the Slalom Race, for top-end performance, and the Free Race, a golden mix of performance and easy handling. The Race sails will be released with new masts and extensions for optimized performance, combining the best of North Windsurfing materials, design and technology.

Coming late 2022.

northwindsurfing.com/pages/slalom-foil

Foil

Superior speed, superior handling, superior results.
Building and developing a Foil sail from the ground up truly pays off. Effortless transitions with smooth and easy?rotations giving you instant power. Specific attention has been given to the conflicting needs of first lifting up to the foil while disappearing in flight. Choose between the Slalom Foil and the Free Foil, which will be released with new masts and extensions for optimized performance. Combining the best of North Windsurfing materials, design, and technology.
Coming late 2022.

Some launch this.

At least the X-Over is June 2022.

We have the Wave!

northwindsurfing.com/products/north-wave

3.3m GBP 819 to 5.8m GBP 1049. None in stock. Actually, nothing at all in stock.


Guess we will have to keep waiting to see what they are actually like and get some real world feedback from normal sailors.

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Mr Hooper said..
Not a lot of actual info on that video.

Not much more on the website either!

A question for those who have seen this technology on yachts etc
Will it roll into a bag ok?
will it be susceptible to damage more than a normal sail if something is put on top of the rolled sail?
or is it better than a Mylar and batten sail in that regard?

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MrA said..
A question for those who have seen this technology on yachts etc
Will it roll into a bag ok?
will it be susceptible to damage more than a normal sail if something is put on top of the rolled sail?
or is it better than a Mylar and batten sail in that regard?

grass needs work. frost damage?

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Sparky said..
They aren't very colourful.

Point 7 says hi

Wow so much negativity towards a reborn brand

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Mark _australia said..
Gaz you're half right. Aramid (Kevlar etc) is about the least UV resistant thing I can think of. I'd suggest that's why its black.

Dyneema is not aramid - it is polythylene (UHMWPE)

Both have the best tensile strength going, dyneema is just lighter.

We saw aramid fibre in sails 15yrs ago. AFAIK the only new thing here is the 3D printed (simplified, I know) method of manufacture.

Mark, some good knowledge in your words mate!

Dynema/Ultra PE (aka UHMWPE) has indeed a very good UV resistance, not so much does Aramid, my bad on that.

Yes the Stockist in Perth is indeed Windsurfing Perth - Kiteaddiction.

I guess you saw a 4.2 in Margaret River with Federico? Please ask him to demo it next time that sails is there for this exact purpose.

Also this page shows some good data on different materials which is bang-on what you said.

www.northsails.com/sailing/en/2019/12/fibers-fabrics-a-sailors-guide-to-finding-the-right-materials

No, I saw one elsewhere but I might be outside the target demographic by about 20kg hahahaha....... 4.2 is my once or twice a year sail.
More than happy to accept 5.0, 5.3 and 5.8 here in Gero, and I'll be sure to pass them around.

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Pretty sure I have seen a prototype sail from a different brand made out of the exact same material in the this exact colour. Makes me wonder if the colour is not by choice but that's just what the manufacturer of the cloth sells. Does anyone know if this cloth was developed by North or a third party supplier.

I'd say its all about stopping UV. Aramids are very susceptible

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stehsegler said..

ol4t said..

Pretty sure I have seen a prototype sail from a different brand made out of the exact same material in the this exact colour. Makes me wonder if the colour is not by choice but that's just what the manufacturer of the cloth sells. Does anyone know if this cloth was developed by North or a third party supplier.

It's not really a cloth as such, you don't buy it on a roll like conventional cloth, its threads that are laid directly onto the mould with a strand laying head and wetted out threads, this is then sealed once all the fibres are laid and baked to set the resins.

It's then peeled off the mould and finished with sewing machines etc.

It has the same batten ends as Pryde. I'm a little sceptical about their durability.

I'm curious to see the whole range. I heard they are going to do a power wave sail too, and a race sail.

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PhilUK said..
JFC, what a load of hype.
"The Future of windsurfing"
"The World's leading windsurf sail brand"

And we are only 2 seconds in

"The lightest and strongest windsurfing sails in the World"
"Pushes riders harder, higher and faster without sacrificing durability for performance".

northwindsurfing.com/pages/slalom-race
Race
Wherever you race, from the PWA to the Defi Wind to the target right in front of you.

This is a radically different race sail, not like any other sail out there today. Choose between the Slalom Race, for top-end performance, and the Free Race, a golden mix of performance and easy handling. The Race sails will be released with new masts and extensions for optimized performance, combining the best of North Windsurfing materials, design and technology.

Coming late 2022.

northwindsurfing.com/pages/slalom-foil

Foil

Superior speed, superior handling, superior results.
Building and developing a Foil sail from the ground up truly pays off. Effortless transitions with smooth and easy?rotations giving you instant power. Specific attention has been given to the conflicting needs of first lifting up to the foil while disappearing in flight. Choose between the Slalom Foil and the Free Foil, which will be released with new masts and extensions for optimized performance. Combining the best of North Windsurfing materials, design, and technology.
Coming late 2022.

Some launch this.

At least the X-Over is June 2022.

We have the Wave!

northwindsurfing.com/products/north-wave

3.3m GBP 819 to 5.8m GBP 1049. None in stock. Actually, nothing at all in stock.


Guess we will have to keep waiting to see what they are actually like and get some real world feedback from normal sailors.

Yes, for a hyped launch I was also expecting a bit more than details about waves sails that you cannot order. Current supply problems make it not the best times to launch new products so it might explain it.
Pieter Bijl makes very innovative products (www.proboom-windsurfing.com/) so let's see how the sails perform.If he can pull off a 8.0 & 9.0 foil racing sail with air cams that is light, durable and no big mast sleeve to fill up with water (filled up with air) I might consider them.

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Sparky said..
They aren't very colourful.

Point 7 says hi

Wow so much negativity towards a reborn brand

+1. It seems like the severne loyal oz crew consider this 3di launch as a big threat
Remember the positive hype around the launch of the too thin and brittle Chinese built membrane sails 2015/2016.
Most likely, Norths new tech will be standard in 5 years, my guess

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choco said..

Sparky said..
They aren't very colourful.

Point 7 says hi

Wow so much negativity towards a reborn brand

Exactly, hence the sarcastic/stereotypical comment... I have nothing against the new brand, it's good to see.

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bubbas said..

choco said..

Sparky said..
They aren't very colourful.

Point 7 says hi

Wow so much negativity towards a reborn brand

+1. It seems like the severne loyal oz crew consider this 3di launch as a big threat
Remember the positive hype around the launch of the too thin and brittle Chinese built membrane sails 2015/2016.
Most likely, Norths new tech will be standard in 5 years, my guess

Yes, I owned one of them, and it didn't last long. It was fun while it lasted

At least the got the colour right

If the sails are anywhere near as good as that video I would be tempted.

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Mark _australia said..

What bend curve might tempt a few people too.....

that is the key question!

based on pictures posted in another thread, i can just about bet it's *not* anything that tends to flex top.

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thedoor said..
At least the got the colour right

i call them "the *other* black sails"

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stonny said..
If they are anything like North's 3DL yacht sails then they will be pretty special.

I'll say it again.

I like to see what weight the wase sails will be, constant curve l hope.anyone got any raw pics.